Scott Adams: "I wish I had a government"

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

Dems had majority in 2007, Dems have majority today. If you want change, throw out incumbent parties.

Yeah, it's been 101 days since Obama took office. The world isn't better yet? Damn it, impeach him!

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

Wow, cluelessness grows exponentially.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

Personally, I think American management at the auto companies ruined then. They went for short term profit instead of long term reality that oil dependence was killing the country.

 

[JohnnyGage]

Originally posted by: Genx87
<blockquote>quote:
Meanwhile, the Democrats are poised for a big win during the next election based on their excellent track record of doing nothing for years. Doing nothing might not sound like a good strategy to you, but if you compare it to what happens when the government actually does something, you can make an argument.</blockquote>

lmao so true.

x2

 

[eleison]

Originally posted by: JohnnyGage

Originally posted by: Genx87
<blockquote>quote:
Meanwhile, the Democrats are poised for a big win during the next election based on their excellent track record of doing nothing for years. Doing nothing might not sound like a good strategy to you, but if you compare it to what happens when the government actually does something, you can make an argument.</blockquote>

lmao so true.

x2

yes, they did win.. Bush lost.. can we finally moveon.org? Its like some guy in a trench coat masturbating over a dead horse..

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

Personally, I think American management at the auto companies ruined then. They went for short term profit instead of long term reality that oil dependence was killing the country.

Oh, so could you do me a favor and list out the current makes and models of automobiles which burn fuel other than derived from oil? That'd be really helpful in proving your point.

Here's a neat fact: Trucks are still the number 1 selling vehicle today. Go figure, huh.......

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

Wow, cluelessness grows exponentially.

Correct, Obama staffs an automotive task force with people who have no automotive manufacturing experience, 20% of which don't even own automobiles--and they're tasked with "saving" the American automotive industry? Yes, cluelessness. We'll see how Chrysler's "surgical bankruptcy" turns out. I'll bet it won't be over in 30-60 days and I'll also bet that when it is all said and done Fiat will be the big winner and Chrysler will be a memory.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

Personally, I think American management at the auto companies ruined then. They went for short term profit instead of long term reality that oil dependence was killing the country.

Oh, so could you do me a favor and list out the current makes and models of automobiles which burn fuel other than derived from oil? That'd be really helpful in proving your point.

Here's a neat fact: Trucks are still the number 1 selling vehicle today. Go figure, huh.......

Huh? I think the fact there aren't any from the big three proves my point.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

Personally, I think American management at the auto companies ruined then. They went for short term profit instead of long term reality that oil dependence was killing the country.

Oh, so could you do me a favor and list out the current makes and models of automobiles which burn fuel other than derived from oil? That'd be really helpful in proving your point.

Here's a neat fact: Trucks are still the number 1 selling vehicle today. Go figure, huh.......

Huh? I think the fact there aren't any from the big three proves my point.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but your point seems to be that the Detroit 3 are in the dire straights they're in is because they still sell automobiles that run on gas, and that somehow, profitable vehicles are the cause of their current problems. Alas, I'm sure GM would be in a much better position today had they not made all that damned profit. :roll: In case you hadn't noticed, but for the exception of niche brands or product, every automobile company is having trouble selling cars today. Sales of the Prius are down 61% last month vs last year.

I mean what the fuck, why haven't the Detroit 3 invented cold fusion or warp drive? Damn them short sighted earth hating idiots!

 

[Vic]

Why bump this thread?

Anyway, government didn't do those things, people did. Govt, like religion, is just a fiction that people make up.

 

[IronWing]

Originally posted by: Vic
Why bump this thread?

Anyway, government didn't do those things, people did. Govt, like religion, is just a fiction that people make up.

This is true. In all but the most brutal regimes, all it takes is the slightest adjustment in perception to live in near total freedom.

 

[Dissipate]

Stop complaining everyone. It's all in the Social Contract. You just aren't reading the fine print.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Vic
Why bump this thread?

Anyway, government didn't do those things, people did. Govt, like religion, is just a fiction that people make up.

Aren't you an advocate of that fiction?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Vic
Why bump this thread?

Anyway, government didn't do those things, people did. Govt, like religion, is just a fiction that people make up.

Aren't you an advocate of that fiction?

Since when?

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Vic
Why bump this thread?

Anyway, government didn't do those things, people did. Govt, like religion, is just a fiction that people make up.

Aren't you an advocate of that fiction?

Since when?

Since you told me to vote for Obama and also said you believed in 'limited government.'

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CPA

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Looks like a lot of people felt the same way. Obama was the only chance any meaningful change could happen and the people took it.

And now the people have been taken.

I'm hearing stuff like, "The most productive first 100 days since Roosevelt."

Yep, doubling Bush's deficits and bringing ruin to our automotive industry is quite an accomplishment. Bush is an amateur compared to Barry when it comes to raining destruction and disaster down upon our country. Will Barry apologize to us when he's through?

Personally, I think American management at the auto companies ruined then. They went for short term profit instead of long term reality that oil dependence was killing the country.

Oh, so could you do me a favor and list out the current makes and models of automobiles which burn fuel other than derived from oil? That'd be really helpful in proving your point.

Here's a neat fact: Trucks are still the number 1 selling vehicle today. Go figure, huh.......

Huh? I think the fact there aren't any from the big three proves my point.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but your point seems to be that the Detroit 3 are in the dire straights they're in is because they still sell automobiles that run on gas, and that somehow, profitable vehicles are the cause of their current problems. Alas, I'm sure GM would be in a much better position today had they not made all that damned profit. :roll: In case you hadn't noticed, but for the exception of niche brands or product, every automobile company is having trouble selling cars today. Sales of the Prius are down 61% last month vs last year.

I mean what the fuck, why haven't the Detroit 3 invented cold fusion or warp drive? Damn them short sighted earth hating idiots!

Detroit does not sell cars for transportation. They sell dreams, fantasies and a predictably unsustainable fiction. They gorged on oil and blew up when oil and dream money got scarce. They sold us what they wanted us to demand via psychological manipulation via advertisement and now that dreams are folding they are in trouble. Had they focused on economy, utility, functionality, and technological advancement away from oil they would be much smaller but viable companies and America and the world would be better off both in climate and international relations. The warnings of ultimate disaster from oil dependence have been out there for at least 60 years.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Dissipate
Stop complaining everyone. It's all in the Social Contract. You just aren't reading the fine print.

I don't think I ever signed that contract. If I had, I'd have definitely insisted some clauses be stricken.

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Detroit does not sell cars for transportation. They sell dreams, fantasies and a predictably unsustainable fiction. They gorged on oil and blew up when oil and dream money got scarce. They sold us what they wanted us to demand via psychological manipulation via advertisement and now that dreams are folding they are in trouble. Had they focused on economy, utility, functionality, and technological advancement away from oil they would be much smaller but viable companies and America and the world would be better off both in climate and international relations. The warnings of ultimate disaster from oil dependence have been out there for at least 60 years.

You are amusing Moonie, I'll give you that. You still own that land barge caddie? I would probably stop short of calling you a hypocrite for further perpetuating our dependence on oil, but just barely. Without the profit generated by GM trucks, GM would have ceased to exist years ago. The only viable alternative to the internal combustion engine at this point in history is battery powered electric vehicle. Imagine the ecological catastrophy we would be facing today if every car on the road was run on 700 pounts of batteries instead of gas. How about storing the hazardous waste from those spent batteries in your back yard? How do you feel about doubling the number of nuclear power or coal plants to meet the demand for charging those batteries?

Be careful what you wish for.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Corn

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Detroit does not sell cars for transportation. They sell dreams, fantasies and a predictably unsustainable fiction. They gorged on oil and blew up when oil and dream money got scarce. They sold us what they wanted us to demand via psychological manipulation via advertisement and now that dreams are folding they are in trouble. Had they focused on economy, utility, functionality, and technological advancement away from oil they would be much smaller but viable companies and America and the world would be better off both in climate and international relations. The warnings of ultimate disaster from oil dependence have been out there for at least 60 years.

You are amusing Moonie, I'll give you that. You still own that land barge caddie? I would probably stop short of calling you a hypocrite for further perpetuating our dependence on oil, but just barely. Without the profit generated by GM trucks, GM would have ceased to exist years ago. The only viable alternative to the internal combustion engine at this point in history is battery powered electric vehicle. Imagine the ecological catastrophy we would be facing today if every car on the road was run on 700 pounts of batteries instead of gas. How about storing the hazardous waste from those spent batteries in your back yard? How do you feel about doubling the number of nuclear power or coal plants to meet the demand for charging those batteries?

Be careful what you wish for.

But Corn, the nightmare you project is exactly where we will be going now, in a weakened economic state and out of necessity, instead of making that change in the past when we had more resources and more time to research and to better prepare.

And of course I still have my Cad. I keep it parked right in front of my house so the neighbors can see how important I am.

We were stupid not to go there long ago. It was a gigantic mistake. And of course this is all just a part of a larger piece, the absolute need to be energy green and independent like Jimmy Carter wanted to do.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

I have seen the face of the government and it is us.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

I have seen the face of the government and it is us.

And when you put that together with the fact you hate yourself you will come to some understanding.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Vic
Why bump this thread?

Anyway, government didn't do those things, people did. Govt, like religion, is just a fiction that people make up.

Aren't you an advocate of that fiction?

Since when?

Since you told me to vote for Obama and also said you believed in 'limited government.'

I'd say you miss the mark wide. What I believe is that a certain, but preferably minimal, level of organization is ideal to human society.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: Dissipate

Originally posted by: Vic
Why bump this thread?

Anyway, government didn't do those things, people did. Govt, like religion, is just a fiction that people make up.

Aren't you an advocate of that fiction?

Since when?

Since you told me to vote for Obama and also said you believed in 'limited government.'

I'd say you miss the mark wide. What I believe is that a certain, but preferably minimal, level of organization is ideal to human society.

I can't imagine that the capacity for sophistication we see isn't hard wired.

 

[Dissipate]

Originally posted by: Vic

I'd say you miss the mark wide. What I believe is that a certain, but preferably minimal, level of organization is ideal to human society.

Your quest for certainty will end in failure. Sorry.