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Armed right-wing protesters = patriots.

Unarmed left-wing protesters = Get Gitmo ready!

Because right-wingers love free speech.
I hate to tell you this, but Americans have a Right to bear arms and they have a Right to freely assemble. They don't have a right to burn and loot and deface private and public property. See the difference? One is legal and Constitutionally protected and the other is not.
 
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Vic

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I hate to tell you this, but Americans have a Right to bear arms and they have a Right to freely assemble. They don't have a right to burn and loot and deface private and public property. See the difference? One is legal and Constitutionally protected and the other is not.

Did I say Americans don't have those rights? No, you made that up. Just like you and Fox news and the rest of the RWNJ media are making up the burning and looting (and earlier, the alleged raping) in Seattle, even after they've been exposed as frauds photoshopping pictures and spreading lies. And why do you and your authoritarian Trumpist ilk do this, just make up defamatory bullshit about your political opposition? So you can have an excuse to try to arbitrarily deny people their Constitutional rights because you disagree with their speech. And guess what? Since we are talking about labelling American citizens as 'terrorists,' deploying the military on them on American soil, and then shipping them off to Gitmo, you should know that all of that is expressly un-Constitutional, not that you actually give a fuck.
It is typical of the "law and order" crowd to ignore that the highest law of our great land controls the manner in which the govt may enforce the laws.
 
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Did I say Americans don't have those rights? No, you made that up. Just like you and Fox news and the rest of the RWNJ media are making up the burning and looting (and earlier, the alleged raping) in Seattle, even after they've been exposed as frauds photoshopping pictures and spreading lies. And why do you and your authoritarian Trumpist ilk do this, just make up defamatory bullshit about your political opposition? So you can have an excuse to try to arbitrarily deny people their Constitutional rights because you disagree with their speech. And guess what? Since we are talking about labelling American citizens as 'terrorists,' deploying the military on them on American soil, and then shipping them off to Gitmo, you should know that all of that is expressly un-Constitutional, not that you actually give a fuck.
It is typical of the "law and order" crowd to ignore that the highest law of our great land controls the manner in which the govt may enforce the laws.
Sorry, but it's easy to see the burning, looting, destruction of property. It was on television and in the newspapers for a couple of weeks. If you say it didn't happen you would be a fucking liar. 1 or 2 photo shopped pictures out of tens of thousands doesn't change the truth. They get labeled as terrorists when they commit illegal terrorist acts. Being a terrorist has nothing to do with religion or the color of ones skin, it has to do with committing violent acts against the government and it's citizens.
 
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Sorry, but it's easy to see the burning, looting, destruction of property. It was on television and in the newspapers for a couple of weeks. If you say it didn't happen you would be a fucking liar. 1 or 2 photo shopped pictures out of tens of thousands doesn't change the truth. They get labeled as terrorists when they commit illegal terrorist acts. Being a terrorist has nothing to do with religion or the color of ones skin, it has to do with committing violent acts against the government and it's citizens.

Are we talking about Seattle this week or Minneapolis 2 weeks ago? Because you seem to have them confused.
But anyway, as 'being a terrorist' to you apparently has nothing to do with due process, courts of law, and other Constitutionally-mandated law enforcement practices, my earlier point still stands.

But it occurred to me, that Trump and the MAGAs don't really know why Trump is tanking in the polls. I think we should keep it that way.
 

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So, yeah, Fox finally got tired of doubling down on their lies and just pulled the photos.
Maybe this whole honesty thing could be like, I dunno, a regular occurance for them.

Do you think they will officially make a retraction and point to what they did, apologize?
 

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Armed right-wing protesters = patriots.

Unarmed left-wing protesters = Get Gitmo ready!

Because right-wingers love free speech.
you forgot one thing...right wingers also Love it when they are the ones being violent!
 

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Do you think they will officially make a retraction and point to what they did, apologize?
You do know that when Twitter took down that Tribute to George Floyd supposedly by Trump, they took it down because the voice was not that of trump....it was either a Trump impersonator or it was done with digital A1 technology.....the video is still on YouTube! Many people with perfect pitch have listened to that video and have commented that his voice is off.,.....so the above and this crap is what we are likely to have to deal with!!
 

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Do you think they will officially make a retraction and point to what they did, apologize?
Unlikely.
If they do, it will be buried somewhere no conservative can find it, but easily linkable if a liberal calls them out for no retraction.
 

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Are we talking about Seattle this week or Minneapolis 2 weeks ago? Because you seem to have them confused.
But anyway, as 'being a terrorist' to you apparently has nothing to do with due process, courts of law, and other Constitutionally-mandated law enforcement practices, my earlier point still stands.

But it occurred to me, that Trump and the MAGAs don't really know why Trump is tanking in the polls. I think we should keep it that way.

The amount of bleach he ingests from Fox news, he wouldn't know the difference between Seattle and Minneapolis. In his mind, what's happening in Seattle is that there are currently millions of rapes, robberies, assaults. Hell, the police chief was caught lying when she said that there were a lot of rapes they had to respond to and they were delayed because of the situation. That was an outright lie on her part.
 

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I hate to tell you this, but Americans have a Right to bear arms and they have a Right to freely assemble. They don't have a right to burn and loot and deface private and public property. See the difference? One is legal and Constitutionally protected and the other is not.
If you support the Constitution I have yet to see you condemn Trump for gassing and shooting unarmed peaceful protestors in DC exercising their 1A rights. Attacking them with the military was both illegal and unconstitutional.

Let me guess, you don't really give a shit about the Constitution
 

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Hey, remember when some 'sovereign citizens' occupied a national wildlife refuge and Obama threatened to deploy the military on the protesters and have them shipped off to Gitmo as terrorists?

Yeah, me neither.
 

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If you support the Constitution I have yet to see you condemn Trump for gassing and shooting unarmed peaceful protestors in DC exercising their 1A rights. Attacking them with the military was both illegal and unconstitutional.

Let me guess, you don't really give a shit about the Constitution

It's not that he doesn't give a shit about the Constitution, it's that he doesn't give a shit about anyone's Constitutional rights but his own. He doesn't appear to understand that there's nothing special in loving one's own rights and freedoms, because everyone loves their own rights and freedoms. Especially authoritarians. To truly believe in rights and freedoms means believing in everyone's rights and freedoms, especially those you might disagree with.
But, and here's the real problem, many people will always believe whatever fictions are necessary to support their self-constructed narrative. And when those narratives are paranoid, those fictions can be quite resilient to reality.
 
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Authoritarians are taught that obedience is the law that determines one's self worth, that society will degenerate into chaos without compliance to a moral code. Sadly, because morality IS required for the survival of a society they are easily confused by their desire to be good citizens with blind obedience to any rule of law whether it is morally proper or not. Blind obedience is just another name for a cult of sheep subjected by Stockholm Syndrome to follow any old cunning psychopath that crosses their path. Conversion by torture as children is hard to break but happens inevitably from time to time as the love of justice is innate in all of us who are not psychopathic.

The best laid schemes o' Mice an' Men, / Gang aft agley and why, because the will to do good which in innate gets confused with the evil we think is good that was inculcated into us by putdown and physical threat, a pressure we would have died from had we not broken as children.
 
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lol shit is starting to get hilarious


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Defending theft by means of saying "They needed it more than you" lol.

This CHAZ shit is gonna go FAR.

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Instead of theft, just call it "valuables reassigned" LOL.

God damn laughing at fucking grown adults that act like children is hilarious.