• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

SB-E C2 stepping on Jan. 20th (Rumor)

Page 4 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Topweasel said:
Sound has been working through VM's for a while now.
Click to expand...

No doubt! Multi-channel and all that, though? Again, if you have linkage I'd love to hear/read about it 🙂

If On-Live can do it over the internet, we should be able to do it in our homes!
 
blckgrffn said:
No doubt! Multi-channel and all that, though? Again, if you have linkage I'd love to hear/read about it 🙂

If On-Live can do it over the internet, we should be able to do it in our homes!
Click to expand...

Ran into the move when reading of a thread of a guy trying to make a computer powerful enough for him and his wife to play games on at the same time. One of the ideas became a setup with two cards so that the second could be passed through to a cheap dumb terminal. That lead me to this http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1668281 read a few other people trying to accomplish the same thing. Avlin has put some real time into it. Said he couldn't get BF3 up and running but everything else was pretty good.

Since 2011 is so expensive, the recommended setup be something like a FX6k or FX8k, Thuban if you get a chance.
 
Last edited:
Topweasel said:
Ran into the move when reading of a thread of a guy trying to make a computer powerful enough for him and his wife to play games on at the same time. One of the ideas became a setup with two cards so that the second could be passed through to a cheap dumb terminal. That lead me to this http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1668281 read a few other people trying to accomplish the same thing. Avlin has put some real time into it. Said he couldn't get BF3 up and running but everything else was pretty good.

Since 2011 is so expensive, the recommended setup be something like a FX6k or FX8k, Thuban if you get a chance.
Click to expand...

Mmm, I see they are using something other than ESXi. That makes a lot more sense.

Xen. Is that a type 1 hypervisor or no? I may have to do some more research, thanks!
 
blckgrffn said:
Mmm, I see they are using something other than ESXi. That makes a lot more sense.

Xen. Is that a type 1 hypervisor or no? I may have to do some more research, thanks!
Click to expand...

They are using Vmware as well. Avlin just happened to have success with Xen. Seems Those two are the only ones that really work. Vmware seems to refuse to certify any VGA adapters and only seems to put in effort for nics and SCSI/SAS adapters. But people have gotten them running. Xen seems to be pushing the PCI-E VGA pass-through as a use case.

Xenserver seems to be a level 1.
 
Topweasel said:
They are using Vmware as well. Avlin just happened to have success with Xen. Seems Those two are the only ones that really work. Vmware seems to refuse to certify any VGA adapters and only seems to put in effort for nics and SCSI/SAS adapters. But people have gotten them running. Xen seems to be pushing the PCI-E VGA pass-through as a use case.

Xenserver seems to be a level 1.
Click to expand...

Well, that's Xenserver, is that the same tech packaged under the Xen packages that can be used in Debian? It wouldn't surprise me, it would be like Hyper-V then.

Is that ESX or Workstation/Player?

With ESX you don't have any sort of local console... This is by design, ie getting a hold of the host computer should in no way grant you access to VMs. That's the way it works.
 
Last edited:
blckgrffn said:
Well, that's Xenserver, is that the same tech packaged under the Xen packages that can be used in Debian? It wouldn't surprise me, it would be like Hyper-V then.

Is that ESX or Workstation/Player?

With ESX you don't have any sort of local console... This is by design, ie getting a hold of the host computer should in no way grant you access to VMs. That's the way it works.
Click to expand...
Yes, XenServer and Xen in Linux are the same thing. It runs on bare metal, so I guess that is what you mean by a level 1 hypervisor.
 
blckgrffn said:
Well, that's Xenserver, is that the same tech packaged under the Xen packages that can be used in Debian? It wouldn't surprise me, it would be like Hyper-V then.

Is that ESX or Workstation/Player?

With ESX you don't have any sort of local console... This is by design, ie getting a hold of the host computer should in no way grant you access to VMs. That's the way it works.
Click to expand...

Correct. Still needed a thin or dumb client to actually run the VM with the PCI-E pass-through. But this would have lots of benifits. For example having the big ass machine be stored in a closet while using a a much more heat and power friendly system in the office. Also having the big ass system be able to run all of the OS's including the game system without having a game or driver crash killing all of the other VM's. In Theory you wouldn't need much more then a Nettop to pull this off. It could also be shared in the sense that anyone wanting to play, for example portal could pull up this system, sure one at a time, but not much different then an Xbox in that sense, but not tied to a single location. Also you can use it for multiple systems, as long as you have another GPU.

To much effort for someone like myself, where the home computer is 75% gaming anyways. But I could see how fun it would be if I had the time and the kickass machine to spare, to go through all of this hassle, and centralize everything and just build up a cheap $300-$400 box for my room. As is this is more of an enthusiast movement then an actual recommended option.
 
Last edited:
Topweasel said:
Correct. Still needed a thin or dumb client to actually run the VM with the PCI-E pass-through. But this would have lots of benifits. For example having the big ass machine be stored in a closet while using a a much more heat and power friendly system in the office. Also having the big ass system be able to run all of the OS's including the game system without having a game or driver crash killing all of the other VM's. In Theory you wouldn't need much more then a Nettop to pull this off. It could also be shared in the sense that anyone wanting to play, for example portal could pull up this system, sure one at a time, but not much different then an Xbox in that sense, but not tied to a single location. Also you can use it for multiple systems, as long as you have another GPU.
Click to expand...


See - VMware View.

The issue still going to be handling anything higher than stereo sounds and getting good enough 3D performance via RDP. Or getting the "Console" to be responsive enough. The console doesn't seem that speedy, but I have yet to try this...

Dealing with VMs all day at work, thinking of doing this at home wearies me 😛
 
blckgrffn said:
See - VMware View.

The issue still going to be handling anything higher than stereo sounds and getting good enough 3D performance via RDP. Or getting the "Console" to be responsive enough. The console doesn't seem that speedy, but I have yet to try this...

Dealing with VMs all day at work, thinking of doing this at home wearies me 😛
Click to expand...

Yeah touched on that in my edit. Until it gets a lot more support and turned into more of an install and go option, I wouldn't touch it. But I mean for a lot of guys they are turning there home network into full on work domains. This would just be more of a side excursion into simplifying the hardware needed for the rest of network.
 
Topweasel said:
Correct. Still needed a thin or dumb client to actually run the VM with the PCI-E pass-through. But this would have lots of benifits. For example having the big ass machine be stored in a closet while using a a much more heat and power friendly system in the office. Also having the big ass system be able to run all of the OS's including the game system without having a game or driver crash killing all of the other VM's. In Theory you wouldn't need much more then a Nettop to pull this off. It could also be shared in the sense that anyone wanting to play, for example portal could pull up this system, sure one at a time, but not much different then an Xbox in that sense, but not tied to a single location. Also you can use it for multiple systems, as long as you have another GPU.

To much effort for someone like myself, where the home computer is 75% gaming anyways. But I could see how fun it would be if I had the time and the kickass machine to spare, to go through all of this hassle, and centralize everything and just build up a cheap $300-$400 box for my room. As is this is more of an enthusiast movement then an actual recommended option.
Click to expand...
Just by the way, if you have a second graphics card, you can use the same computer as the terminal.
 
Thanks for the replies to my question. It sounds like I don't really need VT-d for what I'll be using virtualization for.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top