Saw my first GT350 today

[LOCO LAPTOP]

I don't see how your SS could win. It's got a LS3 with 415HP/415TQ. Hell a stock 2016 Mustang GT can beat that unless yours is really "Special" which I highly doubt it.

 

[DaTT]

I'd bet on that 7000 rpm 625 Hp 70Z BBC SR with a Muncie and a 12 Bolt Posi. You gotta be a driver because she's a brute to handle.

There was a Viper in My rear View.

What ever happened to the Op's 2016 Ford 350 Shelby GT ;o)

I love the old Jag XKE and Dodge 340 Mag Challenger for power and handling - But sadly they were RUST BUCKETS and probably 2 of the most expensive classic rides today.

My favorite engine is the 68 Chevy SBC LT1 327 with the forged Large journal crank. Capable of 8000 rpm and 425Hp on pump gas.

Not my GT350, just saw one on the road for the first time.

However, once I get my hands on a 2013/14 GT500, I'll gladly take you to school....right after the Malibu does. :biggrin:

 

[BUTCH1]

I'm not sure I would be able to tell the difference either. It's a Mustang with stripes... can't swing a dead cat without hitting one of those.

Fair enough but give Ford a bit of credit for keeping a car first released in '64-'65 still viable and now very fun and affordable to own. The same could have been said about the VW bug back when it first came out, Detroit scoffed, "no one will buy these tiny things", they could not have been more wrong.

 

[AdamK47]

I don't see how your SS could win. It's got a LS3 with 415HP/415TQ. Hell a stock 2016 Mustang GT can beat that unless yours is really "Special" which I highly doubt it.

No it doesn't.

 

[KentState]

I don't see how your SS could win. It's got a LS3 with 415HP/415TQ. Hell a stock 2016 Mustang GT can beat that unless yours is really "Special" which I highly doubt it.

Why the doubt new guy?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Fair enough but give Ford a bit of credit for keeping a car first released in '64-'65 still viable and now very fun and affordable to own. The same could have been said about the VW bug back when it first came out, Detroit scoffed, "no one will buy these tiny things", they could not have been more wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I love the Mustang, I've owned 2 of them in the past.

I think the latest one looks fantastic.

 

[Z15CAM]

625 Hp isn't much. More like 700 at 6500 rpm+ and almost twice the torque of your Malibu mill - Big down fall is not the suspension but rather the weight of that Big Iron SR OEM GM mill but there are aluminum aftermarket alternatives.

Nothing wrong with a 5800 rpm 425 Hp LS3 MKIV with 781 heads - If That's what you got - Except they are heavy.

Apparently you are no wrencher, mechanic or driver for that part.

Faulkner BBC Cam Gear Drive ;o)

You can easily pull, gap and change the plugs in 20 minutes or break down that Holley.

73 MKIV LS3 781 Jenken Spec'd Heads Manley Ultra Lite 2.23/1.96 Valves Lunati Cam and Crower SR Hippo Lifters, NASCAR 830 Holley Annular Dp Carb - Everything is forged.

4 Sec's to 60 Mph and a 10 Secs Quarter miler to 123 Mph - Top end is around 170 Mph and there is no way a modern ride can compare let alone a Malibu save for a Corvette or Viper.

Not too shabby for 1970.

Who cares if it does not handle that great (If you are a driver) but you can buy Road Racing suspensions for her and in the long run probably cost less that Malibu and will still walk around that that Malibu in Stock GM OEM 70Z configuration (If you can find one) with the 375 Hp 350 LT1 and a 4:10 12 Posi and a M22 Manual Tranny. Yes you could order one with the M22 and 4 Series 12 Bolt Carrier. Mine had it with a 4:10 Posi.

Buy the way even compared to today's standards is a great cruiser on the HWY and gets descent gas mileage for 460 Ci's.

Don't get me wrong I loved the 70 Boss 302 but a Challenger 340 MAG would beat it in acceleration and handling but that AMC Javelin was a Devil.

As said, the 1968 Large Journal Forged crank LT1 327 Mill was and probably is one of the best Mills ever built by GM.

 

[KentState]

Wow, it has 1200 ft/lbs of torque? That's impressive.


Dude, you are getting trolled hard with his "Malibu".

 

[Z15CAM]

Wow, it has 1200 ft/lbs of torque? That's impressive.

You are twisting words and out to lunch and every one knows there no way in Hell that a modern Malibu will out run a Modified 70Z perhaps the modern Shelby can in corners but not in acceleration.

Lets see you PIC's of the cars you have driven and engines you have built and then I will consider you a competent adversary.

 

[KentState]

You are twisting words and out to lunch and every one knows there no way in Hell that a modern Malibu will out run a Modified 70Z perhaps the modern Shelby can in corners but not in acceleration.

Lets see you PIC's of the cars you have driven and engines you have built and then I will consider you a competent adversary.

First, his car is not a Malibu and you can even tell from the pictures. Second, if you would spend a few seconds and look at his prior posts, you would know that he his car isn't stock.

I'm also not going to hijack this thread with pictures of my car and engine, but feel free to find my prior posts if you want to see my current build.

 

[Z15CAM]

[QUOTElook at his prior posts][/QUOTE]

Not this post is it!!!!!

God you Puppies drive me crazy.

 

[KentState]

Not this post is it!!!!!

God you Puppies drive me crazy.

English please. It's even impossible to quote your posts since you fail at forums as well.

 

[Z15CAM]

Maybe under 60mph you can steer a Malibu with the rear wheels but they handle like a 68 Volvo up to 120 mph - Corner Great but for pointing and using the throttle steering with the rear wheels is different at speeds over 120Mph and that's where the driver comes in and you need a few Hale Mary's and I'm not Catholic.

I beginning to doubt if any of you you Puppies have ever twisted a Wrench or have driven to your limit.

The fastest I've even driven was in a 1982 Suzuki GSX 1100 Katana at approx 140 Mph then a W2 11:1 1972 Challenger 340 MAG (Light Rust Bucket, Great handler) at approx 170 Mph then a - Good enough for me.

 

[LevelSea]

Maybe under 60mph you can steer a Malibu with the rear wheels but they handle like a 68 Volvo upto 120 mph - Corner Great but for pointing and using the throttle steering with the rear wheels is different at speeds over 120Mph and that's where the driver comes in and you need a few Hale Mary's and I'm not Catholic.

I beginning to doubt if any of you you Puppies have ever twisted a Wrench or have driven to your limit.

Twisted a wrench? God, you're worse than the VTEC YO! ricers.

 

[Z15CAM]

Twisted a wrench? God, you're worse than the VTEC YO! ricers.

Finally a Member Car Enthusiasts is getting my point ;o)

Man I would loved to have driven a Mc Learn or an Enzo;

Talking about Ricer's the 71 to 73 Toyota Crown was KING lest you forget a Z240 with a 327 in her.

I agree Ford has kept the Mustang Style where as Chev and Chrysler has debouched the Camaro and the Challenger design. If you are a wrencher you gotta love the old Cleveland's.

 

[AdamK47]

So it's settled then. You do agree that my common every day FWD Turbo 2.0L 2015 Malibu can take your Camaro in any sort of race, right?

 

[core2slow]

My money is on the Malibu as well. There's a reason you don't see too many of them in the streets, it's because the vast majority of drivers out there can't handle its power in a straight line, let alone around corners. The camaro with its old tech will just sit there spinning its rear tires like all the useless AMG cars out there.

 

[DaTT]

4 Sec's to 60 Mph and a 10 Secs Quarter miler to 123 Mph - Top end is around 170 Mph and there is no way a modern ride can compare let alone a Malibu save for a Corvette or Viper.

Modern...and half the price of a Viper.

Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.9 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 12.8 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 17.6 sec
Zero to 160 mph: 20.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.0 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 11.1 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 9.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.8 sec @ 125 mph
Top speed (mfr�s est): 202 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.00 g

 

[DaTT]

Is it just me, or does Z15CAM have an Alky feel about him. Replace anything he says that has to do with older engines/cars with M3, and it's spot on. lol :biggrin:

 

[Z15CAM]

I loved the 1964 2 Dr Coupe Ford HT with the V8 260 - Probably one of the first Muscle Pony Cars.

Eat your heart out Mustang lovers - Not that Ford didn't build a Hi-Plains drifter back then but what &^%$ are you Puppies talking about that a Modern Mustang can beat a 70Z with a 625Hp+ 7000rpm Modified LS3 MKIV.

One of my favorites was the 62 Canadian 2 Dr HT 325Hp 4BBL 327 Pontiac Parisienne with a Muncie and Posi 12 Bolt (Not that I didn't appreciate the GTO). Fair sized car but nothing could touch it = 130mph+. That's if you could hold it without the bios tires melting off.

You have to be a driver to know what I'm attempting to say and that New Shelby Cobra 350GT really isn't any different.

Someday your gonna call it quits (That's if you're still alive undoubtedly feeling the pain off your need for speed, haven't killed anybody (Could not imagine living with that guilt). Been there, survived and fortunate to have never hurt someone over racing. I've survived with a few broken bones and the still ache to remind me in my old age.

Gotta say the the new Mustang looks great and is sized right. I don't like the the new Camaro (In spite of the New GM Powerful Mills)and the Challenger is rather a question.

Sad part is that you can't Wrench these Modern Cars and they are practicably driver less.

 

[SSSnail]

I'd bet on that 7000 rpm 625 Hp 70Z BBC SR with a Muncie and a 12 Bolt Posi. You gotta be a driver because she's a brute to handle.

There was a Viper in My rear View.

What ever happened to the Op's 2016 Ford 350 Shelby GT ;o)

I love the old Jag XKE and Dodge 340 Mag Challenger for power and handling - But sadly they were RUST BUCKETS and probably 2 of the most expensive classic rides today.

My favorite engine is the 68 Chevy SBC LT1 327 with the forged Large journal crank. Capable of 8000 rpm and 425Hp on pump gas.

Tell you what, we'll take that up on a mountain road of my choice, against my shitty 10 years old BMW.

 

[Z15CAM]

Tell you what, we'll take that up on a mountain road of my choice, against my shitty 10 years old BMW.

Finally a Rally Driver:

I love the BMW. Had a 73 2002 for a while - What a sweet ride and under estimately fast, light sporty on pave and easy to work on. Wanted a TR6 - LOL

Always wanted a 333i (Luxury). Couldn't afford so I bought an 84 Volvo GL with the EFI ME21 V/W Engine. Screw Audi back then but a 74 Volvo GL or Toyota Crown reigned. Yes I raced Rally - My favorite.

I still own that 84 Volvo GL and use it a dally driver. Has about 400,000 miles on her and she's no wimp compared to performance and gas miles by to days standards and will cruise at 100mph+ getting 40 mpg - Easy to work on as a wrencher.

Trust that 350GT or Malibu is still on the road 46 years later ;o)

 

[AdamK47]

Sad part is that you can't Wrench these Modern Cars and they are practicably driver less.

The small block LS is the most popular modifiable enthusiast V8 engines ever produced.

 

[Z15CAM]

Quote:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.5 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 7.9 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 12.8 sec
Zero to 150 mph: 17.6 sec
Zero to 160 mph: 20.9 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 4.0 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 11.1 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 9.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 11.8 sec @ 125 mph
Top speed (mfr�s est): 202 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 155 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 1.00 g
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DaTT: You're insane believing the latest 350GT or Malibu is a Mc Learn with the spec's you have posted.

Even so at a standing ¼-mile: 11.8 sec @ 125 mph a 7000 rpm MKIV in a a 70 Camaro Body can do it in the 10's.

I preferred to keep my 70Z in the mid 11's what ever the top speed in regards to straight line performance Vs Road Racing.

Really less then a second in the 1/4 is not worth arguing who is the better driver.

The 70Z with BBC was front end heavy compared to a 340 Challenger (Better handing on the top end and could accelerate just as fast). Give me an old 140 Volvo with a SBC 327 and Jag XKE suspension and go FYS.

Of course you gotta have been a Wrencher back then when we could buy 120 Octane Sunoco AV Gas at the pumps. How could that be because I was brought up in Northern Ontario and Bush Pilots supplying Mine sights were in demand.

To the OP by all means buy that 350GT but for the money except her to be blown away by a 69 or 70 wrencher with a Camaro, Cuda or Challenger or a Boss and to say the least an AMC Javelin and you gotta watch out for them old Volvo's and BMW's and you don't want a Toyota Crown eating up your ass.

 

[DaTT]

DaTT: You're insane believing the latest 350GT or Malibu is a Mc Learn with the spec's you have posted.

Even so at a standing ¼-mile: 11.8 sec @ 125 mph a 7000 rpm MKIV in a a 70 Camaro Body can do it in the 10's.

I preferred to keep my 70Z in the mid 11's what ever the top speed in regards to straight line performance Vs Road Racing.

Really less then a second in the 1/4 is not worth arguing who is the better driver.

The 70Z with BBC was front end heavy compared to a 340 Challenger (Better handing on the top end and could accelerate just as fast). Give me an old 140 Volvo with a SBC 327 and Jag XKE suspension and go FYS.

Of course you gotta have been a Wrencher back then when we could buy 120 Octane Sunoco AV Gas at the pumps. How could that be because I was brought up in Northern Ontario and Bush Pilots supplying Mine sights were in demand.

To the OP by all means buy that 350GT but for the money except her to be blown away by a 69 or 70 wrencher with a Camaro, Cuda or Challenger or a Boss and to say the least an AMC Javelin and you gotta watch out for them old Volvo's and BMW's and you don't want a Toyota Crown eating up your ass.

Those specs are not from a GT350, but a 2013 Shelby GT500.

And you hear that guys? Apparently everyone who buys a new car is an idiot when you could own a 70's Camaro and blow away anything in the world...like magic. But you gotta be a wrencher too I think. :biggrin: