Scumbag ISP's Filtering VoIP providers

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
I guess I'm used to only using my cell phone as I don't have a landline or VOIP. I live by myself. Guess VOIP is not something I would need or even see as a need. I'll stick to my cell phone only plan.

most people get voip to save on long distance bills. believe it or not some people can spend hundreds a month on long distance.

as far as outage. in the last 5 years my phone service has been out longer than my DSL has.

 

[Shame]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
OMG!!! WHAT IF FLYING PIGS FLEW OUT OF THE BURGLAR'S BUTT WHILE CUTTING YOUR PHONE LINE AND STEALING THE SIM CARD FROM YOUR CELL PHONE?!?!?!?!

Outragous! I don't think a burglar would steal a sim card. 🙂

 

[So]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
I guess I'm used to only using my cell phone as I don't have a landline or VOIP. I live by myself. Guess VOIP is not something I would need or even see as a need. I'll stick to my cell phone only plan.

most people get voip to save on long distance bills. believe it or not some people can spend hundreds a month on long distance.

as far as outage. in the last 5 years my phone service has been out longer than my DSL has.

How is that even possible. I mean, both run on the same line... 😕

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
I guess I'm used to only using my cell phone as I don't have a landline or VOIP. I live by myself. Guess VOIP is not something I would need or even see as a need. I'll stick to my cell phone only plan.

most people get voip to save on long distance bills. believe it or not some people can spend hundreds a month on long distance.

as far as outage. in the last 5 years my phone service has been out longer than my DSL has.

How is that even possible. I mean, both run on the same line... 😕

sorry let me rephrase. in five years of service before DSL my phone got disconnected for 3 days due to fallen lines.
in the five years since i have never had a DSL outage, due to a problem with my provider.
just saying that DSL is just as reliable as the telephone line it is run on.

though i suppose the VoIP provider could have problems but your DSL would still work...so.. i guess not.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey

Originally posted by: frankgomez75
I guess I'm used to only using my cell phone as I don't have a landline or VOIP. I live by myself. Guess VOIP is not something I would need or even see as a need. I'll stick to my cell phone only plan.

most people get voip to save on long distance bills. believe it or not some people can spend hundreds a month on long distance.

as far as outage. in the last 5 years my phone service has been out longer than my DSL has.

How is that even possible. I mean, both run on the same line... 😕

sorry let me rephrase. in five years of service before DSL my phone got disconnected for 3 days due to fallen lines.
in the five years since i have never had a DSL outage, due to a problem with my provider.
just saying that DSL is just as reliable as the telephone line it is run on.

though i suppose the VoIP provider could have problems but your DSL would still work...so.. i guess not.

Ah. Still, with a fairly large sample size and a decent sampling rate (it is possible that it went down briefly at night but you missed it b/c you weren't awake, etc) you still have 100% uptime.

 

[Aves]

Originally posted by: So
How is that even possible. I mean, both run on the same line... 😕

Line troubles aren't the only thing that can take your phone or your DSL down.

 

[Jeff7181]

If ISP's keep doing this... the fine should be $15,000... paid to every customer who was sold the $10 per month "unfiltered port" package.

 

[Sphexi]

Vonage has an automatic forwarding setup, if I lose power or my ISP is down or something my calls get forwarded to my Sprint cell without me having to do anything. Without power my cell still works, and my voicemail picks up the slack if it's dead or not on. No matter what they can leave a message without a problem.

I also have my cable modem/router/Vonage box hooked up to a UPS, which I've tested and they run a solid 2 hours on without a problem. That's plenty long to call the power company about issues, and I've rarely had a power outtage more than a few hours at most. If I have to call 911, I can do so from home or cell, and I'm STILL paying less for both that I was for Verizon's Freedom Package which gave me unlimited local/LD. They wanted like $70/month for it, I'm barely paying $60 for Vonage and my cell, hell not even $50.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
OMG!!! WHAT IF FLYING PIGS FLEW OUT OF THE BURGLAR'S BUTT WHILE CUTTING YOUR PHONE LINE AND STEALING THE SIM CARD FROM YOUR CELL PHONE?!?!?!?!

That happened to me once...

 

[FoBoT]

i have heard of flying monkeys , but not flying pigs

 

[Zim Hosein]

Originally posted by: bloodthirster
OK... I e-mailed FCC and Vonage. We will see if anyone responds. A $15,000 fine would hurt a small ISP like Speednetllc.

Any update for us bloodthirster?

 

[bloodthirster]

Only the fact I told them id pay the fee to turn the filter off and they have not done so yet. Better do it soon. My Landline gets shut off friday.

 

[bloodthirster]

Speednet backed off the monthly charge for some reason. But they said its againt the Acceptable use policy to Stream audio... Damn I guess you cant do anything but check yer e-mail and shop ebay nowadys for the $42 a month I give em. LOL

 

[Ausm]

I don't have to worry aboit it because Charter supplies my VOIP.

Ausm

 

[Kelemvor]

Is VOIP technically streaming audio? Hmm. I guess it might be but that's a long shot.

Let us know what you hear back from FCC and Vonage. I'd like to know how this turns out and if you have trouble once you get the phone working.

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: bloodthirster
Speednet backed off the monthly charge for some reason. But they said its againt the Acceptable use policy to Stream audio... Damn I guess you cant do anything but check yer e-mail and shop ebay nowadys for the $42 a month I give em. LOL

Great job!

I'd still report them though 🙂 Who knows how many others are getting ripped off.

 

[spacelord]

I like how ISPs keep raising bandwidth and adding more restrictions on what you can do with it.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Originally posted by: dabuddha

Originally posted by: bloodthirster
Speednet backed off the monthly charge for some reason. But they said its againt the Acceptable use policy to Stream audio... Damn I guess you cant do anything but check yer e-mail and shop ebay nowadys for the $42 a month I give em. LOL

Great job!

I'd still report them though 🙂 Who knows how many others are getting ripped off.

He already did. He contacted the FCC and Vonage, who must have in turn contacted his ISP to let them know.

 

[Rock Hydra]

Originally posted by: DurocShark
OMG!!! WHAT IF FLYING PIGS FLEW OUT OF THE BURGLAR'S AIR CONDITIONER WHILE CUTTING YOUR PHONE LINE AND STEALING THE SIM CARD FROM YOUR CELL PHONE?!?!?!?!

:Q

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: spacelord
I like how ISPs keep raising bandwidth and adding more restrictions on what you can do with it.

Its all a marketing ploy, I tells ya!

 

[darkamulets]

Originally posted by: randal

Originally posted by: The Boss
Is it me or every fvckin ISP in this country full of sh!t? We pay high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth and then get raped on bullsh!t filters like these. Ridiculous.

I think the filtering is also horrible, but "high-ass prices for minimum bandwidth" is -NOT- the fault of the ISPs. It is the fault of the carriers. Consider that a T1 costs ~$500 almost anywhere in the US. Consider that your cable modem costs ~$50. Then consider that your cable modem is TWICE AS FAST as the T1, for 1/10th the cost.

If you think that -You're- getting screwed on bandwidth, talk to your ISP. I'm sure that they pay upwards of $3000 for a full DS3 (loop + bandwidth) -- which provides for a whopping 15 customers. $3000 in costs for an awesome $750 in revenue ... hence oversubscription, bandwidth caps, dare I say filters. The real problem is that the residential user bitches and complains while being ignorant of the real problem -- that the ISP is getting shafted by the Bells.

And exactly how much dark fiber is their in the US that we could use to increase bandwith?