Saudi Arabia

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1

Originally posted by: raildogg
The Bush family and Cheney are friendly to the Saudi's, no doubt. There are hundreds of other republican politicians, which of them like the Saudi's so much?

Bush and Cheney are both ex oilmen, everyone knows this.

Did Bush of Cheney personally intervene to give the Saudi banks, government and royals immunity from prosecution by 9/11 survivors and family, or were there other Republicans involved too?

Do you have any details on that? I'm thinking that you are not giving the full story.

 

[lozina]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: HalosPuma

Originally posted by: Aimster
I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful City
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

That is the recipe for a revolution. Once trouble riots break out in Saudi Arabia, you can can get oil prices are going to jump. There's a lot of money to be made owning the oil corporations.

This is also why we need to get Iraq's oil online. Without Saudi oil, our economy would collapse.

We only get a very small percentage of our oil from Saudi Arabia actually. We get most from Canada and Venezuela.

You can soon scratch Venezuela off... unless of course we stage another coup but this time is successful.

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

you don't say what city, but I've been to Saudi several times, and I have to say it is hard to disagree with most of what you said above...

further, the 10%-90% split seems to be fairly common throughout the arab world... or should i say the part of the world that lives off oil

And people still wonder why so many terrorists come from these countries...........

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Aimster

*Beautiful Cities
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

Ah, she saw the Model for the U.S. up close and personal.

Hope she enjoyed it, that's what the Rich Radical Religious Right Chef Monteur Lemmings are successfully transferring here and the P&N Elitists are thrilled and rejoicing.

 

[athithi]

Oh, here's another perspective from someone who was there recently...

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Yes, when can we expect the Bushinistas to spread "freedom" and "democracy" to Saudi Arabia?

grea tway to change the topic and crapp on it

 

[piasabird]

The original treaty with Saudia Arabia was brokered by Roosevelt.

 

[SuperTool]

Originally posted by: Aimster
I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful Cities
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

Sounds like a Republican utopia.

 

[0marTheZealot]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: HalosPuma

Originally posted by: Aimster
I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful City
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

That is the recipe for a revolution. Once trouble riots break out in Saudi Arabia, you can can get oil prices are going to jump. There's a lot of money to be made owning the oil corporations.

This is also why we need to get Iraq's oil online. Without Saudi oil, our economy would collapse.

We only get a very small percentage of our oil from Saudi Arabia actually. We get most from Canada and Venezuela.

Both countries that are in terminal decline. Venezeula hasn't been hitting it's OPEC quota for quite some time now. More and more, we will come to depend on Middle East oil.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: HalosPuma

Originally posted by: Aimster
I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful City
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

That is the recipe for a revolution. Once trouble riots break out in Saudi Arabia, you can can get oil prices are going to jump. There's a lot of money to be made owning the oil corporations.

This is also why we need to get Iraq's oil online. Without Saudi oil, our economy would collapse.

Actually, we get more oil from Venezuala and Canada than Saudi Arabia, by a HUGE margin.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: HalosPuma

Originally posted by: Aimster
I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful City
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

That is the recipe for a revolution. Once trouble riots break out in Saudi Arabia, you can can get oil prices are going to jump. There's a lot of money to be made owning the oil corporations.

This is also why we need to get Iraq's oil online. Without Saudi oil, our economy would collapse.

Actually, we get more oil from Venezuala and Canada than Saudi Arabia, by a HUGE margin.

That's why we would invade Venezeula before Saudi Arabia. We already own quite a bit of the Middle East.

 

[CanOWorms]

You can thank the UK for that.

 

[0roo0roo]

right🙂 the uk should have just said stfu to the king and took over the country. the saudis delt with us instead of the brits because they figured we wouldn't meddle in their society. allow them to keep their backwards culture while we developed their oil resources and that was the agreement that was struck. they kept foreigners in those compounds for so long not for their protection..but to keep them from polluting the culture😛 and u see what that has resulted in😛

 

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: athithi
Oh, here's another perspective from someone who was there recently...

Somebody should go kick their butts. Americana have already made their fair share of sacrafices so it's somebody eles's turn to do it. I nominate India. 😛

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: HalosPuma

Originally posted by: Aimster
I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful City
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

That is the recipe for a revolution. Once trouble riots break out in Saudi Arabia, you can can get oil prices are going to jump. There's a lot of money to be made owning the oil corporations.

This is also why we need to get Iraq's oil online. Without Saudi oil, our economy would collapse.

Well, it is and it isn't, at the same time. While it would certainly be *beneficial*, *wise*, *just*, even *moral*, the truth is that historically, people tend to suffer long trains of abuses simply because they are accustomed to them. As Americans it's EASY to say "well why don't they just have a revolution like we did?" but we don't realize that in the whole history of mankind, we're a bizarre anomaly.

Jason

 

[kage69]

I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful Cities
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

Actually, I've been there a number of times (although only in and around Riyadh). Not sure exactly why some Westerners consider the architecture present there beautiful - buildings that look like Moya from Farscape don't immediately make me think of beauty, more like equal parts super-elaborate glam and ultra-modern experimentation. Some of them are pretty impressive though, especially with the gardens that usually accompany them.
Not going to go into why she thought it was dirty, it very well might have been where she was, but Riyadh is no Karachi, and having been to many dirty US cities *cough* NYC *cough* I'd be hesitant to throw that term around.
I would argue it's the Saudis themselves who are wealthy, to various degress, with the imported labor from Pakistan, India, and the Philipines living in near abject poverty.

The thing that bothered me about the Saudis the most was the almost constant state of surveillence my family was kept under. The cops would take every opportunity to ask for your papers (gets old after the 3rd or 4th time), and always seemed to be a member of the mutaween keeping an eye on us. Other than the latent paranoia concerning security, the hospitality was excellent. Just don't ask for a drink. 😉

 

[jai6638]

Originally posted by: DeeKnow

Originally posted by: Aimster
I am not here to make anyone look good or bad I am just telling you what she told my GF.

*Beautiful City
*Dirty Country
*Seen poor people before? Well you haven't seen poor until you go to Saudi Arabia
*10% of the population are extremely wealthy. 90% of the population are dirt poor
*No Middle-Class

One person's opinion vs none of us here who have been there. Thought it would be interesting.

further, the 10%-90% split seems to be fairly common throughout the arab world... or should i say the part of the world that lives off oil

with a few exceptions such as U.A.E ... i've never been to Saudi although i was born and brought up in the UAE... Didn't picture Saudi to be as bad as it is described by the OP

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: raildogg
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Bush and Cheney are both ex oilmen, everyone knows this.

Ex? Judging by the look of things, they are doing more for oil now than they did when they "officially" ran the companies.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg
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Bush and Cheney are both ex oilmen, everyone knows this.

Ex? Judging by the look of things, they are doing more for oil now than they did when they "officially" ran the companies.

Given that their investments are in blind trusts, thet dont evenknow what kind of industry men they are.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg
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Bush and Cheney are both ex oilmen, everyone knows this.

Ex? Judging by the look of things, they are doing more for oil now than they did when they "officially" ran the companies.

Given that their investments are in blind trusts, thet dont evenknow what kind of industry men they are.

Sure they don't know. The perks are abound when they both leave office. If you think these guys are any different than any of the other paid off politicians in DC (all of them), then you're not as bright as I thought you were.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: Engineer

Originally posted by: raildogg
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Bush and Cheney are both ex oilmen, everyone knows this.

Ex? Judging by the look of things, they are doing more for oil now than they did when they "officially" ran the companies.

Given that their investments are in blind trusts, thet dont evenknow what kind of industry men they are.

I dont disagree, but most libs treat them as if they are the only politicians to leave DC more influental than when they got there.

Sure they don't know. The perks are abound when they both leave office. If you think these guys are any different than any of the other paid off politicians in DC (all of them), then you're not as bright as I thought you were.