Scalia's death already having positive outcomes: Court lets NC ruling stand

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theeedude

Lifer
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Don't put the cart before the horse. Better win the next election.

The horse is the American people. Look at the anti-corporatism sweeping the country, both right and left, despite one of the most corporate friendly SCOTUSes in history giving corporations an almost unlimited power to try to influence public opinion and elections. You can appoint 9 Scalias to the SCOTUS, and it will do the corporatists no good.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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Their constitutional duty is to ensure a conservative like scalia is appointed to replace him and stat quo preserved. If you don't like it, too bad. Obummer is powerless to do anything about it.

lolno. why would you ever think this? :D
 

MovingTarget

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Their constitutional duty is to ensure a conservative like scalia is appointed to replace him and stat quo preserved. If you don't like it, too bad. Obummer is powerless to do anything about it.

No president is required to nominate anybody to preserve the "status quo" of the court. If that were the case, Clarence Thomas should never have been nominated to replace Thurgood Marshall in 1991. Now THAT was a shift in the ideological makeup of the court.
 

Jhhnn

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Strange that race plays an "impermissible role" here when it's actually required to create "majority minority" districts at the same time. I have no real insight into this case but this "pick and choose when race is a factor or not" is stupid.


Don't be naive. Race is still and unfortunately a huge factor in all too many parts of the country. In some states, black people would be allowed no presence at the federal level, quite by design. And, let's face it, the SCOTUS is loathe to interfere in any redistricting situation that's half-assed reasonable and only marginally more inclined with Scalia gone. States need to throw it right in their face to get them to react.
 

Perknose

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Their constitutional duty is to ensure a conservative like scalia is appointed to replace him and stat quo preserved.

Wow, this is one of the most thoroughly ignorant posts I've seen in a while. D:
 

Jhhnn

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The luck of the draw gave Repubs 12 of the last 16 Justices appointed to the court. They exploited that to the max, appointing the most conservative & the youngest candidates who could pass muster, even trying one (Bork) who couldn't. The Court has been stacked for decades, serving their political ends rather well, maintaining & expanding the prerogatives of the financial elite whenever possible.

Now that luck has finally turned against them they're whining like spoiled little princesses & doubling down, praying for a Repub Prez in 2017. What they lack with this latest chickenshit stunt is the integrity to set their partisanship on the back burner & do the right thing for the Country, give Obama's nominee fair consideration.

Their whole angle of attack is extremely dishonest. Give the people a say? We already had it. We elected Obama. They can still have their say, too, so they need to get on with it when a nominee is presented. Anything else puts partisanship ahead of love of Country & the duty to serve it.
 

theeedude

Lifer
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GOP has no honor and no integrity. But hey, at least Scalia is not on the court anymore.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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The luck of the draw gave Repubs 12 of the last 16 Justices appointed to the court. They exploited that to the max, appointing the most conservative & the youngest candidates who could pass muster, even trying one (Bork) who couldn't. The Court has been stacked for decades, serving their political ends rather well, maintaining & expanding the prerogatives of the financial elite whenever possible.

Now that luck has finally turned against them they're whining like spoiled little princesses & doubling down, praying for a Repub Prez in 2017. What they lack with this latest chickenshit stunt is the integrity to set their partisanship on the back burner & do the right thing for the Country, give Obama's nominee fair consideration.

Their whole angle of attack is extremely dishonest. Give the people a say? We already had it. We elected Obama. They can still have their say, too, so they need to get on with it when a nominee is presented. Anything else puts partisanship ahead of love of Country & the duty to serve it.

If Bernie supporters had their way, we would all be paying 40% tax so everyone can get free shit. I'm glad the Repubs are ensuring that the SCOTUS won't liberally stacked with you nitwits.
 

nickqt

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If Bernie supporters had their way, we would all be paying 40% tax so everyone can get free shit. I'm glad the Repubs are ensuring that the SCOTUS won't liberally stacked with you nitwits.

If everyone is paying 40% tax, then no one is getting free shit, since, you know, they're paying 40% tax.

Nitwits, indeed.
 

Jhhnn

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If Bernie supporters had their way, we would all be paying 40% tax so everyone can get free shit. I'm glad the Repubs are ensuring that the SCOTUS won't liberally stacked with you nitwits.

Poor thing. If you can get over yourself you won't feel nearly so persecuted.

Or is all that rage & resentment too delicious to let go of?
 

Zstream

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If everyone is paying 40% tax, then no one is getting free shit, since, you know, they're paying 40% tax.



Nitwits, indeed.


You really believe that the USA will force everyone to pay tax? Ha!

If they continue to put pressure on the middle class, by additional taxes and outsourcing labor, that tax rate will be the least of all the issues we have.
 

Zstream

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Don't be naive. Race is still and unfortunately a huge factor in all too many parts of the country. In some states, black people would be allowed no presence at the federal level, quite by design. And, let's face it, the SCOTUS is loathe to interfere in any redistricting situation that's half-assed reasonable and only marginally more inclined with Scalia gone. States need to throw it right in their face to get them to react.


States need to act like states. I'm tired of an all or nothing argument. If the state does something legal, and by the process, let them do it and the repercussions will follow.

Like marijuana, taxes, etc...
 

nickqt

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You really believe that the USA will force everyone to pay tax? Ha!

If they continue to put pressure on the middle class, by additional taxes and outsourcing labor, that tax rate will be the least of all the issues we have.
Well, I know that Sanders, if elected, wouldn't be able to make "everyone" pay 40%, but the nitwits think that would happen, because FreeStuff™, or whatever talking point their thoughtleaders have shat into their skulls for their entire lives, every single day.
 

lopri

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What do conservatives think of the prospect of Anthony Kennedy losing his status as the swing vote? He is a pompous, self-aggrandizing judicial supremacist who wrote Citizens United and Obergefell (the same-sex marriage case). I've always thought conservatives hate him more than they do liberal judges. Same is probably true for liberals.
 

Jhhnn

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States need to act like states. I'm tired of an all or nothing argument. If the state does something legal, and by the process, let them do it and the repercussions will follow.

Like marijuana, taxes, etc...

The repercussions of 100 years of Jim Crow were what, other than the civil rights acts of the 60's?

50 years later, ol' Jim is trying to make a comeback tour.
 

trenchfoot

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Seems to me the Repubs in Congress have been obstructing anything and everything that Obama has put on the table since his being elected, that it's only natural for them to do the exact same thing with this judicial vacancy.

It's pretty much what they've been singularly obsessed with, and of course, it's all that their constituents have become accustomed to, expect from and then demand from them, all for the lack of any other purpose that these congressional clowns have been known for.

Just imagine if, at the present, the sitting president was a Repub being faced with the same "opportunity" and circumstances that Obama has been presented with. Would the Repubs in Congress cough up the same lame excuses as to why Obama shouldn't nominate someone just as they are now? Or would they be the consummate hypocrites by attempting to slobber as much grease on the skids to get another corporate owned justice on the bench before their own lame duck president leaves office? (Yes, that is a rather rhetorical question, isn't it?)
 

sportage

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I hope gerrymandering will take care of itself now that the high court has temporary regained its sanity.
What pissed me off is with the religious right, those damn evangelical christians, wanting a justice and a court that will impose their twisted perverted religious beliefs into every aspect of our lives.
I hope with Scalia's death, that trend can be stopped once and for all.

They cry about their precious "religious freedoms" being under attack.
Much like the KKK cried when the law told them it was illegal to hang innocent black men.
Evangelical Christians cry about the lack of prayer in school, or placing the Ten Commandments in every federal court house, or flying the Confederate flag.
Evangelical Christians cry they can not stop same sex marriage, or reverse Roe vs Wade, or impost regions litheness test on all federal court appointee.
They cry their poor religious freedoms are so trampled on, and to hell with this idea of separation between church and state.
Hell...
You'd think Evangelical Christians never knew what a church was even for, or how to pray without the government being involved.
They sure hate the government, but apparently government is their invisible link between prayer and reaching God's ear.

I'm damn tired of Evangelical Christians trying to run the show.
Crying how harmed and threatened they think are.
Forgetting what a church is for and why it is there in the first place.
Oh no...
They want to impose their religious beliefs into everyones life, throughout all of our government, everywhere from within our schools to within our bedrooms.
And between every woman's legs.

This is my gripe.
That Evangelical Christians feel they are so picked on, so mistreated.
Boo Hoo Hoo.
And "I" am a Christian, but not "their" kind of Christian, thank God.....
Their form of religious is exactly like the ISIS form of religion.
You either obey, or snip.... off with your head. ;)
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SP33Demon

Lifer
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Well, I know that Sanders, if elected, wouldn't be able to make "everyone" pay 40%, but the nitwits think that would happen, because FreeStuff™, or whatever talking point their thoughtleaders have shat into their skulls for their entire lives, every single day.
The only thing that would stop Sanders from raising taxes to 40% is a Repub congress. Otherwise, yes more FreeStuff™ for everyone that we (people with careers) don't want.
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
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Seems to me the Repubs in Congress have been obstructing anything and everything that Obama has put on the table since his being elected, that it's only natural for them to do the exact same thing with this judicial vacancy.

It's pretty much what they've been singularly obsessed with, and of course, it's all that their constituents have become accustomed to, expect from and then demand from them, all for the lack of any other purpose that these congressional clowns have been known for.

Just imagine if, at the present, the sitting president was a Repub being faced with the same "opportunity" and circumstances that Obama has been presented with. Would the Repubs in Congress cough up the same lame excuses as to why Obama shouldn't nominate someone just as they are now? Or would they be the consummate hypocrites by attempting to slobber as much grease on the skids to get another corporate owned justice on the bench before their own lame duck president leaves office? (Yes, that is a rather rhetorical question, isn't it?)
You're shocked that conservatives don't want the SCOTUS to turn liberal majority? You must be young. Both parties will obstruct to protect their own.
 

JSt0rm

Lifer
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The only thing that would stop Sanders from raising taxes to 40% is a Repub congress. Otherwise, yes more FreeStuff™ for everyone that we (people with careers) don't want.

I have a career. I probably already pay 40% taxes and I'd rather that money go to people, roads, medical care, research then blowing up brown people all around the world.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
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I have a career. I probably already pay 40% taxes and I'd rather that money go to people, roads, medical care, research then blowing up brown people all around the world.

But those brown people live where I want to build another Club Med for me and my handful of #elitemastersoftheuniverse friends!

That is me paying taxes for my benefit!

:colbert:
 

Genx87

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Why did Obama vote to filibuster a supreme court justice when he was in senate, and now has a problem with filibustering justices?

Why was Schumer against Bush nominating justices at any point in his presidency, but now pushing for a last minute shot?

Political bullshit. That is why. Also with the advent of video recording + 24 hour news and social media we get to watch as all the people were for delaying nominations in the past but are for it now are busted. And vice versa.

Newest victim is good ole Uncle Joe.

https://www.facebook.com/CSPAN/videos/10154179745680579/
 

FerrelGeek

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Would be hilariously ironic if it turned out Scalia died from a viagra induced heart attack, during a gay tryst for V-day.

Such hate from the party of love and tolerance. You represent much of why I could never be a lib.

Strange that race plays an "impermissible role" here when it's actually required to create "majority minority" districts at the same time. I have no real insight into this case but this "pick and choose when race is a factor or not" is stupid.

It's typical lib hypocrisy on display. Another reason why I could never be a lib.
 

alien42

Lifer
Nov 28, 2004
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Such hate from the party of love and tolerance. You represent much of why I could never be a lib.

you really don't get the irony here do you? the Republicans are supposed to be the religious party of love and tolerance yet they have been fighting every such law for decades now.


It's typical lib hypocrisy on display. Another reason why I could never be a lib.

once again, the irony is so thick you could run right into it. you can't be a "lib" because of hypocrisy, yet it is Republican politicians who are regularly caught doing the exact opposite of what they say and how they vote.