SCOTUS hearing on Roe V Wade

[brycejones]

This is another can of worms. Probably start a new thread so you guys can just bash me there instead of actually having intelligent debate.

Really, was it me or you who said cum dumpster?

I just summarized your earlier comments about women. If you find it offensive then you should examine your own ideas.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

I just summarized your earlier comments about women. If you find it offensive then you should examine your own ideas.

You are gaslighting.

 

[ivwshane]

Always a good sign you are dealing with an intelligent debate is the use of gifs.

I wonder what incel community he belongs to.

 

[Zorba]

Yes, your characterization is obscene. Motherhood is something greater than just being an incubator. But the modern world is so effed in the head about love and responsibility that many only look at this in dispassionately scientific manner. As if that is all that is going on here - the mechanics of biology. It’s like some kind of scientific fundamentalism from my perspective - and I'm a trained scientist and believe in its value to mankind. We are losing our way.

Why exactly is child birth any less scientific with humans than any other animal?

 

[MrSquished]

If you put something into your body it's your decision and the consequences BELONG to you. Unless there is a rape the consenting parties BOTH know the risks and likely the thought will go through your mind a couple times even if you know there is no risk. You cannot blame the end result because that will NEVER fix the problem, because you fail to fully assess the implications of individual accountability. What is society without accountability? It's anarchy. That's what they want. Means to an end.

I understand what you are saying about some pro lifers not helping, but to be honest, they do alot more than planned parenthood. For example, you cannot get a sonagram without consenting to abort your baby first.

No you get nothing.

The vast majority of pro lifers are against anything pro life. George Carlin just gives a short list, but we can also include they are against making healthcare more accessible to the pregnant mom, affordable housing, affordable daycare, higher wages to make it easier to raise a kid, anything and everything that is actually pro-life they are against. You are just another in denial anti-choicer pretending to be pro-life when you are nothing of the sort. It just makes you feel go0d about such a shitty person that is actually against anything pro-life, so you make up a fake issue you can call yourself that.

You are also a misogynist pig that sees women as 'barren' and unable to lead a fulfilled life if they don't pump out babies and become moms. I mean you said it and i quoted it. I mean that is nasty.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

The fact that you've repeated lies about selling baby parts leads me to believe that you're probably a mixture of both; a conservative liar, and a brainwashed moron.

Again, you are wrong. Totally opposite the truth.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

The vast majority of pro lifers are against anything pro life.

Lies from the tablecloth.

Wonder which path I should choose....

 

[brycejones]

You are gaslighting.

Nope

Right, leading a selfish, baron life as a women is so much more redeeming and valuable than any other role that a women might play in this lifetime.

 

[brycejones]

Lies from the tablecloth.

Wonder which path I should choose....

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You're a man correct?

 

[NWRMidnight]

I agree that religion in general is corrupt, but not with those who still have faith in God. There is still a remnant. Of the 56 who signed the Declaration of Independence, 29 actually held seminary degrees. This nation has Christian roots, but we have turned away from God. The only protection that can keep us safe and sound. And in the absence of God's protection, we only get one thing: A curse from the prince of darkness.

Good God. Where to begin? Do you honestly believe that I am going to buy into your heavily flawed logic here? Or do you expect me to buy into planned parenthoods billion dollar a year murder of unborn/partial birth/newborn babies? And the fact that they then desecrate the body once the murder has been completed? And then sell body parts to the highest bidder? How sick is that? EDIT: Let's just pop this balloon right now.

There is a HUGE hole in this debate if you are advocating for the murder of unborn babies (ie. if you are pro death). Little tip: The only thing that will stop a pro death supporter in his/her tracks is to bring up the imagery of the act of abortion itself. Generally speaking they begin to short circuit when you show them pictures of murdered children that are small enough to fit in the palm of your hand, the most fragile creation on this earth, getting butchered like a piece of meat. It's not a sign that leaves you for a long time, and there is nothing they can say to get around the true, grizzly and homicidal schizophrenia that is planned parenthood.

Do you not realize that procreation is necessary for the viability of mankind? Does that just fly right over your head? You do realize pregnancy is a natural, biological process, right? If you really think leading a baron life alone and selfish is more enriching and redeeming and enthralling than a women who is a mother and grandmother and a great grandmother? Not a snowballs chance in hell would that supposition EVER be true.

I quite reading after you made the false claim that this nation has Christian roots.. Our founding fathers where all primarily Deism, which has nothing to do with Christianity. Deism religion is a philosophical belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems. Your claim is a falsehood made up by the "Christian" establishment to push their views..

 

[MrSquished]

Lies from the tablecloth.

Wonder which path I should choose....

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Please show me all the assistance a 'pregnancy center' gives - not some fucking jpeg, and not one or two in the country. There is no network of pregnancy centers that do any of what I said. I mean I have all the evidence pro lifers vote against that shit all the time. Then again pro life right wing religious kooks post all kind of insane jpegs online and think they are truth - like Biden is a pedophile, COvid is a hoax, the vaccine is microchipped.

You are disturbed.

 

[MrSquished]

If earth was a pair of underwear, this guy and all who think like him would be considered shitstains.

 

[nickqt]

Again, you are wrong. Totally opposite the truth.

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So your answer is that you're a typical conservative liar who is also a brainwashed moron.

Thanks for the response.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

If earth was a pair of underwear, this guy and all who think like him would be considered shitstains.

Do you expect me to belie

I quite reading after you made the false claim that this nation has Christian roots.. Our founding fathers where all primarily Deism, which has nothing to do with Christianity. Deism religion is a philosophical belief in human reason as a reliable means of solving social and political problems. Your claim is a falsehood made up by the "Christian" establishment to push their views..

You must be one of those history revisionists. They are very common on the liberal left. Because you let other people shape your world view so you don't even care if its right or wrong, do you?

 

[fskimospy]

Just like when a drunk gets in his car after a night of heavy drinking. He isnt "choosing" to crash into a telephone pole but he does anyway and it's his fault. If he crashes into another car, it's also his fault. If he kills someone it's his fault. You don't blame the dead victim he killed! You blame the telephone pole.

Ever heard of accountability for your actions?

This would seem to put older people having sex in the same boat as drunk drivers due to what Paratus linked earlier.

 

[fskimospy]

Do you expect me to belie

You must be one of those history revisionists. They are very common on the liberal left. Because you let other people shape your world view so you don't even care if its right or wrong, do you?

I’ve got some more bad news for you, friend.

That the US is not a Christian nation comes from no less than the founding fathers themselves, signed by John Adams himself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli

The Treaty is often cited in discussions regarding the role of religion in United States government for a clause in Article 11 of the English language American version which states that "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

So what do you know about the founding of the US that escaped John Adams?

 

[MrSquished]

Do you expect me to belie

You must be one of those history revisionists. They are very common on the liberal left. Because you let other people shape your world view so you don't even care if its right or wrong, do you?

It doesn't even matter if the founding fathers had Christian ideals. They also owned slaves, didn't think women should vote (thought I doubt you do either), only white men with property could vote, slaves could count as 3/5 of a person so the South could have more power in government, etc...

The founding fathers were terrible in many ways. Whether they were or weren't means jack shit. And as we see by your views, if you are what Christians are, you people are horrific and haven't evolved since the founding fathers while the rest of us have been.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

WRONG. It does matter.

 

[MrSquished]

WRONG. It does matter.


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Thanks for proving you haven't evolved in over two centuries. Just such horrible regressive people.

Right, leading a selfish, baron life as a women is so much more redeeming and valuable than any other role that a women might play in this lifetime.

I mean you are disgusting and ruining our society. I wish people like you nothing good during this holiday season.

 

[Storm-Chaser]

Gee, I wonder what George would think of planned parenthood and the murder of unborn children? He would probably ride around PP headquarters 3 times on his horse and watch God obliterate it with the breath of his mouth.

Thanks for proving you haven't evolved in over two centuries. Just such horrible regressive people.

You don't have to get defensive just because I keep proving you wrong.

 

[MrSquished]

Gee, I wonder what George would think of planned parenthood and the murder of unborn children? He would probably ride around PP headquarters 3 times on his horse and watch God obliterate it with the breath of his mouth.


You don't have to get defensive just because I keep proving you wrong.

My dog's shits make more intellectully accurate points than you do. They also have more decency than you do.

Have a shitty holidays.

 

[Paratus]

Just like when a drunk gets in his car after a night of heavy drinking. He isnt "choosing" to crash into a telephone pole but he does anyway and it's his fault. If he crashes into another car, it's also his fault. If he kills someone it's his fault. You don't blame the dead victim he killed! You blame the telephone pole.

Ever heard of accountability for your actions?

That my whole point about trying to have a child. To paraphrase an old saying about eggs and omelettes. You guys claim purposely breaking eggs is equivalent to murder (abortion) but if you want an omelet (a child) break as many as you like because you won’t be responsible for breaking those eggs.

so what say you? Are the parents responsible for choosing to perform an act that ends in spontaneous abortion or are they not responsible?

This would seem to put older people having sex in the same boat as drunk drivers due to what Paratus linked earlier.

fski gets it. Although I’d say even the lowest risk for teen parents is still unacceptably high to morally try and have a kid (if we accept that a fertilized egg is a child which science and religion disagree with)

 

[Storm-Chaser]

like Biden is a pedophile, COvid is a hoax, the vaccine is microchipped.

The vaccine is in fact the mark of the beast and yes, it is microchipped. As predicted in revelation.

My dog's shits make more intellectully accurate points than you do. They also have more decency than you do.

Have a shitty holidays.

Like I said, you are all hot under the collar because you lost in just about every aspect of debate here. Don't be a sore loser!

Ill close with this.. (you do the math, if you can)

 

[Storm-Chaser]

deflector shields on full!!

lol

 

[Franz316]

Jeez I leave the country for a couple months there seems to be a new nutcase in town I didn't think Tajbot could be outdone, but a religious nutcase imposing his god fairy's will upon us all will do it. Storm-Chaser, the Taliban called - they said to come home.

PS: mother teresa is no role model.. she did some pretty awful things in India.