Sarah Palin to be McCain's VP!!

[Lemon law]

Even if the McCain Palin ticket may lose in November, I suspect she is going to be a rising star for the GOP win or lose. And with Ted Stevens possibly being forced to resign, a scenario could arise where she just appoints herself as his successor if the McCain Palin ticket loses in November and Stevens wins the Senate race.

But that is one area where she is really weak, namely foreign policy experience of any kind. To some extent, McCain will have limited time to get Palin ready, and had more time been available, some foreign trips would have helped her resume. As for me, I would love to see her rip into GWB, Cheney, and the general corruption inside the GOP, but only time will tell.

 

[Farang]

Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
In case you missed the memo for those of y'all dissing Palin's experience, she ran the biggest state in the union (yes, bigger than Texas). She's had a good record, and more experience than Obama.

Alaska is about as hard to run as a local gift shop. Let's not be ridiculous, Palin clearly has less experience than Obama (especially in terms of relevant, weighted experience) and frankly is a token pick by McCain to appeal to Hillary supporters. Who likely aren't dumb enough to vote for a woman who's so pro-life.

And how much experience did Bill/Hillary have from Arkansas
That is a small podunk type state (based on comparison to some of the supporters of the bigger states).

/disclaimer
I am from a small state also

 

[imported_Infidel]

Somebody give her a call and fill her in on the position, sounds like she may not know...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk20IySDwhw

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Corbett

LOL! The Iraq issue is a done deal. Either president will bring troops home around the same time now due to the Surge that McCain supported and Obama did not. As far as taking care of the soldiers when they return, well, McCain supports that as well, if not more than Obama.

You still have yet to post why you support Obama instead of McCain and how those ideas that Obama holds line up more with your "Republican Views"

Not for McCain it isn't. He's been silent when Bush made the agreements with the Iraqis. He might reverse it. Who knows.

Anyways, another reason why I will vote for Obama is because he's a hard worker. Nothing was handed to him. Even better, he puts others before himself. Those speak volumes about character. Dumping your crippled wife for a rich beauty queen and using her fortunes to run for office says the opposite. Growing up, I remember that being a Republican was all about doing things on your own. Obama has it, McCain doesn't.

Again I'll have to ask. What policies does Obama support that are more "republican" than those of McCain's? You sound just like Obama with your avoiding the question.

I see you're trying to pidgeon hole me when I already gave you reasons. Sorry, fool, you're not going to get me to tow any partyline. As I've said earlier, this nation needs to be rebalanced from a gutter capitalist style to one more in line with what Bush promised back in 2000 when he was running as a compassionate conservative. It's the platform that matter and McCain obsession with war and tax cut for rich Americans strikes me as too selfish.

Like I said earlier, one man embodies the Republican ideals while another is just a pretender.

No actually, you see. You, just like Obama, cant give a straight answer to the question. You said you were a republican who wont vote for McCain because he is not republican enough, but you WILL vote for Obama. So please, feel free any time now to answer WHY you come to that conclusion and WHAT POLICIES DOES OBAMA SUPPORT THAT ARE REPUBLICAN?!?!?!

 

[LandRover]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
Boy you got me there... she clearly doesnt have the star power that Obama has. Damn, what is she even doing on camera? Nobody knows who she is... what the hell does she think she is doing in the VP slot on a major party ticket? She needs to be elected to national office, spend 2 years writing books and publicixing herself before she can even THINK about running for VP or President. How stupid of me.

So that sarcasm helps you to rationalize McCain's choice? What else do you have?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: Farang
Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

Are you sure about that? This thread is full of people saying that Clinton supporters would NEVER vote for her.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: Evan Lieb

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
In case you missed the memo for those of y'all dissing Palin's experience, she ran the biggest state in the union (yes, bigger than Texas). She's had a good record, and more experience than Obama.

Alaska is about as hard to run as a local gift shop. Let's not be ridiculous, Palin clearly has less experience than Obama (especially in terms of relevant, weighted experience) and frankly is a token pick by McCain to appeal to Hillary supporters. Who likely aren't dumb enough to vote for a woman who's so pro-life.

And how much experience did Bill/jhillary have from Arkansas
That is a small podunk type state (based on comparison to some of the supporters of the bigger states).

/disclaimer
I am from a small state also

So are you agreeing with us that experience isn't necessary?

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland

Originally posted by: LandRover

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland


You clearly know nothing about her... or Obama for that matter.

If you want to try to compare her to Obama, then how come she didn't attempt to run for President herself? Being that she's so capable & motivated, surely she could have challenged Obama, right? Most of the population didn't even know she existed until today.

Boy you got me there... she clearly doesnt have the star power that Obama has. Damn, what is she even doing on camera? Nobody knows who she is... what the hell does she think she is doing in the VP slot on a major party ticket? She needs to be elected to national office, spend 2 years writing books and publicixing herself before she can even THINK about running for VP or President. How stupid of me.

Sounds like she suffers from "the audacity of hope." 😉

 

[Farang]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Farang
Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

Are you sure about that? This thread is full of people saying that Clinton supporters would NEVER vote for her.

Whatever the reason you want to give--appeal to Clinton supporters, claim some of the "different" factor, etc. This move is obviously not based on her experience or qualifications but the fact that she has a vagina and that will get more votes. I don't see how anyone could argue that this was the best choice for the country and not for McCain's self-interest.

 

[QED]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
He should have... he's been doing it for 4 years now. He had a hell of a jump start on everyon else. I'll give you guys that he is one of the smoothest politicians ever. That is one "accolade" I gladly grant. Which is why he is ahead of McCain by 20 points. What? No, he's "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time," he has to be up by at least 20 points. 8 points!? But he announced his VP first, has his convention done.... I just dont get it.

I see this a lot. What you should have trouble getting is that somehow your multiple-decade long experienced, war-hero, straighttalking bi-partisan maverick all american senator is losing to the black, inexperienced freshman senator with an arab name during a war with arabs. Huh.

You mean you should have trouble getting how a charismatic and history-making candidate with a rock-star like following is in a dead-heat with a 72-year old man from a party whose current administration is suffering under record-low approval ratings during a time when the economy is looking down, jobs are dissappearing, international tension is on the rise, and the war in Iraq is looking gloomy.

You or I running as the Democrat candidate should be 20+ points ahead by now. The Democrats should've been able to run out Jimmy Carter as their nominee and have him win in a landslide... much less Obama.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
He should have... he's been doing it for 4 years now. He had a hell of a jump start on everyon else. I'll give you guys that he is one of the smoothest politicians ever. That is one "accolade" I gladly grant. Which is why he is ahead of McCain by 20 points. What? No, he's "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time," he has to be up by at least 20 points. 8 points!? But he announced his VP first, has his convention done.... I just dont get it.

I see this a lot. What you should have trouble getting is that somehow your multiple-decade long experienced, war-hero, straighttalking bi-partisan maverick all american senator is losing to the black, inexperienced freshman senator with an arab name during a war with arabs. Huh.

You mean you should have trouble getting how a charismatic and history-making candidate with a rock-star like following is in a dead-heat with a 72-year old man from a party whose current administration is suffering under record-low approval ratings during a time when the economy is looking down, jobs are dissappearing, international tension is on the rise, and the war in Iraq is looking gloomy.

You or I running as the Democrat candidate should be 20+ points ahead by now. The Democrats should've been able to run out Jimmy Carter as their nominee and have him win in a landslide... much less Obama.

The only people who ever thought the Democratic candidate was going to win by 10 or more points were those with absolutely zero understanding of the American electorate.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Corbett

LOL! The Iraq issue is a done deal. Either president will bring troops home around the same time now due to the Surge that McCain supported and Obama did not. As far as taking care of the soldiers when they return, well, McCain supports that as well, if not more than Obama.

You still have yet to post why you support Obama instead of McCain and how those ideas that Obama holds line up more with your "Republican Views"

Not for McCain it isn't. He's been silent when Bush made the agreements with the Iraqis. He might reverse it. Who knows.

Anyways, another reason why I will vote for Obama is because he's a hard worker. Nothing was handed to him. Even better, he puts others before himself. Those speak volumes about character. Dumping your crippled wife for a rich beauty queen and using her fortunes to run for office says the opposite. Growing up, I remember that being a Republican was all about doing things on your own. Obama has it, McCain doesn't.

Again I'll have to ask. What policies does Obama support that are more "republican" than those of McCain's? You sound just like Obama with your avoiding the question.

I see you're trying to pidgeon hole me when I already gave you reasons. Sorry, fool, you're not going to get me to tow any partyline. As I've said earlier, this nation needs to be rebalanced from a gutter capitalist style to one more in line with what Bush promised back in 2000 when he was running as a compassionate conservative. It's the platform that matter and McCain obsession with war and tax cut for rich Americans strikes me as too selfish.

Like I said earlier, one man embodies the Republican ideals while another is just a pretender.

No actually, you see. You, just like Obama, cant give a straight answer to the question. You said you were a republican who wont vote for McCain because he is not republican enough, but you WILL vote for Obama. So please, feel free any time now to answer WHY you come to that conclusion and WHAT POLICIES DOES OBAMA SUPPORT THAT ARE REPUBLICAN?!?!?!

You must be dense. I've already told you. Furthermore, I told you what it means to be a Republican. Learn to read. Unless you want to have a constructive discussion, I don't think there is more to this.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: QED

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: 351Cleveland
He should have... he's been doing it for 4 years now. He had a hell of a jump start on everyon else. I'll give you guys that he is one of the smoothest politicians ever. That is one "accolade" I gladly grant. Which is why he is ahead of McCain by 20 points. What? No, he's "a leader that God has blessed us with at this time," he has to be up by at least 20 points. 8 points!? But he announced his VP first, has his convention done.... I just dont get it.

I see this a lot. What you should have trouble getting is that somehow your multiple-decade long experienced, war-hero, straighttalking bi-partisan maverick all american senator is losing to the black, inexperienced freshman senator with an arab name during a war with arabs. Huh.

You mean you should have trouble getting how a charismatic and history-making candidate with a rock-star like following is in a dead-heat with a 72-year old man from a party whose current administration is suffering under record-low approval ratings during a time when the economy is looking down, jobs are dissappearing, international tension is on the rise, and the war in Iraq is looking gloomy.

You or I running as the Democrat candidate should be 20+ points ahead by now. The Democrats should've been able to run out Jimmy Carter as their nominee and have him win in a landslide... much less Obama.

Two great responses/replies. Great job to both. That coin certainly does have two sides and it got flipped and landed on both of them 🙂

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Farang

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: classy
She may be attractive, but she doesn't win any Hillary voters and man Biden is going to eat her alive in that debate. This was just a complete and foolish move on so many levels.

To be fair, we really do not know her debate skills.

Her only education was from the University of Idaho and Biden has been a senator for three decades, dealing heavily with foreign policy issues. As someone who has lived in the Palouse can tell you, her education wasn't that great (journalism major to boot) and I don't see how her life experience would have caught her up with Biden. Couple this with McCain being a horrible debater (I think even his supporters would have to concede this, at least in his delivery and tendency to overdue pre-written phrases) and I can see this turning into a blowout.

Therefore she is not a good debater...? Your logic makes no sense.

I have held no public office and do not have a degree, but I am an excellent debater and would have no problem holding my own against anyone.

 

[Jakeisbest]

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Farang
Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

Are you sure about that? This thread is full of people saying that Clinton supporters would NEVER vote for her.

I was (am) a Clinton supporter.

You are suggesting that I would jump ship from Dem to Rep just because Palin is a woman? From the (very) little we do know she has opposite policy view points compared to Hillary.

Honestly this is a joke of a VP pick. Obama is too young and inexperienced to be President but your going to make some one with NO NATIONAL political experience second in line to be President? For real this woman had her husband as acting chief of staff for her office (because that wouldn't cause a conflict of interest).

I am guessing Condi Rice refused the VP spot and McCain figured all women are the same.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: Farang
Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

She doesn't appeal to Clinton voters, she appeals to only the ones that voted for clinton because she was a woman. Palin appeals to true conservatives and was chosen to energize the base, She was chosen because she has hardly any of the negatives the others have and won't split the base.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Corbett
I see someone missed my very carefully chosen words. I said "republican voters" not "republican elected officials"

Seriously? I understand there's slime on both sides but that's your defense? Who do you think elected those republican officials?

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Jakeisbest

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Farang
Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

Are you sure about that? This thread is full of people saying that Clinton supporters would NEVER vote for her.

I was (am) a Clinton supporter.

You are suggesting that I would jump ship from Dem to Rep just because Palin is a woman? From the (very) little we do know about her policies she is pretty opposite most things Hillary believes in.

Honestly this is a joke of a VP pick. Obama is too young and inexperienced to be President but your going to make some one with NO NATIONAL political experience second in line to be President? For real this woman had her husband as acting chief of staff for her office (because that wouldn't cause a conflict of interest).

I am guessing Condi Rice refused the VP spot and McCain figured all women are the same.

She will have a lot of work to do in order to make this look like anything other than a gimmick pick. I'm sure McCain knows this, but man... it's a tough hill to climb. I'm sure he thinks that if he kept the status quo he would lose the election, and so he's going high risk/high reward. I think a lot of people are going to go "Ooh! A woman! and about two weeks later go "wait.... huh?".

I'm pretty sure in a month or two barring some truly amazing politicking on her part this choice will be viewed as a horrible mistake.

 

[RightIsWrong]

LOL....I'm almost expecting the GOP to trot out someone else at the convention next week and have Palin on the big screen screaming "Sike!!! We got you!!"

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: Corbett
I see someone missed my very carefully chosen words. I said "republican voters" not "republican elected officials"

Seriously? I understand there's slime on both sides but that's your defense? Who do you think elected those republican officials?

Are you aware of what happened in 2006 because of the actions of those republicans?

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Corbett

LOL! The Iraq issue is a done deal. Either president will bring troops home around the same time now due to the Surge that McCain supported and Obama did not. As far as taking care of the soldiers when they return, well, McCain supports that as well, if not more than Obama.

You still have yet to post why you support Obama instead of McCain and how those ideas that Obama holds line up more with your "Republican Views"

Not for McCain it isn't. He's been silent when Bush made the agreements with the Iraqis. He might reverse it. Who knows.

Anyways, another reason why I will vote for Obama is because he's a hard worker. Nothing was handed to him. Even better, he puts others before himself. Those speak volumes about character. Dumping your crippled wife for a rich beauty queen and using her fortunes to run for office says the opposite. Growing up, I remember that being a Republican was all about doing things on your own. Obama has it, McCain doesn't.

Again I'll have to ask. What policies does Obama support that are more "republican" than those of McCain's? You sound just like Obama with your avoiding the question.

I see you're trying to pidgeon hole me when I already gave you reasons. Sorry, fool, you're not going to get me to tow any partyline. As I've said earlier, this nation needs to be rebalanced from a gutter capitalist style to one more in line with what Bush promised back in 2000 when he was running as a compassionate conservative. It's the platform that matter and McCain obsession with war and tax cut for rich Americans strikes me as too selfish.

Like I said earlier, one man embodies the Republican ideals while another is just a pretender.

No actually, you see. You, just like Obama, cant give a straight answer to the question. You said you were a republican who wont vote for McCain because he is not republican enough, but you WILL vote for Obama. So please, feel free any time now to answer WHY you come to that conclusion and WHAT POLICIES DOES OBAMA SUPPORT THAT ARE REPUBLICAN?!?!?!

You must be dense. I've already told you. Furthermore, I told you what it means to be a Republican. Learn to read. Unless you want to have a constructive discussion, I don't think there is more to this.

I must be having trouble finding it. Please BOLD it.

 

[Brovane]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Jakeisbest

Originally posted by: ShotgunSteven

Originally posted by: Farang
Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

Are you sure about that? This thread is full of people saying that Clinton supporters would NEVER vote for her.

I was (am) a Clinton supporter.

You are suggesting that I would jump ship from Dem to Rep just because Palin is a woman? From the (very) little we do know about her policies she is pretty opposite most things Hillary believes in.

Honestly this is a joke of a VP pick. Obama is too young and inexperienced to be President but your going to make some one with NO NATIONAL political experience second in line to be President? For real this woman had her husband as acting chief of staff for her office (because that wouldn't cause a conflict of interest).

I am guessing Condi Rice refused the VP spot and McCain figured all women are the same.

She will have a lot of work to do in order to make this look like anything other than a gimmick pick. I'm sure McCain knows this, but man... it's a tough hill to climb. I'm sure he thinks that if he kept the status quo he would lose the election, and so he's going high risk/high reward. I think a lot of people are going to go "Ooh! A woman! and about two weeks later go "wait.... huh?".

I'm pretty sure in a month or two barring some truly amazing politicking on her part this choice will be viewed as a horrible mistake.

I think that a lot will hang on how she performs in front of the press. If she comes off as knowing what she is talking about and comes across as educated she will be treated seriously. Especially if she does good in the VP debates. If she can come across in these debates as good and make Biden look bad this could get serious. This will be touch hill to climb.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Corbett

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Dari
I see another trend: All his women have been beauty queens. Regular women may not take too kindly to women that get ahead in (John McCain's) life simply because of looks. We know Hillary didn't.

Didn't regular women take to John Kennedy because he was 'handsome'?

I guess being good looking is only a good thing if you are a Democrat.

Well, now the (R)'s truly have 'Beauty & The Beast'! Sorry but McCain looks like the Cryptkeeper.

Better than looking like this guy :

http://travel.webshots.com/pho...0203870053664610WszckZ

......

 

[Jakeisbest]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Farang
Also how is this at all "Country First?" There are much more qualified candidates who share similar values. McCain put McCain first in picking someone to appeal to Clinton voters.

She doesn't appeal to Clinton voters, she appeals to only the ones that voted for clinton because she was a woman. Palin appeals to true conservatives and was chosen to energize the base, She was chosen because she has hardly any of the negatives the others have and won't split the base.

Hardly any of the negatives? What role does she fill? She has no foreign policy experience, no national policy experience, and not even very much State policy experience (and her state experience was in Alaska at that).

How can McCain with a straight face tell the public that Obama does not have enough experience to lead and then pick a VP with less experience?

McCain has lost a huge line of attack to gain what? A woman as a VP? Some one would have to have been voting based solely on Gender to jump ships. I suppose their are people that stupid out there but I assume they are in states that McCain was going to win any way.