Saw Bill Clinton Speak Monday

[buckshot24]

Hey look, another full of facts post.

Look up ^^^^^

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Pointing out your bullshit is contributing to the thread, IMO. So why don't you pick a few bold faced lies to discuss instead of copying and pasting a massive list no one wants to waste their time looking at because of the source?

OK...I'll play. Let's start here. Lie?

http://obamalies.net/obamas-pledge-to-cut-deficit-in-half-laughable.html

 

[Charles Kozierok]

If I promise I will lose 20 pounds next year and I don't, does that mean I lied?

 

[buckshot24]

If I promise I will lose 20 pounds next year and I don't, does that mean I lied?

If you promise to lose 20 pounds and then gain 100 then who gives a shit if it's a lie? Your word would be shit.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

If you promise to lose 20 pounds and then gain 100 then who gives a shit if it's a lie?

Someone discussing whether or not it was a lie?

Try to pay attention.

 

[Ldir]

OK...I'll play. Let's start here. Lie?

http://obamalies.net/obamas-pledge-to-cut-deficit-in-half-laughable.html

He cut it by 36% in 4 years. That's not half but it is a big cut.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

If I promise I will lose 20 pounds next year and I don't, does that mean I lied?

Do you actually have evidence that you did everything within your power to lose that 20 pounds...or do you have a list of excuses as to why you gained 20 pounds instead? Therein lies the rub.

 

[buckshot24]

Someone discussing whether or not it was a lie?

Try to pay attention.

What is the difference? What you said you would do, you did not do.🙄

Isn't it you who was saying that Bush lied to get us into war? Would you apply your quibbling standards to that case as you do for Obama?

 

[mrCide]

Do you actually have evidence that you did everything within your power to lose that 20 pounds...or do you have a list of excuses as to why you gained 20 pounds instead? Therein lies the rub.

There-in lies the problem with people like you and sites like that. A pledge to do something, and is doing/going to do his best to achieve the goal he pledged, with satisfactory although not 100% results = a BIG FAT LIBERAL BULLSHIT LIE to GOPers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/repeat-after-me-obama-cut_b_1955561.html

To most this is a solid accomplishment and a good trend considering what it was stemming from. But to you and low information voters/idiots, OBAMA IS A LIAR!!!!!. Give me a break.

When you compare that to a person like Romney who has, in the span of his campaigning, changed "his views" on a number of issues (happy to be specific as can most posters here) I think that much more qualifies as lying, or being dishonest, than the example you are trying to present. This single example is one of many which makes this discussion not worth continuing.

Nonsense, lies from GOPers, misleading and bullshit. Staples of the current state of the Republican party.

 

[peonyu]

It's funny seeing so many right-wingers suddenly waxing nostalgic for the Clinton days. I seem to remember them viewing him differently at the time.

IF you dont worship Obama that doesn't make you a right winger...Ive voted for Clinton, G.W Bush, then Kerry in 04, an in 08 I voted for Obama and this time ill vote for Romney. Independents are the coveted voters since they dont see political parties as being their religion. Ill swap parties as much as I want if the candidate isnt doing the job he said he would [waves to Obama].

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Do you actually have evidence that you did everything within your power to lose that 20 pounds...or do you have a list of excuses as to why you gained 20 pounds instead? Therein lies the rub.

Whether I actually lose the 20 pounds or not isn't the determinant of whether or not I lied. Only my intent is at the time I make the statement.

If I really did want to lose 20 pounds, then I wasn't lying when I said it. I may end failing, or not following through, or not living up to my commitment. But I didn't lie, unless I knew at the time I made the statement that I had no intention of even making the effort.

So, did Obama intend to cut the deficit in half? I think he did. You may differ. Only he really knows for sure.

But when Romney comes out and says he supports something, and then a month later says he supports the exact opposite, the dishonesty is undeniable.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

There-in lies the problem with people like you and sites like that. A pledge to do something, and is doing/going to do his best to achieve the goal he pledged, with satisfactory although not 100% results = a BIG FAT LIBERAL BULLSHIT LIE to GOPers.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/repeat-after-me-obama-cut_b_1955561.html

To most this is a solid accomplishment and a good trend considering what it was stemming from. But to you and low information voters/idiots, OBAMA IS A LIAR!!!!!. Give me a break.

When you compare that to a person like Romney who has, in the span of his campaigning, changed "his views" on a number of issues (happy to be specific as can most posters here) I think that much more qualifies as lying, or being dishonest, than the example you are trying to present. This single example is one of many which makes this discussion not worth continuing.

Nonsense, lies from GOPers, misleading and bullshit. Staples of the current state of the Republican party.

So Obama was doing his best to reduce spending and cut the deficit? I beg to differ. He was spending like a drunken sailor.

http://www.lyingthieves.com/PorkulusTimeline

 

[zinfamous]

IF you dont worship Obama that doesn't make you a right winger...Ive voted for Clinton, G.W Bush, then Kerry in 04, an in 08 I voted for Obama and this time ill vote for Romney. Independents are the coveted voters since they dont see political parties as being their religion. Ill swap parties as much as I want if the candidate isnt doing the job he said he would [waves to Obama].

so voting against your previous votes in each cycle somehow makes you more committed?

:hmm:

 

[Kntx]

Here's a few.
SNIP

It would be helpful if you could pick a few from the list that you consider to be particularly grievous so there is something to talk about.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

So Obama was doing his best to reduce spending and cut the deficit? I beg to differ. He was spending like a drunken sailor.

One of the major causes of the deficit was the slump in the economy. He (and many others) believed the stimulus would help get the economy going.

Just as a business that is struggling sometimes has to put more money in to try to turn it around. That doesn't mean they aren't trying to make money in the long run.

 

[buckshot24]

Ok he's not a liar, he's just incompetent.

 

[zinfamous]

Ok he's not a liar, he's just incompetent.

wait a tic--didn't the nuckle-draggers come out to vote in 2010 only under the premise of preventing Obama from doing what he wanted to do?

 

[Ldir]

Ok he's not a liar, he's just incompetent.

He cut the deficit by 36% in 4 years. That's not half but it is a big cut. Pretty good given Republicans tried to block everything he did.

 

[Ldir]

wait a tic--didn't the nuckle-draggers come out to vote in 2010 only under the premise of preventing Obama from doing what he wanted to do?

Yes, but now they blame Obama. Honesty is not their strong suit.

 

[mrCide]

So Obama was doing his best to reduce spending and cut the deficit? I beg to differ. He was spending like a drunken sailor.

http://www.lyingthieves.com/PorkulusTimeline

I like how your first response to me pointing out that your "lie" is not a lie is to change the subject. Subtle, I'm shocked!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

I like how your first response to me pointing out that your "lie" is not a lie is to change the subject. Subtle, I'm shocked!

I changed the subject? WTF are you talking about?

 

[monovillage]

If I promise I will lose 20 pounds next year and I don't, does that mean I lied?

If you promise to lose weight and then make no attempt to carry out your promise, then YES! you lied.

 

[monovillage]

wait a tic--didn't the nuckle-draggers come out to vote in 2010 only under the premise of preventing Obama from doing what he wanted to do?

Try spelling it right, it's "knuckle-draggers" FFS!

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

It would be helpful if you could pick a few from the list that you consider to be particularly grievous so there is something to talk about.

Lie?

http://obamalies.net/obama-lies-about-5-days-to-review-healthcare-bill.html

 

[peonyu]

so voting against your previous votes in each cycle somehow makes you more committed?

:hmm:

He failed on nearly every campaign promise he made, so yes its now time for "change" and "hope" - Hopefully with the White house door hitting his behind on his way out.