SC GOP Activist Posts Remark Disparaging First Lady

[Andrew1990]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Paddington
Yeah, but you gotta admit though, Obama's wife is butt-ass ugly. I threw the ass in there for extra emphasis.

And no, that's not a racist comment.

That's your opinion. Most people don't agree.

I agree with him. Not to my liking, although I am known to favor asian womenz, lol.




But really, why do people get all up in arms over stupid jokes like these. They happen so what.

 

[Paddington]

Is it OK for me to describe Michelle's Texas sized ass as being as wide as a Buick? I just want to make sure that's not racist. I noticed this when she was visiting Europe and took up as much real estate as 4 or 5 Sarkozy's.

 

[nobodyknows]

Originally posted by: n yusef

Originally posted by: Paddington
Yeah, but you gotta admit though, Obama's wife is butt-ass ugly. I threw the ass in there for extra emphasis.

And no, that's not a racist comment.

That's your opinion. Most people don't agree.

Yeah, she's a regular Jackie O.

 

[mect]

I hate people like this. Depass shows he's Class A scum. I agree with the OP article that it is also unfortunate because it takes away the ability of conservatives to talk about things that really matter. But first and foremost, it is just plain hurtful for no reason. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with a good joke about someone, but these kinds of cheap shots aren't clever, and go beyond the line of decency.

 

[sandorski]

Hollywood needs to get Nuked so they too can be "Real" Americans. They'll glow in the dark though and end up being the only "Real" Americans due to their new superior trait.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: VashHT
My gf told me the same thing (Michelle is ugly and looks like a gorilla) a few months ago. Maybe some people think it's true, I think she's pretty cute though I don't get it.

I can even accept that comment in a private context to a friend, if it was meant at face value and with no racist overtones.

But making it in a public manner is another matter entirely. Sorry, you need to have some sensitivity to the race issue on that. There's a public culture affected by public speech.

You need to not say anything you like as a public speaker just because the urge hits. You might find her attractive and imagine hot sexual acts. Do you say that in the speech, too?

 

[CU]

How may years must pass before you can say "I'm sure it's just one of "x's" ancestors" referencing a gorilla and "x" being an African American till it is not racist. Do you have problem is "x" was a European or Asian. I don't see a problem with saying that if "x" is anyone Asian, African, Indian, European etc. if "x" believes in evolution. It is a true statement based on their on beliefs. Why do people assume someone is racist when the sentence could be taken in a non-racist way. He said it was in reference to her speech on evolution. Why take it in a bad way. Just to cause trouble or start something? People need to stop looking at things in the worst possible way an not take everything to heart.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Paddington
Is it OK for me to describe Michelle's Texas sized ass as being as wide as a Buick? I just want to make sure that's not racist. I noticed this when she was visiting Europe and took up as much real estate as 4 or 5 Sarkozy's.

It might make you a boor, shallow, a cad, rude, unchivalrous, trailer-trash culture, misogynistic, insensitive, blind - but I don't see it as racist. Hope you are relieved.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: spidey07
Wait a second!

How do we know he was talking about Michelle Obama? The comment was just Michelle.

He has specifically admitted he was talking about her.

Leave it to Spidey to defend an obviously racist remark. :roll: Spidey07=FAIL.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: CU
How may years must pass before you can say "I'm sure it's just one of "x's" ancestors" referencing a gorilla and "x" being an African American till it is not racist. Do you have problem is "x" was a European or Asian. I don't see a problem with saying that if "x" is anyone Asian, African, Indian, European etc. if "x" believes in evolution. It is a true statement based on their on beliefs. Why do people assume someone is racist when the sentence could be taken in a non-racist way. He said it was in reference to her speech on evolution. Why take it in a bad way. Just to cause trouble or start something? People need to stop looking at things in the worst possible way an not take everything to heart.

I think you are well-intentioned - but not everyone is, and so we try to have some respect for people when there's been abuse of things like racism to the degree there has been.

If you don't, you get the racism cropping up again - suddenly people making the connection between Obama and fried chieck and watermelon (hey, so he likes fried chicken, so do I, what's the big deal?) that is the same as racism, with the same sneer and hate and a smug little 'got away with it' code word language instead of the direct "Obama is a sub-human N*****" type of language.

It's really not that hard. You can make all the legitimate, all the critical comments you want, just stear clear of ones that have the overtones of the racism abuses.

If you can't criticize Obama without the tiny sliver of things not to say over race, you need to learn. Even a (animal name here) like you can learn to.

How long, you ask? Until the racism has been stamped out enough that the reference mean nothing to anyone more than my slur against Byzantines as being like seagulls.

 

[mect]

Originally posted by: CU
How may years must pass before you can say "I'm sure it's just one of "x's" ancestors" referencing a gorilla and "x" being an African American till it is not racist. Do you have problem is "x" was a European or Asian. I don't see a problem with saying that if "x" is anyone Asian, African, Indian, European etc. if "x" believes in evolution. It is a true statement based on their on beliefs. Why do people assume someone is racist when the sentence could be taken in a non-racist way. He said it was in reference to her speech on evolution. Why take it in a bad way. Just to cause trouble or start something? People need to stop looking at things in the worst possible way an not take everything to heart.

My problem is that it has the potential to be interpreted as being racist. The same problem I had with Letterman's joke. If it has the potential to be interpreted a certain way, and the potential is fairly obvious, then the joke is being told with either the intent of being racist, the intent of ambiguity, or in spite of ambiguity. None of these are acceptable to me. Once civilization has reached the point the thought wouldn't occur, then it becomes acceptable. I don't see how it is a big deal. There are plenty of jokes that can be made without having to worry about such things. The only reason I can see for telling these types of jokes is to intentionally breach this boundary.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone

Originally posted by: spidey07
Wait a second!

How do we know he was talking about Michelle Obama? The comment was just Michelle.

He has specifically admitted he was talking about her.

Leave it to Spidey to defend an obviously racist remark. :roll: Spidey07=FAIL.

Yeah, I don't have a hair trigger when it comes to being offended - I like a lot of very irreverent humor, including Howard Stern. I just don't see this as very defensible. I was discussing it at work with a colleague who is a diehard Republican. He was totally disgusted by the remark and suggested that this guy should resign from any open affiliation with the party.

 

[heyheybooboo]

"" Forget it, Jake. It's South Carolina. ""

 

[nageov3t]

intentionally racist or not, the person should have known better and erred on the side of caution.

 

[CU]

Originally posted by: mect
Once civilization has reached the point the thought wouldn't occur, then it becomes acceptable.

Originally posted by: Craig234
How long, you ask? Until the racism has been stamped out enough that the reference mean nothing to anyone more than my slur against Byzantines as being like seagulls.

So, the people being offended are the ones that make it racist because the though comes into their minds. Why don't the offended just stop letting it offend them. Like I said people need to just stop taking everything to heart and looking for the worst. The people that do are the ones with the problem not the people that are saying things that can be taken a million different ways.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Topic: SC GOP Activist Posts Remark Disparaging First Lady

I think you just turned someone none of us knew existed into a famous person.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: CU

Originally posted by: mect
Once civilization has reached the point the thought wouldn't occur, then it becomes acceptable.

Originally posted by: Craig234
How long, you ask? Until the racism has been stamped out enough that the reference mean nothing to anyone more than my slur against Byzantines as being like seagulls.

So, the people being offended are the ones that make it racist because the though comes into their minds. Why don't the offended just stop letting it offend them. Like I said people need to just stop taking everything to heart and looking for the worst. The people that do are the ones with the problem not the people that are saying things that can be taken a million different ways.

No. It's racist because of the history making it racist, and the person choosing to say it given that history.

Obviously, if someone had lived in a cave since birth and didn't know the history, they wouoldn't know not to say it; they could then be told how big an oops it was, and say 'sorry, didn't know'. But go find me a public official who is unaware of the black-Simian racism history, that it's a racist thing to say.

You are trying to blame the victim. You are being obtuse.

I tire of the people who pull this crap - it's so often 14 year olds explaining how 'i love you' means a cigarette in England, so it's ok to say ha ha ha. Idiocy.

I speak to you as a reasonable person - you come back too many times with BS blaming the victim here, and that can change.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Topic: SC GOP Activist Posts Remark Disparaging First Lady

I think you just turned someone none of us knew existed into a famous person.

1. Look up infamous vs. famous.

2. He did not 'make him famous (or infamous)', he reinforced the standard against this.

 

[Red Dawn]

I think the Republicans should make this guy and his views more prominent.

 

[EndGame]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: Paddington
Is it OK for me to describe Michelle's Texas sized ass as being as wide as a Buick? I just want to make sure that's not racist. I noticed this when she was visiting Europe and took up as much real estate as 4 or 5 Sarkozy's.

It might make you a boor, shallow, a cad, rude, unchivalrous, trailer-trash culture, misogynistic, insensitive, blind - but I don't see it as racist. Hope you are relieved.

Might all be but, speaking purely on the subject of the first ladies behind, caboose, buttocks, etc., he is most definately correct!

 

[mect]

Originally posted by: CU

Originally posted by: mect
Once civilization has reached the point the thought wouldn't occur, then it becomes acceptable.

Originally posted by: Craig234
How long, you ask? Until the racism has been stamped out enough that the reference mean nothing to anyone more than my slur against Byzantines as being like seagulls.

So, the people being offended are the ones that make it racist because the though comes into their minds. Why don't the offended just stop letting it offend them. Like I said people need to just stop taking everything to heart and looking for the worst. The people that do are the ones with the problem not the people that are saying things that can be taken a million different ways.

No, because it isn't just the victims who make it racist. There are a lot of non-black people offended by this type of language because of its historical significance. They are not the victims. I'm not talking about things that can be taken a million different ways. I see no problem in that. The problem is when there are only a few possible ways, or even just one, and that one way is inappropriate. I'm not calling for this guy to be criminally prosecuted. I'm just saying the guy is an ass, and I won't be listening to his show (not that I ever did).

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor
Topic: SC GOP Activist Posts Remark Disparaging First Lady

I think you just turned someone none of us knew existed into a famous person.

You like and respect him that much, eh?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Fern

GOP activist Rusty DePass

Never heard of him.

If the Repubs were as busy printing out stupid stuff said by unknowns from the other side this forum would be flooded.

Who really cares what this person said?

Fern

Well first of all, I'm pretty sure Republicans are doing the same thing...

But you're partially right, who really cares what THIS guy said? I suspect some (most?) of the intent is to bash the entire Republican party by association. But part of it might be about asking the question of just how mainstream racism still is in certain parts of America. If this guy is a particularly bad example of Republicans in South Carolina or the country as a whole, that's fine...but he might not be.

That aside, I think his comment about "real Americans" is far more objectionable...and I KNOW it's mainstream in the Republican party. THAT was not a verbal misstep by a random loon, that was a pretty clear statement of what would appear to be a core part of the GOP platform. If you have to drive an hour or more to get to a dirt road, you're not a real American. The fact that Grand Dragon boy here is spouting that BS too should probably make mainstream Republicans reconsider their position on "real America".

 

[JD50]

Who?

 

[imported_inspire]

What would be really funny is if Barack called this dude out. I wanna see Obama throw down on this clown.