Seattle Public School System's Definitions of Racism

Dissipate

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Definitions of Racism

Racism:
The systematic subordination of members of targeted racial groups who have relatively little social power in the United States (Blacks, Latino/as, Native Americans, and Asians), by the members of the agent racial group who have relatively more social power (Whites). The subordination is supported by the actions of individuals, cultural norms and values, and the institutional structures and practices of society.


Cultural Racism:
Those aspects of society that overtly and covertly attribute value and normality to white people and Whiteness, and devalue, stereotype, and label people of color as ?other?, different, less than, or render them invisible. Examples of these norms include defining white skin tones as nude or flesh colored, having a future time orientation, emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology, defining one form of English as standard, and identifying only Whites as great writers or composers.

These are only a couple of snippets.

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If I am interpreting this correctly, according to the educrats in the seattle government school system you are racist if you advocate a future time orientation or individualism.

It is safe to say that many government school systems are now nothing more than indoctrination centers for rabid collectivists pushing their agendas under the guise of 'anti-racism.' You are racist if you don't want to pay out to the 'collective.'
 

Polish3d

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HOLY SHIAAT!!!! That is severely freaking wrong. (the definition) WOW. I cannot believe they would have the gall to put that in there
 

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Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
WTF is "future time orientation?"

I believe they are referring to the idea of investing in long term goals. So, basically they are saying that it is racist to advocate investing work/time into something that doesn't pay off until years later (i.e. higher education, financial planning etc.).
 

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Either I'm missing something, that isn't real, or something is extremely wrong. Since I doubt that is the case, then I am pretty much just shocked. How is that racism?

I also didn't know that only white people are capable of being racist.
 

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I like this part

Equity "?. deals with difference and takes into consideration the fact that this society has many groups in it who have not always been given equal treatment and/or have not had a level field on which to play. These groups have been frequently made to feel inferior to those in the mainstream and some have been oppressed. To achieve equity, according to Young (1990), "Social policy should sometimes accord special treatment to groups" (p. 158). Thus, the concept of equity provides a case for unequal treatment for those who have been disadvantaged over time. It can provide compensatory kinds of treatment, offering it in the form of special programs and benefits for those who have been discriminated against and are in need of opportunity

Sweet :)
 

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Dude, you are racist if you are white. You didn't know that? You are also a racist if you are not for illegals, you are not for homosexuals and, if you are a Christian. You belive in equal opportunity? Damn. You are a racist.
 

SirStev0

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I am more confused about their original definition of racism... There are racist minorities... that definition makes it impossible...
 

Vic

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There is a reason why anyone who can afford to in Seattle does not put their child through the public schools. Seattle has one of the lowest per capita public school enrollment rates in the country, and one of the highest per capita private school enrollment rates.
 

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Originally posted by: Vic
There is a reason why anyone who can afford to in Seattle does not put their child through the public schools. Seattle has one of the lowest per capita public school enrollment rates in the country, and one of the highest per capita private school enrollment rates.

Must be heaven to you.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Vic
There is a reason why anyone who can afford to in Seattle does not put their child through the public schools. Seattle has one of the lowest per capita public school enrollment rates in the country, and one of the highest per capita private school enrollment rates.
Must be heaven to you.
:confused:

Quite the opposite. One reason why I don't live there. What good is it to pay taxes for a public school system that doesn't serve the public interest?

Nice troll though, Dave. I have come to expect no better from you.

:roll:
 

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lol...once again misinformed dave gets shot down...:laugh:

Like I said...if you researched just half the time you spend trolling here...you'd actually get some respect.
 

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Teacher

"Can anyone tell me who some of the greatest authors are?"

Johnny
"Oooo! I know!"

Teacher

"Yes, Johnny"

Johnny

"Mark Twain, Ernest Hemingway, C.S. Lewis....ummm....uh-oh I better think of a black author quickly...umm....oh dear...I'm gonna get it."

Teacher

"JOHNNY! YOU WILL REPORT TO THE PRINCIPALS OFFICE IMMEDIATLEY! I WILL NOT TOLERATE THIS RACISM!"




 

judasmachine

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schools are corporate training centers. there is no individualism in a corporation, only a misguided collectivism. you can quit but where else are you going to earn your keep?
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
schools are corporate training centers. there is no individualism in a corporation, only a misguided collectivism. you can quit but where else are you going to earn your keep?

Well you can always work for yourself or a small company...
 

judasmachine

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not in there dystopia where the world run by five companies. Northrup Grumman, Disney, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, and Fox Media.
 

UglyCasanova

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
WTF is "future time orientation?"

I believe they are referring to the idea of investing in long term goals. So, basically they are saying that it is racist to advocate investing work/time into something that doesn't pay off until years later (i.e. higher education, financial planning etc.).

....what? :confused:

What does that have to do with racism?

emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology

And how is that racist lol?
 

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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
WTF is "future time orientation?"

I believe they are referring to the idea of investing in long term goals. So, basically they are saying that it is racist to advocate investing work/time into something that doesn't pay off until years later (i.e. higher education, financial planning etc.).

....what? :confused:

What does that have to do with racism?

That's what everyone else is wondering.
 

Ronstang

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Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Originally posted by: Dissipate
Originally posted by: HombrePequeno
WTF is "future time orientation?"

I believe they are referring to the idea of investing in long term goals. So, basically they are saying that it is racist to advocate investing work/time into something that doesn't pay off until years later (i.e. higher education, financial planning etc.).

....what? :confused:

What does that have to do with racism?

That's what everyone else is wondering.

It is basically saying that since most minorities in a financially disadvantaged situation are not usually capable of planning for or seeing the impacts of choices on the future even mentioning these types of things is racist. That is what I take from it.

More dumbing down of America....more pandering to the lowest common denominator. And people wonder why this country is going down the tubes. You can't drag all your citizens down to the lowest levels so everyone "feels" good and expect the country to compete.
 

HombrePequeno

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Originally posted by: judasmachine
not in there dystopia where the world run by five companies. Northrup Grumman, Disney, Wal-Mart, Microsoft, and Fox Media.

Wait, are you saying Seattle public schools are indoctrinating our youth so that they'll bow down to corporate life? If that's the case, have you ever been to Seattle? Most people here aren't exactly pro big corporation.

If that's not what you're trying to say, maybe I should put on my tinfoil hat so that I can understand you.
 

6000SUX

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I sent an email to the author of that poorly-written garbage. I'll let you know if she replies.
 

LumbergTech

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it is a little poorly written but it mainly says that discrimination of those that arent a part o the main culture isnt acceptable..its not that complicated
 

daniel49

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I live in washington, just South of Seattle.
Believe me I am not suprised.
This mentality is a classic example of why schools can no longer teach our children to read, write, and do math.
They are far to busy being PC.
 

6000SUX

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Originally posted by: LumbergTech
it is a little poorly written but it mainly says that discrimination of those that arent a part o the main culture isnt acceptable..its not that complicated

No one said it was complicated-- just wrong, nebulous, and poorly executed.
 
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Originally posted by: Vic
There is a reason why anyone who can afford to in Seattle does not put their child through the public schools. Seattle has one of the lowest per capita public school enrollment rates in the country, and one of the highest per capita private school enrollment rates.

There are some very good public schools here, Seattle has a very motivated group of parents. Frankly I'm suprised at how many professionals send their kids to public schools in Seattle. Garfield, Franklin, Roosevelt, Nathan Hale, and Ballard are all good highschools. Cleveland and Rainer Beach have problems, but they also serve predominately poor neighborhoods. So I'd grade the highschools a "B" overall.

On the other hand, the primary and middle schools are nearly all good. Most of them are neighborhood schools. Again, the activist nature of Seatte parents comes into play.

Vic's assertion that "anyone who can afford to in Seattle does not put their child through the public schools" is a load of crap. The opposite is true, this is one of the rare cities where there are rich people who don't exclusively use private schools.

My complaints target the central adminstration, I'd like to see them all fired for financial malefeasance. Pulling this policy piece out of some rightwing bung is unworthy of debate.