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Sea Shepards ram Japanese whaling ship
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ProfJohn
Lifer
Perk, I suppose Sumguy is trolling too?
BTW he got the quote before you went and added your 'humorous riff on language' to the post.
And you proved my point about the MOD call out.
The second i reference your position as a MOD it is a call out and I must cut it out or something bad will happen.
But you can throw around your title all you want, as you did with the "forum quality manager" and nothing comes of it.
And BTW no one even brought up your status as a MOD until you injected it into the debate.If you don't want people to "troll me as a mod" then perhaps you should leave your title out of it and behave like everyone else in this thread does.
BTW he got the quote before you went and added your 'humorous riff on language' to the post.
And you proved my point about the MOD call out.
The second i reference your position as a MOD it is a call out and I must cut it out or something bad will happen.
But you can throw around your title all you want, as you did with the "forum quality manager" and nothing comes of it.
And BTW no one even brought up your status as a MOD until you injected it into the debate.If you don't want people to "troll me as a mod" then perhaps you should leave your title out of it and behave like everyone else in this thread does.
Ehh...harvest is a standard term used in agro/fishery/wildlife sciences, whether animals or plants. e.g.
http://www.azgfd.gov/w_c/elk_harvest.shtml
http://www.rockymountainnews.c...ers-down-dow-believes/
http://www.dnr.state.wi.us/org/land/wildlife/HUNT/deer/
http://www.wvu.edu/~agexten/wildlife/deer.pdf
http://mdc.mo.gov/hunt/harvest/index.php?animal=deer
http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Salmon-Harvest-Hatcheries/
http://www.habitat.adfg.state..../projsumm/adfgclam.htm
The only people who would object to the eminently neutral if not scientific term are those with a touchy-feely emotional attachment to the animal and want to hump them. I'm sure somewhere there are people who want to have an intimate personal relationship with corn on the cob, too.
Because it might involve articles that show photos of whales or something. I wouldn't want you to break down and cry, being that you're so non-emotional about this and all.
The Japanese are immoral for preferring ocean cows rather than those that live on land? So...you're vegan, eh?
Nice try. I happen to agree with the folks who see holes in the both sides' game.
Arrrrrgggggghhhhhhh, matey, your rhetoric smells like stale whale.
Edit: And, yeah, "harvest" is a convenient and oft-used euphemism. Our modern world is awash with convenient euphemisms -- "collateral damage" . . . or "medical loses", the term insurance companies use when they actually have to pay one of their client's bills.
"Harvest" is still a weasel word for hunting and killing whales. Try not to get too emotional about that all too obvious fact.
ProfJohn
Lifer
For the record:
Fin whales, like the only in the video, are considered endangered.
Ummm.... wait... I think the whale in that video is a Minke Whale which is not endangered at all.
There are between 300,000 and 600,000 Minke whales in Southern Hemisphere alone and another 100,000 in the northern.
Fin whales, like the only in the video, are considered endangered.
Ummm.... wait... I think the whale in that video is a Minke Whale which is not endangered at all.
There are between 300,000 and 600,000 Minke whales in Southern Hemisphere alone and another 100,000 in the northern.
manowar821
Diamond Member
Whalers need to DIAF. I don't understand why you mouth-breathers defend them or act offended. Fucking morons.
Ballatician
Golden Member
If they want to use the meat for food, that's one thing but from what I understand, whale meat isn't very popular at all. Seems more of a keeping the tradition alive thing.
Capt Caveman
Lifer
😕 Yet you read and responded to the thread.
It is a nearly unwatchable show for Captain Captain and his unmerry band of earnest shipboard dweebs.
Still, you kinda' have to give it to them that they're standing up and taking action for something they believe in, righting the wrong of a rogue nation blatantly using a cynical loophole to circumvent a treaty it signed in supposedly good faith.
Isn't that exactly the argument oft made here for the Second Amendment, to preserve the tools for citizens to bring even their own government to heel if it acts either immorally or illegally?
Just sayin'. ;shrug:
Sumguy
Golden Member
Meh, I watch it for its humorous aspects (of which there are many).
Like how they spent an episode or two shitting themselves over the LRAD, and how much they dramatized it. "OH NO! Loud noises!" Turns out it was just an annoyance. I especially liked how they had to resort to flinging the bottles of the rancid smelling oil from, basically, a dinghy due to some new laws. Knowing how tall the ships probably are, thats a fail.
Japan initially filed formal reservations to the ICW moratorium, which as a matter of international law, would have excluded it from the moratorium just as Norway is. Japan withdrew its reservation only under fierce political pressure and threats by the United States and other countries to deny Japan access to important fishing territories.
I will note that the stated purpose of the ICW was to "provide for the proper conservation of whale stocks and thus make possible the orderly development of the whaling industry". IOW, its an industry organization whose purpose was to study and regulate the commercial harvesting of whales with the ultimate goal being sustainability, not out-right bans. However, it is indisputable that anti-whaling countries whose populations did not prefer whale products came to dominate control of the ICW and turned it into an anti-whaling advocacy group.
It would be like creating a commission to regulate the salmon industry for sustainability then stacking it with PETA nutwhacks and vegans.
"Oh, salmon are just so beautiful and majestic! God I want to hump one!" :roll:
Ruptga
Lifer
I'm not saying anything for or against the whalers or the eco extremists (in fact I intentionally used the meanest label I could think of for both of them 😛); what I'm saying is that this is over-dramatized and is not worthy of all the attention and hernias. Not only that, this whole drama is old news to everyone and it seems pointless to go over it all again.
I mean jeeze people, is this what P&N is like?
I mean jeeze people, is this what P&N is like?
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