Saudi Royals checkmate reeling neocons failed "War on Terror"

[Jaskalas]

The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them. Starting with Iran and then SA if they?re so inclined to join.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them. Starting with Iran and then SA if they?re so inclined to join.

Iran is not doing anything inside Iraq other than supporting political parties.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
How about instead of creating silly straw men arguments you explain how this mess in the iraq is NOT his fault?

It was his war, his lies and it is his baby. He did not listen to the biggest public outcry in history against this war with millions in the streets worldwide, and now you want to say it is not his fault? Get a clue.

I will concede this: It is the idiot supporters who let him get away with this too and the medias fault for being on board also. But this mess is all his, like it or not and the criticisms pointed at him for the mess are very well deserved.

To play this game... don't concede on anything... as an anti-bush hater.. one must not concede... that's what the neocons want.. dont give it to them... Remember this is all Bushes fault!!! nothing else matters... land of milk and honey..

My rice is done... obviously.. without any help from that d@mnnn Bush... curses...

Cute, you remind me of the abused spouse "Why is everyone so hard on him? He is a good man even though he occasionally gets a bit out of hand."

Luckily most of America can see through the kool-aid and realizes the reasons for criticism, when are you going to wake up? You are pretty late to the ballgame you could say, you usually this slow catching on? Wake up and open your eyes riceboi, you have slept long enough.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them. Starting with Iran and then SA if they?re so inclined to join.

Iran is not doing anything inside Iraq other than supporting political parties.

Oh, so that's what you call militias and other militant organizations participating in the genocide in Iraq. Do you support them, after giving them such validity as ?political party??

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them. Starting with Iran and then SA if they?re so inclined to join.

Iran is not doing anything inside Iraq other than supporting political parties.

Oh, so that's what you call militias and other militant organizations participating in the genocide in Iraq. Do you support them, after giving them such validity as ?political party??

There is no evidence to suggest Iran is doing anything with the militia. The U.S cannot prove it.

If Iran was arming the militia the U.S troops inside Iraq would be facing hell.

Iran has weapons that can easily penetrate our tanks.
Iran also has numerous weapons that can take out our helicopters

The insurgents inside Iraq have neither. All they have are a bunch of old weapons that they put together to make IEDs.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them. Starting with Iran and then SA if they?re so inclined to join.

Iran is not doing anything inside Iraq other than supporting political parties.

Oh, so that's what you call militias and other militant organizations participating in the genocide in Iraq. Do you support them, after giving them such validity as ?political party??

There is no evidence to suggest Iran is doing anything with the militia. The U.S cannot prove it.

The Mahdi Army.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&o...-8&hl=en&q=Iran+Mahdi+Iraq&sa=N&tab=nw

 

[Orignal Earl]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them.

But not America, Britain and Oz eh

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them. Starting with Iran and then SA if they?re so inclined to join.

Iran is not doing anything inside Iraq other than supporting political parties.

Oh, so that's what you call militias and other militant organizations participating in the genocide in Iraq. Do you support them, after giving them such validity as ?political party??

There is no evidence to suggest Iran is doing anything with the militia. The U.S cannot prove it.

The Mahdi Army.

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&o...-8&hl=en&q=Iran+Mahdi+Iraq&sa=N&tab=nw

Is the U.S at war with Al Sadr? They seem to be very confused if they are or not. Al Sadr even stood next to Iraq's President.

Hezbollah is a Lebanese group. Iran has no say in their members packing up and going to Iraq. The Leader of Hezbollah is Arab as are their members.

No Iranian fighters have entered Iraq and no advanced Iranian weapons have entered Iraq.

The U.S keeps saying Iran does this and Iran does that, but they have shown zero evidence. That is why when the Pentagon was asked for evidence they avoided the question, were asked again and finally said "no we have no direct evidence linking Iran.."
The claim that Iran is causing destruction inside Iraq is bogus.

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them.

But not America, Britain and Oz eh

You forgot Canada....... Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Pakistan, etc. etc. etc.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: GrGr
The US cannot stay because the bloodbath their occupation has created will become "satanic" (to use a CIA assessment of the situation) nor leave without admitting that the White House, Congress and both political parties are thoroughly corrupt.

both political parties? it was Cheney & Rumsfeld who lied by manipulating and misrepresenting intelligence to bamboozle the Democrats and the rest of the world into believing that an invasion was desirable. It was an American public who elected a President too dumb to understand what Cheney and Rumsfeld were doing.

I don't think anyone was bamboozled apart from the Bush worshippers. The rest of the world certainly wasn't. It was only the Brits and Israel + the coalition of the bribed that went along with it. The Democrats just surrendered with nary a whimper. Even French Surrender Monkey's have more spine than that.

 

[GrGr]

Originally posted by: Orignal Earl

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
The foreign involvements in Iraq should have war declared against them.

But not America, Britain and Oz eh

lmao

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: GrGr

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: GrGr
The US cannot stay because the bloodbath their occupation has created will become "satanic" (to use a CIA assessment of the situation) nor leave without admitting that the White House, Congress and both political parties are thoroughly corrupt.

both political parties? it was Cheney & Rumsfeld who lied by manipulating and misrepresenting intelligence to bamboozle the Democrats and the rest of the world into believing that an invasion was desirable. It was an American public who elected a President too dumb to understand what Cheney and Rumsfeld were doing.

I don't think anyone was bamboozled apart from the Bush worshippers. The rest of the world certainly wasn't. It was only the Brits and Israel + the coalition of the bribed that went along with it. The Democrats just surrendered with nary a whimper. Even French Surrender Monkey's have more spine than that.

I do not think this is the case though, the right was well prepared and learned what to use from vietnam, the left as a whole was under a barrage of accusations that not going along with them meant you were unpatriotic, troop spitter etc. and this was repeated endlessly by their pundits.

For what it is worth I think they may have erred on the side of caution too much, but not totally spineless.

Notice that the only Dems who stood up to this slimefest at the start of the war are pretty much in charge now.

 

[Drift3r]

So they are going to support Al Qaeda. Nice friends there Mr. Bush.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: WiseOldDude
Thanks Dumbya, you have really fvcked this country with your stupid war and total cluelessness.

Yeah, but we got Saddam. Too bad we were after Osama.

Whoopee !! We got the only guy who could control the warring factions in Iraq ! Now we have pure chaos with strong influences of both Iran and Al Qaeda left to divvy up Iraq. Somehow I don't see that as a good thing IMHO. Then again I was always against this war and the freedom fry eating morons who cheered along with the President.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

?Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,? Lohse says.

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
it takes a authoritarian state to keep people treating one another fairly

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: eleison

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
How about instead of creating silly straw men arguments you explain how this mess in the iraq is NOT his fault?

It was his war, his lies and it is his baby. He did not listen to the biggest public outcry in history against this war with millions in the streets worldwide, and now you want to say it is not his fault? Get a clue.

I will concede this: It is the idiot supporters who let him get away with this too and the medias fault for being on board also. But this mess is all his, like it or not and the criticisms pointed at him for the mess are very well deserved.

To play this game... don't concede on anything... as an anti-bush hater.. one must not concede... that's what the neocons want.. dont give it to them... Remember this is all Bushes fault!!! nothing else matters... land of milk and honey..

My rice is done... obviously.. without any help from that d@mnnn Bush... curses...

Hey how about you answer his question instead of just acting like 13 year old child.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: bamacre

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Your point is? So I made a typo and some asshat decided to use it as a sig, wow, real mature of you, about as lame as Vic using it in a pathetic attempt to discredit me.
Cheap tricks are nothing new from you all instead of dealing with the issues head on.
Keep trying.

So you ready to admit you all have been wrong on anything yet or made mistakes supporting a saudi smooching madman? Not that you would have the maturity to do so.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: bamacre

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA

Your point is? So I made a typo and some asshat decided to use it as a sig, wow, real mature of you, about as lame as Vic using it in a pathetic attempt to discredit me.
Cheap tricks are nothing new from you all instead of dealing with the issues head on.
Keep trying.

So you ready to admit you all have been wrong on anything yet or made mistakes supporting a saudi smooching madman? Not that you would have the maturity to do so.

Certainly does NOT look like a typo to me, nor anyone else for that matter. Especially since you edited the post several minutes later.

And I don't know why you are asking me to admit I made a mistake about Bush, I never voted for him, and never supported him.

 

[Steeplerot]

Well it is, and you are a idiot for carrying on about it after I have said so, I in no way condone authoritarianism so like Rollins says FU.
Quit the drama queen bs already both you and your girlfriend vic are getting really boring with it.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Well it is, and you are a idiot for carrying on about it after I have said so, I in no way condone authoritarianism so like Rollins says FU.

Sure, it's a typo. :roll:

 

[Steeplerot]

It was so stfu already and quit neffing, up your postcount elsewhere.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Saudi Arabia has warned it could decide to provide financial support to Iraqi Sunnis if the U.S. pulls its troops out of Iraq, where sectarian violence between the minority Sunnis and majority Iraqi Shiites has threatened to tear apart the country, The New York Times reported.

Saudi Arabia is a majority Sunni country and up to now has promised U.S. officials that it would not intervene to assist Iraq's Sunni insurgency, according to the report, appearing in Wednesday's edition of The Times and citing anonymous American and Arab diplomatic sources.

But that promise might not hold if U.S. troops leave Iraq, the newspaper said. The Bush administration has repeatedly said there are no plans for the immediate pullout of U.S. troops.

The Times reported that King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia sent the warning to Vice President Dick Cheney two weeks ago during the vice president's visit to Riyadh. The message also emphasized the kingdom's displeasure with proposed talks between the U.S. government and Iran.
Link (Thanks to Eaglekeeper)


Saudi cash (Your gasoline bill!) buys weapons for Iraqi rebels
Now every time you pay at the pump you get a free dead US soldiers blood on your hands. -What a deal!

Saudi clerics urge Muslims to support Iraqi Sunnis against Shiites (Still waiting for a link from royal family confirming what is on TV) Link

In other news long time Saudi ambassador to US resigns.


It is obvious what dick the dick cheney was up to in SA here recently.

Thank You Republicans, for politicizing the split in two countries.

Before this optional "war", these lived together, side by side, for a long time.

Thanks to the US, Britain, et al., for the help in pushing yet another former colony to the brink.

Maybe next time these people will listen to more reasoned debate before running off playing little napoleons with the world in the name of empire. -Yeah right!

Everyone talks about the so-called Jewish lobby which is nothing compared to the Saudi lobby. USA is little more than a vassel to Saudi Arabia.

Lisa Myers and WaPo had pieces saying that over 50 percent of the foreign fighters in Iraq were Saudi already. Not to mention alomst all the highjackers, the funders of 9/11 to include a high ranking princess. Not a peeep heard but holding hands and french kissing the sheiks from this admin.

 

[International Machine Consortium]

Originally posted by: bamacre

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Well it is, and you are a idiot for carrying on about it after I have said so, I in no way condone authoritarianism so like Rollins says FU.

Sure, it's a typo. :roll:

Can you take this little tiff elsewhere? Nobody cares except you.
That'd be greaaaaat.
Kthxbye