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Seatbelt Laws

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I'm amazed that there are people so concerned with what they believe is their right to not wear a seatbelt. What the hell is wrong with you all? End yourselves, NOW.
 
OK Tex, why is it you have no problem with shooting your mouth off about the seatbelt laws, but are conveniently mute about the helmet laws or what would even be MORE advantageous to society, prohibition on alcohol and tobacco? Spill it ALL or stifle yourself!
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
OK Tex, why is it you have no problem with shooting your mouth off about the seatbelt laws, but are conveniently mute about the helmet laws or what would even be MORE advantageous to society, prohibition on alcohol and tobacco? Spill it ALL or stifle yourself!
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There is such a thing as drinking responsibly. There is no such thing as not wearing a seatbelt or riding a motorcycle without a helmet responsibly.
 
Now, you conveniently left out the smoking issue. :roll:

Not to mention, many people ride bikes for the freedom and mobility despite the inherent danger. Making them wear helmets against their will is total BS. Might as well make bike riding illegal because of the danger. Again, what's the damn difference? Safety first, right?
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Now, you conveniently left out the smoking issue. :roll:

Not to mention, many people ride bikes for the freedom and mobility despite the inherent danger. Making them wear helmets against their will is total BS. Might as well make bike riding illegal because of the danger. Again, what's the damn difference? Safety first, right?
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I forgot smoking. Wah wah wah.
 
Ornery, I'm pretty sure your "what's the difference" argument is on that list of fallacical arguing strategies on that one website..

If you're so eager to accept the increased risk of death from not wearing a seatbelt, why are you afraid of the risk of a $100 fine?
 
Look, if you aren't smart enough to wear a seatbelt by choice, you obviously need someone legislating it for you. The same thing applies to drugs, cell phones while driving, etc. Find something better to complain about than other people bothering to try to save your life. And perhaps spending tax money on healthcare for smokers, druggies, drunk drivers, etc should be prohibited.
 
I dont like the THREAT of the new slogan:

"Clik-it or Ticket"

but I never needed the law to force me to buckle up. With all the horrible crazy-as$ drivers around here in Cali it is common fvcking sense you better have your bvtt buckled up!
 
It just to show unless you make it a law, people are going to do it their way.

In Hawaii, by law you must wear your seatbelt when riding in a vehicle. But, you don't have to wear a helmet when using a motor scooter or motorcycle.

Every week we hear of a person getting head injuries riding a motorbike, mostly fatal. People have argued for years and finally got their wish, no mandatory wearing of protective helmets, and so the end result, death.

Sometimes, legistlators have to enact laws, even when we don't think they're needed. We can't have our cake and eat it. I don't like it myself, but have to live with it. Maybe, I'm the only one.....
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
I dont like the THREAT of the new slogan:

"Clik-it or Ticket"

but I never needed the law to force me to buckle up. With all the horrible crazy-as$ drivers around here in Cali it is common fvcking sense you better have your bvtt buckled up!
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91% of the people in cali buckle up. they have the highest percentage of buckled drivers.
 
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
Look, if you aren't smart enough to wear a seatbelt by choice, you obviously need someone legislating it for you. The same thing applies to drugs, cell phones while driving, etc. Find something better to complain about than other people bothering to try to save your life. And perhaps spending tax money on healthcare for smokers, druggies, drunk drivers, etc should be prohibited.
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Why don't you find something better to do than running other people's lives? After all, how can you claim to not be a totalitarian when your solution to everything your neighbor does to annoy you is to have a law passed making him a criminal?
 
Originally posted by: KrillBee
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Only idiots don't wear seat belts. The age old argument that "I want to be thrown clear", might have stood up during the age of model t's, when a collision most likely resulted in combustion. Today, just see how getting thrown clear at 70Mph is going to leave you.
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On the highway I always buckle up. But still that doesnt matter since this thread is about the law itself, not about me.

But okay, look at it this way. Should people be required to wear seatbelts by law, when driving on city streets? Say under 40 mph? How about under 30?

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I think most of you guys missed the point of the thread. The question was not if it's a good idea to wear seatbelts, the question was if there should be a law making you do so.
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PRECISELY what my thread is about
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They didn't teach you basic physics in school? Well I won't go into the math since I guess it would go the head of an art history major. A 25 MPH crash is the same as falling from the top of a two story building (not the window of the second story if that subtlety escaped you).
 
Ornery, if it makes you happy, then YEAH, cigarettes SHOULD be made illegal. There. I said it.
But, there's noooooooooo way that anyone in congress would dare.
--too many kickbacks from tobacco
--too much tax raised
--etc.
 
Actually, the action of you not wearing a seatbelt can cause harm to other.

My father has a friend who is paralyzed from the midsection down, and it is because when he was in in his 20's, he and a bunch of friends were riding in a van, and the were in a horrible accident. He was one of the only ones in a seatbelt, and when the car fliped and rolled, every one landed on him, breaking his back. He is now paralyzed because others refused to wear their seatbelts.

It is also poor judgement to avoid wearing it, because you never know who is looking up to you, other adults, kids, your peers. If they see you doing it, then it may be deemed as "cool" and they could one day lose their life because you were busy being cool, rather than setting a good example.

You also have to remember that when you are injured or killed, you aren't the only victim, your family, friends and SO's have to deal with it as well. I don't know about you, but putting everyone I know through that kind of pain because you don't want to wrinkle your shirt, or because you want to look cool, isn't worth it.
 
Originally posted by: KingofCamelot
Originally posted by: KrillBee
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Only idiots don't wear seat belts. The age old argument that "I want to be thrown clear", might have stood up during the age of model t's, when a collision most likely resulted in combustion. Today, just see how getting thrown clear at 70Mph is going to leave you.
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On the highway I always buckle up. But still that doesnt matter since this thread is about the law itself, not about me.

But okay, look at it this way. Should people be required to wear seatbelts by law, when driving on city streets? Say under 40 mph?
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Uh, do you really want to be thrown into a windshield at 35 MPH when you have a head on collision? Seatbelts are there for a reason, they save lives. Just wear it. Think of it this way, a person flying through a windshield and exiting the vehicle could cause a larger accident (someone may have to swerve to avoid the body), or you could just tramutize someone for life because they saw a bloody pulp bounce around on the road after flying through the windshield at 40 MPH. Accidents happen, so no matter how safe of a driver you are, wear the ****** seatbelt, one day you'll be glad you did.
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I agree😀 Just wear the seat belt.

Four of my cousins and my uncle died because of not wearing seatbelts.
 
Seatbelts will help in most cases, though there are times when being thrown from the vehicle is your only hope, I've known someone that wasnt wearing there seatbelt and was saved because of it. The cabin was completely crushed and she/he would have died if in there when it happened.
 
I feel uncomfortable driving without being strapped down by a seatbelt. I am also one of those people who force others to wear their seatbelts, even if they are in the back seat.
 
Originally posted by: Abe Froman
Actually, the action of you not wearing a seatbelt can cause harm to other.

My father has a friend who is paralyzed from the midsection down, and it is because when he was in in his 20's, he and a bunch of friends were riding in a van, and the were in a horrible accident. He was one of the only ones in a seatbelt, and when the car fliped and rolled, every one landed on him, breaking his back. He is now paralyzed because others refused to wear their seatbelts.
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Tragic. This further invalidates the self-responsability argument.

This is not the same like tobacco and alcohol which, in theory, can be consumed without putting others at risk.
 
it was infused into my head to always wear a seatbelt when I started driving. It's like second nature to me now that I put on my seatbelt as soon as I get into a car.
 
Originally posted by: TimMyMac
Seatbelts will help in most cases, though there are times when being thrown from the vehicle is your only hope, I've known someone that wasnt wearing there seatbelt and was saved because of it. The cabin was completely crushed and she/he would have died if in there when it happened.
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Ok well see that is insanely rare. People use that excuse alot. But the truth is you have way better chance of dieing if you don't have your seatbelt on.
 
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Just out. Hawaii is #1, in the nation complying with the seatbelt law, at better than 95%.

Maui's compliance is 97.2%. People are tired of being ticketed.

People can argue whatever, but getting ticketed is old hat, especially when fines multiply and insurance rates are tied to the number of points you get.

When it costs dollars, you can say whatever, but don't get caught not wearing your seatbelt in Hawaii.

Its gonna cost yer.
 
Originally posted by: MastaTam
It's a proven fact that seat belts not only saves lives, but it also greatly reduces bodily harm during an accident. Quite honestly, I couldn't care less if you were to not wear your seatbelt, but if you were to not buckle up children whom you're responsible for in your car, you are putting that child at risk.
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Well put
 
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