Screw Sony

[Malak]

1. Yes, but you have to be authenticated to PSN prior to accessing netflix. Netflix on the PSN is NOT working as it was before PSN was brought down. Sure for some users it will work after the "three tries" method, but for many it simply does not work at all.

2. Are you sure it isn't Sony's fault? Have you read up on the sheer amount of incompetence Sony has displayed in their design and maintenance? They were running unpatched servers, no firewalls, etc. Tons of examples where the most basic of netsec best practices were ignored.

It seems like you are saying Sony holds no blame for any of their recent problems.

Sony making mistakes is not the same as it being their fault someone attacked them. It's like blaming someone for dying because they weren't wearing fully body armor.

Netflix works for everyone. The people that can't get it to work are having a completely different issue, most likely user-related.

 

[davmat787]

Sony making mistakes is not the same as it being their fault someone attacked them. It's like blaming someone for dying because they weren't wearing fully body armor.

Netflix works for everyone. The people that can't get it to work are having a completely different issue, most likely user-related.

I agree (bolded) in that sense, don't get me wrong. However, the sheer amount of hubris and incompetence that is coming to light from this whole mess is appalling. If Sony spent a fraction on netsec, developers, QA, and proper database implementation as they do on lawyers and DRM scheming, this whole thing might never have happened. I should disclose that I am in software testing and write software test automation, so this kind of shit really gets to me. There is no way Sony put anywhere near an adequate level of testing into PSN before they rolled it out for people to trust them with their names, addresses, and credit cards.

As for "netflix working for everyone", are you saying it is working the exact same as it did before PSN went down?

 

[Malak]

I agree (bolded) in that sense, don't get me wrong. However, the sheer amount of hubris and incompetence that is coming to light from this whole mess is appalling. If Sony spent a fraction on netsec, developers, QA, and proper database implementation as they do on lawyers and DRM scheming, this whole thing might never have happened. I should disclose that I am in software testing and write software test automation, so this kind of shit really gets to me. There is no way Sony put anywhere near an adequate level of testing into PSN before they rolled it out for people to trust them with their names, addresses, and credit cards.

As for "netflix working for everyone", are you saying it is working the exact same as it did before PSN went down?

I think you are not giving them the benefit of the doubt. How many years has PSN been running without issue? How many major companies have been breached regardless of security? Nothing is 100% secure unless it isn't connected. Shit happens, and they are doing their best to correct it. Certainly a lot better than what Microsoft knowingly did with their console...

 

[davmat787]

I think you are not giving them the benefit of the doubt. How many years has PSN been running without issue? How many major companies have been breached regardless of security? Nothing is 100% secure unless it isn't connected. Shit happens, and they are doing their best to correct it. Certainly a lot better than what Microsoft knowingly did with their console...

Why would I give Sony the benefit of the doubt, when it took so long for them to warn users of them being compromised? Or for being down still, and for so long, which speaks to Sony having to change a shitload in their implementation after review by proper network and security outsiders? Or after the rootkit fiasco?

If I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt, you are giving them too much credit and maybe the truth of the matter lies somewhere in between. But I just can't get how incompetent they are handling this.

As for MS, are you referring to the RROD issue? That is a fair shot no doubt, but did it affect 70+ million users along with their addresses and CC data?

 

[drebo]

I use a Roku and Netflix looks awesome and works great.

 

[Kadarin]

I think you are not giving them the benefit of the doubt.

Give them the benefit of the doubt? Remember, this is the same company that put rootkit software on their music CDs. I'm not giving them shit, let alone the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Malak]

Give them the benefit of the doubt? Remember, this is the same company that put rootkit software on their music CDs. I'm not giving them shit, let alone the benefit of the doubt.

It really isn't the same company actually.

 

[Malak]

Why would I give Sony the benefit of the doubt, when it took so long for them to warn users of them being compromised? Or for being down still, and for so long, which speaks to Sony having to change a shitload in their implementation after review by proper network and security outsiders? Or after the rootkit fiasco?

If I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt, you are giving them too much credit and maybe the truth of the matter lies somewhere in between. But I just can't get how incompetent they are handling this.

As for MS, are you referring to the RROD issue? That is a fair shot no doubt, but did it affect 70+ million users along with their addresses and CC data?

We really don't know how this issue will affect users beyond having SOE servers down a few weeks. Being compromised and actually having things taken and used are two different things. I'm not saying there isn't an issue, I'm just saying it is being blown out of proportion.

 

[davmat787]

Give them the benefit of the doubt? Remember, this is the same company that put rootkit software on their music CDs. I'm not giving them shit, let alone the benefit of the doubt.

No kidding. I don't see how one could honestly and objectively give Sony the benefit of the doubt given the companies history and everything that has come to light regarding the current fiasco, unless they are a hardcore fanboi. Sony's track record regarding how they view their customer base is heinous.

Either they are so incompetent they did not no any better, or they made a conscience decision to save a few bucks on their PSN implementation over doing it correctly.

How long has PSN been down now? But just wait, they are going to give everyone a FREE MONTH of PSN access!

Also keep in mind all of the lost business developers are facing with games distributed digitally only, or new releases that can't be played. The PS version of Portal 2 was supposed to be the definitive version, and from what I understand it is a coaster right now that can't be played.

 

[davmat787]

We really don't know how this issue will affect users beyond having SOE servers down a few weeks. Being compromised and actually having things taken and used are two different things. I'm not saying there isn't an issue, I'm just saying it is being blown out of proportion.

How many user accounts were compromised? And if they were not compromised, CC data included, why is Sony working on offering everyone ID Theft protection?