SCSI help needed.

[hmsrolst]

I had a P2B-DS (on-board Adaptec SCSI adapter) up and running with W2K on an IDE HD. I pulled it to try a SCSI drive--9.1Gb 80pin Ultra Wide 2 10000RPM Compaq with a 68/80 pin converter. The Bios recognizes the drive and assigns it as Device 0 and ULTRA2-SE. I'm able to partition and format it, but when I try install W2K, I get stop errors, either of:

0X00000050-- PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA

0X0000007A-- KERNEL_DATA_INPAGE_ERROR

I'm using the ASUS cable and terminator and everything is at default settings, e.g. termination is enabled for the on-board adapter. If I try to install W98 I get the following fatal error--Standard Mode: Fault outside of MS-DOS extender.

Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.

 

[Mikendi]

Did you hit F6 at the prompt to load third party drivers later in the install? You could try setting up win2k from floppies and doing that. Also how is your BIOS setup?

 

[hmsrolst]

I didn't hit F6 because the SCSI drivers are native to W2K. In fact, I don't have any other drivers. I've tried both a CDROM and a floppy install with the same result, as I have been assuming I shouldn't hit F6. The BIOS settings are pretty much default, e.g., RAM timing is set by SPD, no overclocking, although I've eliminated shadow caching because the W2K troubleshooter suggested that. Also the SCSI BIOS settings are entirely default. What did you have in mind? Thanks.

 

[Cuular]

Did you change the motherboards bios to tell it to boot from scsi, and to actually disable the IDE controllers on it? And did you go into the scsi cards bios and set the boot device to be the SCSI ID of the drive you installed?

One other thing that has helped me on previous ASUS installs was to install a single ID device like a CDROM. After installing that IDE device and setting the bios to boot form SCSI, and setting the scsi bios boot device, I was able to do the install to a scsi HD. Not sure why, but I don't argue with weird things like that, when I am sure the mobo manufacturer probably didn't test a scsi only system.

 

[Richard98]

Do you have the Drive end of the SCSI chain terminated? Your original post wasn't completely clear on this. I got similar errors when I didn't have the drives properly terminated.

 

[Trashman]

I just wanna through this out, whether or not this has something to do with your situation, i dunno but...I notice that the SCSI BIOS lists the drive as an Ultra2-SE not LVD, I would assume then you are not using an LCD cable or that 80-68pin adapter is not LVD compatable, off the top of my head I'm thinkin ok, you should be able to run that drive is "SE" mode but this is where I'm not sure. would there be a setting in the SCSI BIOS that you'd have to change to run in SE vs LVD??
I'm more or less thinkin out loud, maybe someone with more knowledge would know but, just wondering if that's the problem, since U2W requires LVD but I've heard and read others sayin that SE can be done.
Just doing a search on Microsofts Knowledge base that 1st error you list

<< 0X00000050-- PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA >>

, is caused by faulty ram, which can be or may not be true, and maybe termination or LVD imcompatabilities, is causing this, since you had no problems with 2K on IDE drive, assuming your using same memory....here's the link...here.
Hope you get problem solved, would like to follow your thread and see what your problem is, I'm sure with all the SCSI guys here you'll get it.

 

[hmsrolst]

I really appreciate the responses. Let me try to clarify, as that might help on next steps:

Cuular: The mobo is set to boot from SCSI and the SCSI BIOS is set to boot from the SCSI ID (0 in this case). I'm not sure what you mean in your second suggestion about "a single ID device." Did you mean "IDE"? I'm using an IDE CDROM, and booting from it, so I can't disable the IDE controllers. Are you suggesting that I use a SCSI CDROM which I could do?

Richard98: I'm using a 68-pin cable that came with a Terminator and the mobo. The adapter is listed in the SCSI BIOS as terminated, the HD is connected to the first connector after the mobo, and I've tried the terminator at the next connector as well as the last connector on the cable.

Trashman: I'm confident my RAM is okay; I've switched two sticks in and out (both Crucial CAS2, PC133 running at 66Mhz). I haven't found anything about opting for LVD vs. SE in the SCSI BIOS, but perhaps it's described differently.

Thanks.

 

[Magicthyse]

Try the terminator at the last connection on the cable, immediately followed by the HDD.

 

[Lorne]

Set the Bios to boot from C:, Set all IDE drives in the bios to none but leave the IDE controllers on.
Windowz and w2k will mount the IDE drives when its booted, You may have to configure drive letters the way you want them later.
The pagefault does sound like ram but if it test out ok prviously There might be a power problem with the extra card (SCSI) and drive, Maybe barrow a better supply if you can and test this therey out.

Notes
The SCSI termination is ok, the controller will notify you otherwise.
If you have a LVD or UW2 drive on the main LVD connector Dont use the external port for anything except external LVD/UW2 drives.

The second note hurt me, I had to get another controller just to use my scanner since it was SCSI2.

I use a Ultra160 on my meesly K6-2 550 with a 10k U160, Most of you think this is overkill for a whimpy system but its brought it back to life , No latency what so ever, SCSI fanatic for many a yr.

 

[hmsrolst]

Lorne, I'm confused by one of your suggestions. When I try to install W2K on the SCSI drive, no other HD's are in the machine, so I can't boot from C, since there's no OS on it, i.e., I boot from the CDROM. Please clarify if I'm missing the point.

I don't think it's a power supply problem, since the only card in the system is the video card, the SCSI is on-board, it's a PCPower and Cooling PSU, and the processors are only Celeron 300's.

Thanks.

 

[Richard98]

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Notes
The SCSI termination is ok, the controller will notify you otherwise.
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Not True, at least with my card (2940u2w). I believe the bios default option on mine is automatic termination. That works fine in dos, but blows up in Win98.