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cytg111

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Now I feel dirty...
Wonder when he is going to break out the 2A people again .. maybe they can do something about it...
 

Jhhnn

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Nope they're still going strong. For fun pull up any of their articles and read the comments section. It's the who's who of wacko conspiracy nuts in there.

I figure they made the graphic & wrote many of the comments themselves before they faked the poll.
 

Jhhnn

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It's interesting how people's assumptions play into it-

The former U.S. special envoy for Ukraine told House investigators on Thursday that he warned President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudolph W. Giuliani, that Giuliani was receiving untrustworthy information from Ukrainian political figures about former vice president Joe Biden and his son, according to two people familiar with his testimony.


Rudy didn't care if any of it was true. He just wanted to sell a conspiracy theory. Truth isn't truth, remember?
 

K1052

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Fuuucked up shit

Trump Envoys Pushed Ukraine to Commit to Investigations

Two of President Trump’s top envoys to Ukraine drafted a statement for the country’s new president in August that would have committed Ukraine to pursuing investigations sought by Mr. Trump into his political rivals, three people briefed on the effort said.

The statement was written with the awareness of a top aide to the Ukrainian president, as well as Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer and the de facto leader of a shadow campaign to push the Ukrainians to press ahead with investigations that could be of political benefit to Mr. Trump, according to one of the people briefed on it.

The statement would have committed Ukraine to investigating the energy company Burisma, which had employed Hunter Biden, the younger son of former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. And it would have called for the Ukrainian government to look into what Mr. Trump and his allies believe was interference by Ukrainians in the 2016 election in the United States to benefit Hillary Clinton.

The drafting of the statement, which came in the weeks after the July 25 phone call between Mr. Trump and Mr. Zelensky, was an effort to pacify Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani and normalize relations between the two countries as Ukraine faced continuing conflict with Russia. Mr. Sondland and Mr. Volker believed that Mr. Giuliani was “poisoning” Mr. Trump’s mind about Ukraine and that eliciting a public commitment from Mr. Zelensky to pursue the investigations would induce Mr. Trump to more fully support the new Ukrainian government, according to the people familiar with it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/politics/trump-ukraine.html?searchResultPosition=1
 
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K1052

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Rudy's made 10s of millions doing...something...in this part of the world. Perhaps his finances should be looked into.
 

fskimospy

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At this point I think it’s safe to say that a major goal of US foreign policy over the last year or so has been to enlist foreign powers to help in Trump’s re-election in violation of federal law. Considering the push to collude for election interference with such a wide range of countries it also makes conservative protests of no collusion for 2016 all the more laughable.

So, conservatives. Impeachment now?
 

cytg111

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And China back in June


Trumps recent "China should too..." was a preemptive leak... totally calculated move!!!
 

snoopy7548

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At this point I think it’s safe to say that a major goal of US foreign policy over the last year or so has been to enlist foreign powers to help in Trump’s re-election in violation of federal law. Considering the push to collude for election interference with such a wide range of countries it also makes conservative protests of no collusion for 2016 all the more laughable.

So, conservatives. Impeachment now?

Might make sense given Trump has shit all over our allies and cozied up to dictators.
 

K1052

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Politico says Rick Perry is going to resign. Unsure if this is connected but uh timing.
 

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Jesus man guys were making up statements to commit to knowingly worthless investigations just to pacify Trump. Apparently they were worried Rudy was poisoning him. What's Rudy getting out of all this? He said he would end up the hero. Maybe he's trying to play turncoat on Trump and take over the party.
 

K1052

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Jesus man guys were making up statements to commit to knowingly worthless investigations just to pacify Trump. Apparently they were worried Rudy was poisoning him. What's Rudy getting out of all this? He said he would end up the hero. Maybe he's trying to play turncoat on Trump and take over the party.

Rudy always says that his client (Trump) doesn’t pay him. He’s made $50M doing something. The last person who worked for Trump gratis was Manafort.
 

Jhhnn

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Jesus man guys were making up statements to commit to knowingly worthless investigations just to pacify Trump. Apparently they were worried Rudy was poisoning him. What's Rudy getting out of all this? He said he would end up the hero. Maybe he's trying to play turncoat on Trump and take over the party.

He gets to be the hero if Trump survives to win in 2020.
 

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It will be ironic if the guy who became politically popular pushing a conspiracy theory is removed from office for pushing another.
 

zinfamous

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Rudy always says that his client (Trump) doesn’t pay him. He’s made $50M doing something. The last person who worked for Trump gratis was Manafort.

lulz, dude(s) directly collecting "income" for Trump, to be distributed later, when convenient.

It's the only answer.
 

K1052

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The committee released a bunch of Volker’s text messages. It’s extremely clear that Rudy was directly pressuring State And Ukrainian officials to extract an investigation of Biden on Trump’s behalf from Ukraine in return for security aid. Also that meeting Trump would be contingent on Ukraine investigating their own supposed interference in 2016 on Hillary’s behalf.

Crazytown.
 
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K1052

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At this point I think it’s safe to say that a major goal of US foreign policy over the last year or so has been to enlist foreign powers to help in Trump’s re-election in violation of federal law. Considering the push to collude for election interference with such a wide range of countries it also makes conservative protests of no collusion for 2016 all the more laughable.

So, conservatives. Impeachment now?

The Republican position is about to become that using the office and power of the presidency to extort foreign nations into political collusion is not only proper but necessary and good.
 

Jhhnn

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The committee released a bunch of Volker’s text messages. It’s extremely clear that Rudy was directly pressuring State And Ukrainian officials to extract an investigation of Biden on Trump’s behalf from Ukraine in return for security aid.

Extortion is expected behavior from a transnational crime syndicate.
 

UNCjigga

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Rudy always says that his client (Trump) doesn’t pay him. He’s made $50M doing something. The last person who worked for Trump gratis was Manafort.

So the firm Giuliani partnered with to market “security consulting services” over the past 16 years could just be a Russian front. Apparently their website vanished when they found out they would be subpoenaed:

Late-day bombshells erupt as Trump impeachment inquiry gets underway - onr word -- Imploding!!
 
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emperus

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How is the FBI and Justice Department not investigating this stuff. The texts seem damning enough!
 

UNCjigga

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The Republican position is about to become that using the office and power of the presidency to extort foreign nations into political collusion is not only proper but necessary and good.

Realistically, Republicans are silent because they haven’t settled on the right character assassinations for Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi. They’ll have more to say when they can make it about them vs. defending Trump.
 

ivwshane

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Realistically, Republicans are silent because they haven’t settled on the right character assassinations for Schiff, Nadler and Pelosi. They’ll have more to say when they can make it about them vs. defending Trump.

Yep, while trump is busy trying to come up with a nickname for Schiff, Republicans are trying to find a scapegoat that isn’t laughably obvious. In the meantime they’ll play the, “I haven’t read all the information yet so no comment”, game while trump is busy trying to normalize his corrupt behavior.