Saw Bill Clinton Speak Monday

[Mursilis]

Dang, that guy can flat out communicate and connect. The ease with which he does so puts both current candidates to shame.

I've never been a fan of Clinton, but the man was probably one of the top 5 American orators of the past century. He just oozed charisma. It's a shame he didn't use his considerable gifts to accomplish more than he actually did. He really could've fixed some structural problems in our gov't, but mostly just used his skills to chase tail. What a waste.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Clinton was actually a decent President...too bad Obama isn't half the man for the job.

 

[Mursilis]

Clinton was actually a decent President...too bad Obama isn't half the man for the job.

He was OK. He managed to stumble his way into the Oval Office right when the tech boom hit, and rode that bubble for all it was worth. With his gifts, he could've done so much more. He's said he wanted to address SS and other long-term debt issues in his second term, but he got derailed by the whole Monica mess, and he addressed none of those issues.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Clinton was actually a decent President...too bad Obama isn't half the man for the job.

Too bad the Republicans couldn't find more than a quarter of a man to run against him.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Too bad the Republicans couldn't find more than a quarter of a man to run against him.

Romney is a hell of a lot more qualified than Obama...and actually has leadership skills to boot.

 

[Perknose]

He's a great communicator because he really likes people, he likes politics and he loves to be the center of attention.

In fact I'd really enjoy seeing a friendly and long debate about current politics between Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich.

Gingrich is a pompous dick. A free-form, no holds barred debate between Clinton and Christie is the one I'd pay to watch!

how is the voice holding up? last I saw he could barely get his words out

We were very surprised. His voice was fine. He didn't exhibit any signs of laryngitis at all.

Question is, did you still manage to go home with your female friend?

It was cold! There was shrinkage! Like a frightened turtle . . .

 

[Jaskalas]

Plastic men are often qualified, they're just not likeable.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Romney is a hell of a lot more qualified than Obama...and actually has leadership skills to boot.

Romney is a fraud who has no core convictions, and will say anything to anyone to get what he wants.

Probably the most dishonest candidate ever to run for high office in the US.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Romney is a fraud who has no core convictions, and will say anything to anyone to get what he wants.

Probably the most dishonest candidate ever to run for high office in the US.

Obama is a proven liar on many issues....but that doesn't seem to bother you. Romney's core conviction on fixing our economy is quite clear...perhaps you haven't been paying attention. In contrast, Obama was preoccupied with stuffing Obamacare down our throat.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Obama is a proven liar on many issues....but that doesn't seem to bother you.

Name them.

All politicians lie. Only Romney has contradicted himself on EVERY issue: abortion, role of the federal government, healthcare, gay rights, you name it.

He was a "severely conservative" governor a few months ago.. now suddenly he's a "proven moderate who worked with a Democratic legislature" (except for those 800 vetos).

He put forth his health care plan as a model for a national plan, then tried to run against it.

There is literally not one issue you can name where he has not held the exact opposite viewpoint. That's beyond merely being a politician.

 

[Perknose]

There is literally not one issue you can name where he has not held the exact opposite viewpoint. That's beyond merely being a politician.

^^^ This. The guy has set new records, even for politicians, for deliberately misrepresenting himself.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Name them.

All politicians lie. Only Romney has contradicted himself on EVERY issue: abortion, role of the federal government, healthcare, gay rights, you name it.

He was a "severely conservative" governor a few months ago.. now suddenly he's a "proven moderate who worked with a Democratic legislature" (except for those 800 vetos).

He put forth his health care plan as a model for a national plan, then tried to run against it.

There is literally not one issue you can name where he has not held the exact opposite viewpoint. That's beyond merely being a politician.

Here's a few.

http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

Lies During Fourth Year

“The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”
Politifact.com
“Mitt Romney raised nursing home fees eight times.”
Politifact.com
“Mitt Romney called the Arizona law a model for the nation.”
Politifact.com
“Planned Parenthood provides mammograms”
Spero News
“We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system”
cbsnews.com
Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations
State Department
“Mitt Romney Plans to fire Big Bird”
Politifact.com
“Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”
politifact.com
Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.”
politifact.com
“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”
abcnews.com
Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
Factcheck.org
My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
Factcheck.org
“I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)
The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors
“You Didn’t Build that”
A few examples

Lies During Third Year

I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
Youtube
In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.
www.breitbart.com
I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever
Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza
Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
Examiner
“Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
Like Raising taxes?
Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.
GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
Dems Rejected Jobs Bill
You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
Gallup Poll: Only 69%
These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.
Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama
Jobs Bill Paid for
Seems not so much Paid for
Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11
I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
American.com
USA producing more oil than ever before
Petroleum Insights
Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
Department of Homeland Security says 5%
Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
National Taxpayers Union
Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
Cnn Interview

Lies During Second Year

Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.
nationalreview.com
No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
Obama Lies to Keep Czars
No “boots” on the ground Libya
Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground
Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill
All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
Obama Memo
I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
Obama’s Schedule
The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
Campaign and Presidency
If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
TownHall
“Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.
ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans
We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010
Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
Arizona Immigration Law
Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
Claims never documented
The Health Care Package will pay for itself
Time
Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.
Hmm Immigration?
We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
Democratic Debate Lies
Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas
Video Proof
I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.
I got the Message from Massachusetts
Daily Bail

Lies During First Year

We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
AP fact Checker
Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
AP fact Checker
Collective salvation
Obama calls himself a Christian
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009
Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
Associated Press Video
Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
Obama Lies
As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
ABC
Recovery Act will save or create jobs
ABC News
Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
Obama Lies
No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
CNN
I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
Specator.Org
We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
Obama Lies
I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
NPR
Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
Council on Foreign Relations.
Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
List of Tax Promise Violations

2008 Campaign Lies

I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain
Youtube
No more wiretapping of citizens
Youtube
Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
News Busters
I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Obama campaign would accept public funding
ABC
Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
A Socialist
Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
Mounting Heath Care Lies
Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.
Would have the most transparent administration in History
Cato Institute
We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
Boston Globe
I have visited all 57 states.
Snopes
I’ll get rid of earmarks
Source: Any bill passed during presidency
When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
Campaign Speech
My father served in World War II.
The Videos and the Facts
Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
News Video
Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
YouTube
Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.
Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
NPR
I Won Michigan
Huffington Post
I won Nevada
The Nation
I don’t Have Lobbyists
US News
My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
Crooks and Liars
I Have Always Been Against Iraq
Washington Post
My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
CNN
Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Obama Campaign Video
I Barely Know Rezko
Sun Times
My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
ABC News

 

[Charles Kozierok]

I'm not going through all of those in detail. Some of them probably are lies. Some are failed promises, which aren't necessarily lies. Some are probably half-truths or whatnot. Some are completely bogus.

As I said, all politicians lie to one extent or another.

But with Obama you at least know what he stands for. He's switched positions on one major policy issue in four years: gay marriage. Romney has switched positions on everything.

Would I like to vote for a politician who doesn't lie? Yes. But there aren't any. At the very least, I do not want to vote into office a man who has no policy convictions, who will tell one person he believes in "X" and the other he believes in "not X" on the same day.

A man who simultaneously portrays himself as a "severely conservative" tea party supporter and a "moderate".

And that's Romney.

 

[buckshot24]

LOL, Obama lies his ass off.

 

[zinfamous]

Yup, and since Clinton we have had several shitty Presidents/candidates to pick from...Bush, Gore, Mccain and Obama. None of them are terribly inspiring on their own merits. The only thing Obama had/has going for him is the "different" factor of being not white [and oh boy did the media run with it!]. Bush ? I wont even go there, as bad as Bush was, Obama is atleast better than THAT.

well kiss my grits. I thought republicans kept telling me that they weren't the racist ones.

:hmm:

 

[zinfamous]

Here's a few.

http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

Lies During Fourth Year
list of lies...

Ah, so that explains Ryan's RNC speech--desperately trying to pull even with the Obama lie train--and Ryan won!




and lol--so many of those are assumptive BS. what did Obama lie about in his "you didn't build that" speech? Huh? tell me. Perhaps you'd like to engage his point, rather than 4 words taken preposterously out of context.

Pray tell--what the fuck exactly did Romney ever build? Enlighten me.

 

[hal2kilo]

LOL, Obama lies his ass off.

Hey look, another full of facts post.

 

[momeNt]

Update thread title so it says "Yesterday"? This is getting confusing.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Ah, so that explains Ryan's RNC speech--desperately trying to pull even with the Obama lie train--and Ryan won!




and lol--so many of those are assumptive BS. what did Obama lie about in his "you didn't build that" speech? Huh? tell me. Perhaps you'd like to engage his point, rather than 4 words taken preposterously out of context.

Pray tell--what the fuck exactly did Romney ever build? Enlighten me.

There is nothing I could ever say that would enlighten you...surely you're intelligent enough to know this about yourself.

If you're interested in responding to my comments regarding Obama's "you didn't build that" speech feel free to post in that thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2260032&highlight=

It's interesting that I gave you such a long list of lies and this is the best you can come up with in Obama's defense. You are quite the shill.

 

[monovillage]

Here's a few.

http://obamalies.net/list-of-lies

Lies During Fourth Year

“The sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”
Politifact.com
“Mitt Romney raised nursing home fees eight times.”
Politifact.com
“Mitt Romney called the Arizona law a model for the nation.”
Politifact.com
“Planned Parenthood provides mammograms”
Spero News
“We got back every dime we used to rescue the financial system”
cbsnews.com
Benghazi violence was caused by an internet video & demonstrations
State Department
“Mitt Romney Plans to fire Big Bird”
Politifact.com
“Under Gov. Romney’s definition … Donald Trump is a small business.”
politifact.com
Because of Obamacare, “over the last two years, health care premiums have gone up — it’s true — but they’ve gone up slower than any time in the last 50 years.”
politifact.com
“I think it’s important for us to understand that the Fast and Furious program was a field-initiated program begun under the previous administration”
abcnews.com
Romney and Ryan will gut pell grants for low-income college students.
Factcheck.org
My budget will cut the deficit by $4 Trillion over 10 years.
Factcheck.org
“I am told that Governor Romney’s new running mate, Paul Ryan, might be around Iowa the next few days,” he said while in Council Bluffs, Iowa. “He is one of the leaders of Congress standing in the way. So if you happen to see Congressman Ryan, tell him how important this farm bill is to Iowa and our rural communities.”
House passed bill on August 2, 2012 (Paul Ryan voted yes)
The American automobile industry has come roaring back…So now I want to say what we did with the auto industry, we can do it in manufacturing across America. Let’s make sure advanced, high-tech manufacturing jobs take root here, not in China. And that means supporting investment here. Governor Romney … invested in companies that were called ‘pioneers’ of outsourcing. I don’t want to outsource. I want to insource.
Forbes- Outsourcer-In-Chief: Obama Of General Motors
“You Didn’t Build that”
A few examples

Lies During Third Year

I will walk on that picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain.
Youtube
In his 2012 State of the Union Address, President Obama said that American oil production is the highest that it’s been in eight years.
www.breitbart.com
I’ve done more for Israel’s security than any President ever
Obama aided Islamic Extremists take over of Egypt/ Libya – Weapons pour into Gaza
Virtually every Senate Republican voted against the tax cut last week
Examiner
“Every idea that we’ve put forward are ones that traditionally have been supported by Democrats and Republicans alike.”
Like Raising taxes?
Obama met highly qualified out of work teacher Robert Baroz
He wasn’t out of work and Obama never met him.
GOP Responsible for Obama Jobs Bill Not Passing
Dems Rejected Jobs Bill
You have 80 percent of the American people who support a balanced approach. Eighty percent of the American people support an approach that includes revenues and includes cuts. So the notion that somehow the American people aren’t sold is not the problem
Gallup Poll: Only 69%
These are obligations that the United States has taken on in the past. Congress has run up the credit card, and we now have an obligation to pay our bills.
Looks like it’s been incurred mostly in the years of Obama
Jobs Bill Paid for
Seems not so much Paid for
Then you’ve got their(GOP)which is dirtier air, dirtier water, less people with health insurance
Barack Obama, campaiging in Asheville, NC, 10/17/11
I cannot guarantee that those checks go out on August 3rd if we haven’t resolved this issue. Because there may simply not be the money in the coffers to do it.
American.com
USA producing more oil than ever before
Petroleum Insights
Fence between US and Mexico is “Practically Complete”
Department of Homeland Security says 5%
Rich doesn’t pay their fair share.
National Taxpayers Union
Mitt Romney would deny gay people the right to adopt children.
Cnn Interview

Lies During Second Year

Obama claimed the SCOTUS decision in Citizens United v. FEC, “open[ed] the floodgates for special interests — including foreign corporations — to spend without limit in our elections.
nationalreview.com
No signing statements to nullify or undermine congressional instructions as enacted into law
Obama Lies to Keep Czars
No “boots” on the ground Libya
Anyone that has worked with the AC-130 gunship can tell you, you need spotters to let aircraft know where the targets are. Usually it is Special Forces, Rangers etc trained for this mission. It’s CIA Agents in Libya on the ground
Reform will also rein in the abuse and excess that nearly brought down our financial system. It will finally bring transparency to the kinds of complex, risky transactions that helped trigger the financial crisis.
Obama Lies About Financial Reform Bill
All Americans WILL BE were, “surprised, disappointed and angry” about lockerbie bomber
Obama Memo
I will not rest until the BP Oil Spill stops
Obama’s Schedule
The health care bill will not increase the deficit by one dime.
Campaign and Presidency
If you like the health care plan you have you can keep it
TownHall
“Under our plan, no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions, and federal conscience laws will remain in place.”
U.S. Capitol, Washington, D.C., September 9, 2009.
ObamaCare Fee is not a new tax
Obama denies healthcare is a new tax on all Americans
We have run out of places in the US to drill for oil.
Obama’s oval office speech in June 2010
Now suddenly if you don’t have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you can be harassed, that’s something that could potentially happen.
Arizona Immigration Law
Doctors choose amputation because they get better compensation. Greedy Doctors taking out tonsils for more money.
Claims never documented
The Health Care Package will pay for itself
Time
Republicans don’t have a single idea that’s different from George Bush’s ideas — not one.
Hmm Immigration?
We shouldn’t Mandate the purchase of health care
Democratic Debate Lies
Obama says he’ll save average family $8,000 in gas
Video Proof
I am immediately instituting PayGo “Pay as you go”
Said during a speech immediately after the Trillion Dollar “Shovel Ready” bill.
I got the Message from Massachusetts
Daily Bail

Lies During First Year

We began by passing a Recovery Act that has already saved or created over 150,000 jobs.” – caught cooking the books and now changed to ‘jobs supported’ versus ‘created/saved’
AP fact Checker
Number one, we inherited a $1.3 trillion deficit. … That wasn’t me.” – Congress, under Democratic control in 2007 and 2008, controlled the purse strings that led to the deficit Obama inherited.Obama supported the emergency bailout package in Bush’s final months — a package Democratic leaders wanted to make bigger.
AP fact Checker
Collective salvation
Obama calls himself a Christian
I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
Obama Inauguration. 20 Jan 2009
Cut Deficit in Half by end of first term
Associated Press Video
Health Care deals will be covered on C-span
Obama Lies
As President I will recognize the Armenian Genocide
ABC
Recovery Act will save or create jobs
ABC News
Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus.
Obama Lies
No Earmarks in the $787 Billion Stimulus
CNN
I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care plan
Specator.Org
We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages.
Obama Lies
I am not somebody who promotes same-sex marriage.
NPR
Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year
Council on Foreign Relations.
Won’t Raise taxes on those making less than 250,000 per year.
Businessweek: Obama Agnostic on taxes
List of Tax Promise Violations

2008 Campaign Lies

I will walk the picket line with you, if workers are denied the right to bargain
Youtube
No more wiretapping of citizens
Youtube
Mr. Ayers as “a guy who lives in my neighborhood,” but “not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis.
News Busters
I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
Obama campaign would accept public funding
ABC
Minimum Wage will increase to $9.50/hr
A Socialist
Ann Dunham spent the months before her death in 1995 fighting with insurance companies that sought to deny her the coverage she needed to pay for treatment.
Mounting Heath Care Lies
Didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was Radical
Dreams of My Father – A radical Socialist.
Would have the most transparent administration in History
Cato Institute
We will go through our federal budget – page by page, line by line – eliminating those programs we don’t need, and insisting that those we do operate in a sensible cost-effective way.
Boston Globe
I have visited all 57 states.
Snopes
I’ll get rid of earmarks
Source: Any bill passed during presidency
When a bill lands on my Desk, The American people will have 5 days to review it before I sign it.
Campaign Speech
My father served in World War II.
The Videos and the Facts
Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009
News Video
Seniors Making less than 50,000 will not have to pay taxes
YouTube
Would not vote for any bill supporting troop funding without a firm withdrawal commitment from the Bush Administration.
He has done nothing but continue the Bush admins strategy and to explain how the “surges total failure” has now become his greatest achievement.
Present Votes Are Common In Illinois
NPR
I Won Michigan
Huffington Post
I won Nevada
The Nation
I don’t Have Lobbyists
US News
My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad
Crooks and Liars
I Have Always Been Against Iraq
Washington Post
My Wife Didn’t Mean What She Said About Pride In Country
CNN
Barack was never an ACORN trainer and never worked for ACORN in any other capacity.
Obama Campaign Video
I Barely Know Rezko
Sun Times
My Church Is Like Any Other Christian Church
ABC News

LMAO, that's got to sting. Funny that they ask, you provide and all the sudden it's
move the goalposts
MOVE THE GOALPOSTS
MOVE THE GOALPOSTS

The scary thing is that some of the most uninformed actually believe their guy doesn't lie and that he isn't a pompous asshole.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

The scary thing is that some of the most uninformed actually believe their guy doesn't lie and that he isn't a pompous asshole.

A scary thing is that some people actually consider "Obama says he's a Christian" to be a valid example of a "lie".

Another scary thing is people who can't tell the difference between a politician who lies about something and a politician who has no core convictions whatsoever.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

LMAO, that's got to sting. Funny that they ask, you provide and all the sudden it's
move the goalposts
MOVE THE GOALPOSTS
MOVE THE GOALPOSTS

The scary thing is that some of the most uninformed actually believe their guy doesn't lie and that he isn't a pompous asshole.

I view it as a form of cognitive dissonance...they turn a blind eye towards Obama's "shortcomings" but then somehow rationalize their putting Romney under an electron microscope. And the funny part...they actually seem to think they're reasonably intelligent and objective. Go figure.

 

[mrCide]

There is nothing I could ever say that would enlighten you...surely you're intelligent enough to know this about yourself.

If you're interested in responding to my comments regarding Obama's "you didn't build that" speech feel free to post in that thread.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2260032&highlight=

It's interesting that I gave you such a long list of lies and this is the best you can come up with in Obama's defense. You are quite the shill.

Because copying and pasting a massive list of bullshit without even commenting provides anything substantial to the thread.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Because copying and pasting a massive list of bullshit without even commenting provides anything substantial to the thread.

He asked for lies and I pulled off the first list I googled. I didn't vet every one...but there are obviously quite of few that are bold face lies with plenty of documentation to back them up.

BTW....are you offering anything substantial to this thread besides your whining? I thought not.

 

[mrCide]

He asked for lies and I pulled off the first list I googled. I didn't vet every one...but there are obviously quite of few that are bold face lies with plenty of documentation to back them up.

BTW....are you offering anything substantial to this thread besides your whining? I thought not.

Pointing out your bullshit is contributing to the thread, IMO. So why don't you pick a few bold faced lies to discuss instead of copying and pasting a massive list no one wants to waste their time looking at because of the source?