Screenshot of Lindows!!!

[LuckyTaxi]

Lindows

 

[miguel]

Cannot find server or DNS Error

 

[UnixFreak]

Nice.. this decreases the chances that this is vaporware... a bit..

Ugly desktop though. Wonder if you can put KDE on it.

 

[KenCleanAirSystem]

That is KDE ... look at the 'Start' menu in the second screenshot.

 

[KenCleanAirSystem]

<< Cannot find server or DNS Error >>



I got that error when I first tried the link too. Refresh the page and it should come up.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

what the hell is the point?

they are just taking a good OS and putting a windows GUI on it....i mean, this doesnt promote linux, it promotes windows. any copies of windows software will probably be inferior hackjobs, and running real windows apps under wine or something similar will result in them being just as crash-prone.

things like lindows HURT linux, then dont help it, IMO at least.

get over windows, just because its popular doesnt mean its something to emulate.

 

[trmiv]

I can't get on the site, even after refreshing.

edit: nevermind, it finally loaded up after a long wait.


I find it interesting that in that one screen shot, the email in the background is talking about finding a "Critical" security hole in XP. Think they planned that?

 

[thornc]

...I think Redmond Linux is a better option!!

 

[KenCleanAirSystem]

<< what the hell is the point?

they are just taking a good OS and putting a windows GUI on it....i mean, this doesnt promote linux, it promotes windows. any copies of windows software will probably be inferior hackjobs, and running real windows apps under wine or something similar will result in them being just as crash-prone.

things like lindows HURT linux, then dont help it, IMO at least.

get over windows, just because its popular doesnt mean its something to emulate. >>



I'd have to agree with that. The only part of Windows I would like to see integrated into Linux would be DirectX. The only thing I missed when I ran Linux as my desktop OS, and the reason I currently run WinXP, was the ability to play Direct 3D games. All the OpenGL games run great (those that get ported anyway), but you're SOL if you want to play anything that needs DirectX.

The Linux box now is home to FreeBSD and is CLI only. I'd love to be able to go back to Linux on my desktop (I miss Enlightenment ... alot) but I've got too many games that just dont run in Linux

 

[UnixFreak]

<< they are just taking a good OS and putting a windows GUI on it....i mean, this doesnt promote linux, it promotes windows. any copies of windows software will probably be inferior hackjobs, and running real windows apps under wine or something similar will result in them being just as crash-prone.
>>



I am under the impression that it is a Wine-like implementation. There is no way they will be able to write programs to "emulate" MS software like that, legally. Nor, could they modify windows apps to run under linux, and sell the package. I am thinking its just a layer between existing MS apps, and Linux



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things like lindows HURT linux, then dont help it, IMO at least.

get over windows, just because its popular doesnt mean its something to emulate. >>


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It could go either way, IMO. It could be a good transition OS to get people hooked on Linux, and then later, they go to a "real" linux distro. or, it could do as you say, and screw em over. Who knows.

I, personally, am more for Open-source apps developing and replacing Windows apps altogether, I think thats a better idea. Its just the transition thats difficult for some.

Edit: Kenair, your post popped in "behind" mine, so I didnt see it. I agree, we need Directx in Linux. That will "seal the deal" for a lot of people to start using it. You get all the popular games going in Linux, you've got a huge chunk of the market.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<<

<< what the hell is the point?

they are just taking a good OS and putting a windows GUI on it....i mean, this doesnt promote linux, it promotes windows. any copies of windows software will probably be inferior hackjobs, and running real windows apps under wine or something similar will result in them being just as crash-prone.

things like lindows HURT linux, then dont help it, IMO at least.

get over windows, just because its popular doesnt mean its something to emulate. >>



I'd have to agree with that. The only part of Windows I would like to see integrated into Linux would be DirectX. The only thing I missed when I ran Linux as my desktop OS, and the reason I currently run WinXP, was the ability to play Direct 3D games. All the OpenGL games run great (those that get ported anyway), but you're SOL if you want to play anything that needs DirectX.

The Linux box now is home to FreeBSD and is CLI only. I'd love to be able to go back to Linux on my desktop (I miss Enlightenment ... alot) but I've got too many games that just dont run in Linux >>



yep, linux tends to suck for gamers, good thing i'm not one!!!!! HHAHAHAHAHA

heh

 

[NorthenLove]

Come on folks don't knock untill you have tried it. I will not judge Lindows untill the final version comes out and then I will give it a try. If they can keep their promise of being able to run windows and Linux software with no problems or hitches then I don't have any issues with that. The more options they present to people in terms of giving them a choice in OS's the better as far as I am concerned. If it breaks the strangle hold that M$ has on the OS and application market the better.

 

[BlackOmen]

Agreed, if you want to run windows apps, use windows. Linux is its own animal, and as such, has separate apps. This is from the Lindows FAQ:
as a business that plans on being around for a very long time, Lindows.com will at times have some unique and proprietary components. Additionally, Lindows will cost $99.

Oooh, and for another $99, you can become an "Insider", and have access to the following:
- Unique Insider ID
- Access to private discussion forums
- Access to Lindows.com staff
- Email support
- Insider newsletter updates
- Screenshots
- Access to bug tracking database
- Access to the application compatibility database
- Access to privileged product information prior to public release
- Information on future products and strategies
- Early releases of certain software

A lot of distros provide most of the above for FREE. And wine will run a lot of Windows apps already. Looks like another approach to dumbify Linux (which I feel hurts it). Any fairly knowlegable Linux user can apps to run under wine, this is preying on those who aren't quite up to par on the OS (or as Microsoft does, preys on the ignorant).

I feel that one of perks to Linux/BSD/Unix is learning the OS because it's not a mainstream desktop OS, not have everything handed to you on a silver platter.

I'll pass. Spare us all, RTFM to get stuff done in Linux, and forget this.

 

[NorthenLove]

How will Lindows affect Linux in a negative way ? This is the same things some people said about so called easy to use distro's like SuSE and Mandrake. This is a lot the same stuff people said about bringing a desktop to Linux or as some might call it bringing Linux to the desktop. How will Lindows effectively destory Linux or damage it ? If you want more apps and more support ( drivers ) from the industry and a change that will benefit all then I don't know why you guys don't want to support the work being done there at Lindows.

 

[BD231]

Nice, looks very user friendly, still not windows though. Linux and Lindows are still "for the geeks, by the geeks" as they say, open source code seems a little untrustworthy IMO.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<< How will Lindows affect Linux in a negative way ? This is the same things some people said about so called easy to use distro's like SuSE and Mandrake. This is a lot the same stuff people said about bringing a desktop to Linux or as some might call it bringing Linux to the desktop. How will Lindows effectively destory Linux or damage it ? If you want more apps and more support ( drivers ) from the industry and a change that will benefit all then I don't know why you guys don't want to support the work being done there at Lindows. >>



becuase mandrake and suse are very obviously linux. lindows almost seems like it's trying to suggest that it is a 'new' os or something. it's not windows, but do you see a penguin anywhere?

 

[NorthenLove]

<< Nice, looks very user friendly, still not windows though. Linux and Lindows are still "for the geeks, by the geeks" as they say, open source code seems a little untrustworthy IMO. >>



So does that mean that you have tried the beta ? Again don't knock it untill you tried it. Also if you think Linux is geeky then you must be blind at how geeky it is to mess around a regedit or do any sort of tweaking in windows..

 

[NorthenLove]

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<< How will Lindows affect Linux in a negative way ? This is the same things some people said about so called easy to use distro's like SuSE and Mandrake. This is a lot the same stuff people said about bringing a desktop to Linux or as some might call it bringing Linux to the desktop. How will Lindows effectively destory Linux or damage it ? If you want more apps and more support ( drivers ) from the industry and a change that will benefit all then I don't know why you guys don't want to support the work being done there at Lindows. >>



becuase mandrake and suse are very obviously linux. lindows almost seems like it's trying to suggest that it is a 'new' os or something. it's not windows, but do you see a penguin anywhere? >>



Again don't knock it untill you see the final version of it or have used it yourself and untill then just wait and see.

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

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<< Nice, looks very user friendly, still not windows though. Linux and Lindows are still "for the geeks, by the geeks" as they say, open source code seems a little untrustworthy IMO. >>



So does that mean that you have tried the beta ? Again don't knock it untill you tried it. Also if you think Linux is geeky then you must be blind at how geeky it is to mess around a regedit or do any sort of tweaking in windows.. >>



your advice of "dont knock it till you try it" is kind of pointless here, i mean i, and some others in this thread, are turned off by philosophical and logistical aspects of it, which have nothing to do with actually experiencing it.

 

[NorthenLove]

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<< Nice, looks very user friendly, still not windows though. Linux and Lindows are still "for the geeks, by the geeks" as they say, open source code seems a little untrustworthy IMO. >>



So does that mean that you have tried the beta ? Again don't knock it untill you tried it. Also if you think Linux is geeky then you must be blind at how geeky it is to mess around a regedit or do any sort of tweaking in windows.. >>



your advice of "dont knock it till you try it" is kind of pointless here, i mean i, and some others in this thread, are turned off by philosophical and logistical aspects of it, which have nothing to do with actually experiencing it. >>



Well as far as the logistical aspects is concerned we don't know what is really going on under the hood so how can you judge with out peeking underneath the hood ? As for the philosphical debate well I don't see the harm of what they are doing. All they are doing is running a OS using a Linux kernel along with KDE, and applying so of the work done under WINE and some of their own coded handy work to allow people to use windows apps and at the same time trying to make money off their work. What's wrong with that ? No one says you have to buy it or that people should not be made aware of WINE or other Linux distros. Hell if your offend at this then maybe you are offend at the the work done by the folks a VMWare?

 

[Barnaby W. Füi]

<< As for the philosphical debate well I don't see the harm of what they are doing. >>


exactly, YOU dont.


<< All they are doing is running a OS using a Linux kernel along with KDE, WINE and some of their own coded handy work to allow people to use windows apps and at the same time trying to make money off the work. What's wrong with that ? No one says you have to buy it or that people should not be made aware of WINE or other Linux distros. Hell if your offend at this then maybe you are offend at the the work done by the folks a VMWare? >>


true, but to me it seems like they are pulling peoples underwear over their heads in the same fashion that MS does. I don't KNOW any of this, and i cant really make a set opinion about 'lindows' until it is released and there is more info, but from all of the info that is available, i dont like it.

i'm not offended by it either, and i'm especially not 'offended' by vmware, they make a nice product.

EDIT: and overall, i really dont care about lindows that much. i dont think they will do very well, along with redmond linux. they just seem like generic ripoffs of windows. i'm not really against them because i think they will fail anyways, so its really not that big of an issue to me.

 

[NorthenLove]

<<

<< As for the philosphical debate well I don't see the harm of what they are doing. >>


exactly, YOU dont.


<< All they are doing is running a OS using a Linux kernel along with KDE, WINE and some of their own coded handy work to allow people to use windows apps and at the same time trying to make money off the work. What's wrong with that ? No one says you have to buy it or that people should not be made aware of WINE or other Linux distros. Hell if your offend at this then maybe you are offend at the the work done by the folks a VMWare? >>


true, but to me it seems like they are pulling peoples underwear over their heads in the same fashion that MS does. I don't KNOW any of this, and i cant really make a set opinion about 'lindows' until it is released and there is more info, but from all of the info that is available, i dont like it.

i'm not offended by it either, and i'm especially not 'offended' by vmware, they make a nice product.

EDIT: and overall, i really dont care about lindows that much. i dont think they will do very well, along with redmond linux. they just seem like generic ripoffs of windows. i'm not really against them because i think they will fail anyways, so its really not that big of an issue to me. >>




How are they pulling the "underware" over peoples heads exactly ? Also your agruements along with that of others are the same arguements made against KDE when people started the work on KDE and other projects and such. Everyone said that KDE was just a attempt to windowized Linux yet I have not seen the harm done by KDE have you ? It seems that everytime someone mentions a solution towards making things a litte bit easier a lot of people in the Linux commmuntiy lose their heads and everyone thinks that such works will somehow destroy Linux or neuter it somehow. Besides I don't see how distros like Debian, Slack, RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake and others will be affected by this in any way ? Maybe some folks egos might be effected but Linux as a whole I think has nothing to fear from Lindows.

 

[BlackOmen]

How are they pulling the "underware" over peoples heads exactly ? Also your agruements along with that of others are the same arguements made against when people started the work on KDE and other projects and such. Everyone said that KDE was just a attempt to windowized Linux yet I have not seen the harm done by KDE have you ? It seems that everytime someone mentions a solution towards making things a litte bit easier a lot of people in the Linux commmuntiy lose their heads and everyone thinks that such works will somehow destroy Linux or neuter it somehow. Besides I don't see how distros like Debian, Slack, RedHat, SuSE, Mandrake and others will not be affected by this in any way ? Maybe some folks egos might be effected but Linux as a whole I think has nothing to fear from Lindows

I have no problem with KDE or the fact the it is windows-like. As a matter of fact, I've been using KDE for the past 3 months after a year of windowmaker. Part of the reason I use Linux is to get AWAY from windows and to free myself from Microsoft. I know a lot of people use Linux for the same reasons. It is completely possible to use all open source products under linux. The problem with Lindows is that you are still bound to microsoft.

they just seem like generic ripoffs of windows (in reference to Lindows and Redmond Linux)
Exactly, they are ripoffs. What Lindows is doing is taking a unique piece of software (KDE) and make it look like Windows. Linux is it's own animal with it's own products, look, and feel. Linux did not become what it is (a subject for another debate) because it immitated windows. It became what it is because people wrote their own software to compete with windows, rather than remain dependent on MS on another OS.

 

[StuckMojo]

why dont you guys read what it says.

all they are doing is doing some coding on WINE so that it will run office XP...and
eventually other windows apps. there is no reason for it to look like a windows
desktop unless you want it to.

they are adding to WINE and they are charging for it. weee. big deal.


PS screw directX up the ass. its proprietary, and it sucks. the only reason
anyone uses directX is that it has MS support and backing.

 

[NorthenLove]

Exactly just like the people at Transgaming are charging $5 bucks to download their lastest version of WINEX for people who want to run windows games on Linux. Yet were is the outrage ? I won't even go there with the desktop thing because judging by those standards is kind of dumb in my opinion. Especially when you can find some Linux users running XP themes on KDE which in no ways degrades the quality of KDE in anyway except in the looks department.