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Seatbelt Laws

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KrillBee

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What do you guys think of the whole "click it or ticket" campaign?

Personally the slogan almost annoys me as much as the rule. I dont understand why states are beginning to feel they need to give out tickets for this behavior. By wearing your seatbelt you arent causing any possible harm to others, only to yourself. Whats next? Being fined for eating too much fast food during the week? lol. We should have freedom to decide our own health and safety.

The tickets are just getting higher and higher in price (comparable to a speeding ticket now), and now where I live, cops are allowed to pull you over even if thats the only reason 🙁
 
Well, I don't wear my seatbelt all the time (actually, I used to not but now that Ive got my new car it makes an annoying beep every few minutes telling me its off, so I put the damn thing on....)


With that said however, I think its fair to have that rule. If you think about it from a monetary standpoint. If you do not wear a seatbelt and you get in a car accident and are hurt worse than the insurance costs to pay your medicals bills could very well go up. Higher insurance costs = higher insurance rates. By not wearing a seatbelt you cause the rates to go up for everyone, not just yourself. (Theoretically).


Just like I dislike people who smoke or who blatantly disrespect their bodies and cause higher health insurance rates. Although, regulating that is MUCH more difficult than regulating seatbelt use, they are along the same lines.
 
It's a proven fact that seat belts not only saves lives, but it also greatly reduces bodily harm during an accident. Quite honestly, I couldn't care less if you were to not wear your seatbelt, but if you were to not buckle up children whom you're responsible for in your car, you are putting that child at risk.
 
You should consider wearing the belt so don't kill anyone or cause any other accidents when your dumbass goes flying out of the vehicle.
 
on one hand I'm all for the seatbelt law. it helps in case of an accident and it's generally good to have on. on the other hand i don't like it because if you're so stupid as to not wear one then, well, darwin wins.
 
Only idiots don't wear seat belts. The age old argument that "I want to be thrown clear", might have stood up during the age of model t's, when a collision most likely resulted in combustion. Today, just see how getting thrown clear at 70Mph is going to leave you.
 
Legally it shouldn't be mandatory on anyone thats old enough to drive. kids should buckle up. It should be pressure from insurance companies that should be making people buckle up, not the government. If you get into an accident and you aren't wearing a seat belt then the insurance company should have the right to recoup all fees associated with someone not wearing their seatbelt.
 
I support seat belt laws because seatbelts have been shown to save lives. Without laws, you would have parents who wouldn't bother to buckle their own kids in.

However, what I don't agree with is the nationwide click-it-or-ticket campaign. It used to be that an officer could not stop your vehicle for not wearing a seatbelt, but rather could tack the ticket onto your speeding/running red light/etc violation. The whole idea behind the campaign is being able to pull over more cars without any actual reason.

Before, if the police suspected something strange going on, but had no proof and someone was not committing a moving violation, they could not pull them over. Now, they can randomly pull over any car and say they "thought the person wasn't wearing a seatbelt". It gets them close to a vehicle so that they can make a visual inspection and even request permission to search the vehicle (of course you don't have to say yes unless they have a warrant).

This is another post 9/11 infringement of our rights. We should not be subjected to harassment randomly based on "well, I didn't think they had a seatbelt on".
 
I think most of you guys missed the point of the thread. The question was not if it's a good idea to wear seatbelts, the question was if there should be a law making you do so.
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I think most of you guys missed the point of the thread. The question was not if it's a good idea to wear seatbelts, the question was if there should be a law making you do so.
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unfortunately, most of the people reading this won't understand that.

IMO, seatbelt laws are not "right". seatbelts are good and all that stuff, but nobody should force you to wear it in your own car. if you do not own the car, you are obligated, imo, to put your seatbelt on if the owner wishes (but that does NOT mean that you are obligated to take it off if the owner wishes, as that he is then not acting within his rights to protect his property).
 
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I think most of you guys missed the point of the thread. The question was not if it's a good idea to wear seatbelts, the question was if there should be a law making you do so.
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Since there are too many thick orbs out there would not have the common sense to do so, then the answer is, yes, there should be a law making us wear seat belts.
 
I had an aunt that was killed in a low speed accident because she wasn't wearing her seatbelt. Good enough reason to me for me to buckle up.
Also the fact that my car does it automaticaly doesn't hurt either.
 
Originally posted by: cirthix
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I think most of you guys missed the point of the thread. The question was not if it's a good idea to wear seatbelts, the question was if there should be a law making you do so.
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unfortunately, most of the people reading this won't understand that.

IMO, seatbelt laws are not "right". seatbelts are good and all that stuff, but nobody should force you to wear it in your own car. if you do not own the car, you are obligated, imo, to put your seatbelt on if the owner wishes (but that does NOT mean that you are obligated to take it off if the owner wishes, as that he is then not acting within his rights to protect his property).
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Considering most people who don't wear seatbelts do not have a high level of intelligence. Coincidently, people who generally have no health insurance or "low-income" health insurance follow the previously mentioned category.

Now, when John Smith get thrown from his car, and now has a six figure ER bill instead of a couple of stitches, who do you think foots the bill? Johnny? Fvck no.

Also, there are lot of people who have weak minds. They, for whatever reason, cannot conclude that a seatbelt will save their life. Without a seatbelt law, there are a lot of dumbfvcks that would choose not to wear one.

As I said earlier though, this leads to natural selection, for which I am I fan. I think seatbelt laws might be a necessary evil. Im kind of mixed on the whole thing. Save the idiots? Or let them die? I could go either way, honestly.
 
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Only idiots don't wear seat belts. The age old argument that "I want to be thrown clear", might have stood up during the age of model t's, when a collision most likely resulted in combustion. Today, just see how getting thrown clear at 70Mph is going to leave you.
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On the highway I always buckle up. But still that doesnt matter since this thread is about the law itself, not about me.

But okay, look at it this way. Should people be required to wear seatbelts by law, when driving on city streets? Say under 40 mph? How about under 30?

Originally posted by: ThePresence
I think most of you guys missed the point of the thread. The question was not if it's a good idea to wear seatbelts, the question was if there should be a law making you do so.
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PRECISELY what my thread is about
 
Originally posted by: KrillBee
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Only idiots don't wear seat belts. The age old argument that "I want to be thrown clear", might have stood up during the age of model t's, when a collision most likely resulted in combustion. Today, just see how getting thrown clear at 70Mph is going to leave you.
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On the highway I always buckle up. But still that doesnt matter since this thread is about the law itself, not about me.

But okay, look at it this way. Should people be required to wear seatbelts by law, when driving on city streets? Say under 40 mph?
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Yes, read the farking thread why don't you.
You are just as likely to die (maybe even more so) in a low speed accident.
Upon impact your chest hits the steering wheel crushing your ribcage and possibly puncturing your lungs. Not to mention bruising the ****** out of all of your internal organs.
Yes there should be laws for wearing your seatbelt.
 
Originally posted by: KrillBee
Originally posted by: compuwiz1
Only idiots don't wear seat belts. The age old argument that "I want to be thrown clear", might have stood up during the age of model t's, when a collision most likely resulted in combustion. Today, just see how getting thrown clear at 70Mph is going to leave you.
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On the highway I always buckle up. But still that doesnt matter since this thread is about the law itself, not about me.

But okay, look at it this way. Should people be required to wear seatbelts by law, when driving on city streets? Say under 40 mph?
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Uh, do you really want to be thrown into a windshield at 35 MPH when you have a head on collision? Seatbelts are there for a reason, they save lives. Just wear it. Think of it this way, a person flying through a windshield and exiting the vehicle could cause a larger accident (someone may have to swerve to avoid the body), or you could just tramutize someone for life because they saw a bloody pulp bounce around on the road after flying through the windshield at 40 MPH. Accidents happen, so no matter how safe of a driver you are, wear the ****** seatbelt, one day you'll be glad you did.
 
The seatbelt law is Socialist. We are a Republic.
While I generally agree that wearing a seatbelt is a good idea, it's not the governments job to MAKE me. The motorcycle helmet law is the same thing. Eye protection on a motorcycle, I can see being a law. There is a very real possibility that road debris or an insect could cause you to lose control of the vehicle and cause injury to someone else. However, if you want to splatter your ability to wipe your own ass unassisted all over the highway, that SHOULD be your choice. It's a very slippery slope we're on.

What bothers me most about this thread, and the state of the nation in general, is that so many people actually feel that laws need to be enacted for this kind of thing.
It just seems to me that education is always better than legislation.
 
Originally posted by: CheapArse
Originally posted by: cirthix
Originally posted by: ThePresence
I think most of you guys missed the point of the thread. The question was not if it's a good idea to wear seatbelts, the question was if there should be a law making you do so.
Click to expand...


unfortunately, most of the people reading this won't understand that.

IMO, seatbelt laws are not "right". seatbelts are good and all that stuff, but nobody should force you to wear it in your own car. if you do not own the car, you are obligated, imo, to put your seatbelt on if the owner wishes (but that does NOT mean that you are obligated to take it off if the owner wishes, as that he is then not acting within his rights to protect his property).
Click to expand...

Considering most people who don't wear seatbelts do not have a high level of intelligence. Coincidently, people who generally have no health insurance or "low-income" health insurance follow the previously mentioned category.

Now, when John Smith get thrown from his car, and now has a six figure ER bill instead of a couple of stitches, who do you think foots the bill? Johnny? Fvck no.

Also, there are lot of people who have weak minds. They, for whatever reason, cannot conclude that a seatbelt will save their life. Without a seatbelt law, there are a lot of dumbfvcks that would choose not to wear one.

As I said earlier though, this leads to natural selection, for which I am I fan. I think seatbelt laws might be a necessary evil. Im kind of mixed on the whole thing. Save the idiots? Or let them die? I could go either way, honestly.
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I'm certainly not saying that it shouldnt be encouraged, i just dont think its the government's place to intrude.
 
Originally posted by: freakflag
The seatbelt law is Socialist. We are a Republic.
While I generally agree that wearing a seatbelt is a good idea, it's not the governments job to MAKE me. The motorcycle helmet law is the same thing. Eye protection on a motorcycle, I can see being a law. There is a very real possibility that road debris or an insect could cause you to lose control of the vehicle and cause injury to someone else. However, if you want to splatter your ability to wipe your own ass unassisted all over the highway, that SHOULD be your choice. It's a very slippery slope we're on.

What bothers me most about this thread, and the state of the nation in general, is that so many people actually feel that laws need to be enacted for this kind of thing.
It just seems to me that education is always better than legislation.
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You think spattering someone's ability to wipe their own ass unassisted all over the highway, should be their choice? Well that's all fine and dandy, until it effects someone else, but that's the way such selfish thinking works. Some of us don't want to see the gore of people who don't want to wear the seatbelts. We don't want to see your brains on the road, because you didn't want to wear your brain-bucket, while riding your cycle. I sure the hell don't want my kids to see it either. Your kind of idiocy and selfishness, is exactly why we need laws like these. Sorry to rant.. 😉

 
Originally posted by: Xyclone
Click it or tick it, man. You didn't click it, so be prepared to do the latter.
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simplicity will save people's lives, amen

complex standards like trying to kill Mormons in Illinois have made society retard itself so much we probably can't even comprehend it all like girl's enjoying diet pills every meal during the day.
 
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