Sarah Palin to be McCain's VP!!

[Lemon law]

It sure sounds like her brother in law is a nut and should be fired. I doubt that particular scandal will discredit her by itself, but Alaska is a wash in somewhat dirty oil money, and if she was on the take, every investigative reporter in the country is going to take a shot at finding it.

Other than that, I think she will get some of the Hillary woman vote, and unless it backfires, McCain probably made a good choice that does not alienate any of the GOP bases. The other thing worth mentioning is that she is going to have to be a very quick study, with only 30 days or so to get up to speed on a huge variety of national issues. She could really discredit herself and McCain in the VP debates.

That is just a surface take, as I know little about her, but we will all soon know more about her if she is the McCain VP pick.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Also you're trying to sell the argument that Obama is only where he is because he's black, which is the problem with the McSamer's, just don't get it.

In my opinion it's the only reason he's up there. If a white guy with Obama's credentials and agenda tried to run he wouldn't have made it past the primaries. The entire election is about race. You're kidding yourself if you don't see that.

For the record I don't support either candidate. They're equally unqualified in my eye. Just saying, McCain's team formulated the a decent counter to Obama. First black guy in office or first woman in office.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: Dari
Guys, with this pick, we can all agree that, when it comes to women, McCain knows how to use them. He hasn't given two squirts of piss about women in his electoral history until he found it necessary to become President. This vagrant attempt at pandering will fool no one.

I'm thinking that there will be a blog/article real soon saying something like:

John McCain threw his first wife to the curb after a car accident left her deformed for a beauty queen heiress who's fortunes and connections fueled his political campaign. Now, he is doing the same with his VP selection. Going after a beauty queen who will once again help advance his political ambitions.

I see another trend: All his women have been beauty queens. Regular women may not take too kindly to women that get ahead in (John McCain's) life simply because of looks. We know Hillary didn't.

Didn't regular women take to John Kennedy because he was 'handsome'?

I guess being good looking is only a good thing if you are a Democrat.

Genius, he was of the opposite sex. A lot of women resent beauty queens because they don't have to work hard in life, just sit back and let everything come to them. The blatant pandering here is just awful. When he needs them, McCain likes his women in the mold of Barbie dolls. But, G-d forbid they should get disfigured, or McCain will dump them on the side of the road. To him, women are tools for greater ambition rather than partners.

You think Palin became governor by sitting back and letting things come to her?

It's obviously pandering. Doesn't mean it won't work.

It is pandering and most women will resent it. There's got to be substance under that pretty face or else this ill just be insulting women. 1 year as governor undermines McCain's message tremendously. But I don't think he had a choice.

 

[prontospyder]

Great, gutsy move by McCain! The McCain camp must of took a page off Blizzard's book for making a new unveiling. Keeping it a secret for that long and throwing the media/people so many curves.

Told one Democrat coworker about it this morning and she is considering switching parties.

 

[Xavier434]

If there is one thing that women hate more than men who do not share their views, it is other women who do not share their views. So, if any of you have any hopes and dreams of democratic women jumping ship here then get over it. That goes double for current female Hilary supporters. Female democrats are often very scornful towards republican women and you know what they say about a woman's scorn...

Most women I know do not think like men when it comes to their vote.

 

[Corbett]

Originally posted by: Robor

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Dari
I see another trend: All his women have been beauty queens. Regular women may not take too kindly to women that get ahead in (John McCain's) life simply because of looks. We know Hillary didn't.

Didn't regular women take to John Kennedy because he was 'handsome'?

I guess being good looking is only a good thing if you are a Democrat.

Well, now the (R)'s truly have 'Beauty & The Beast'! Sorry but McCain looks like the Cryptkeeper.

Better than looking like this guy :

http://travel.webshots.com/pho...0203870053664610WszckZ

 

[waggy]

wow seems it is either going to clinch it for mcain or going to drop him out. not sure this is a smart idea.

 

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: ayabe
Also you're trying to sell the argument that Obama is only where he is because he's black, which is the problem with the McSamer's, just don't get it.

In my opinion it's the only reason he's up there. If a white guy with Obama's credentials and agenda tried to run he wouldn't have made it past the primaries. The entire election is about race. You're kidding yourself if you don't see that.

For the record I don't support either candidate. They're equally unqualified in my eye. Just saying, McCain's team formulated the a decent counter to Obama. First black guy in office or first woman in office.

I think that is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on this board...and that is quite an accomplishment.

Obama is where he is because he is smart, charismatic, opportunistic and a very gifted public speaker. He knew what the people were wanting to hear and he sung a beautiful ballad to them. He knew that there was an opening if he was able to get people out to vote in droves and won enough of the small states to equal the big states and he did just that.

To say that his primary reason for getting to this point is because he is black is pure idiocy.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Dari

It is pandering and most women will resent it. There's got to be substance under that pretty face or else this ill just be insulting women. 1 year as governor undermines McCain's message tremendously. But I don't think he had a choice.

Shrug, we will see. I'll let her speak for a couple days before determining she has no 'substance'.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: loki8481

Palin is strongly pro-life and belongs to Feminists for Life.[12] She opposes same-sex marriage, but she has stated that she has gay friends and is receptive to gay and lesbian concerns about discrimination.[12] While the previous administration did not implement same-sex benefits, Palin complied with a state Supreme Court order and signed them into law.[32]

I wouldn't really characterize that as anti-gay when Obama opposes same-sex marriage as well.

And she also signed into law same-sex benefits. So no, not at all anti-gay, maybe pro male-female marriage definition, but not anti-gay.

Oh boy do I love semantics!

She was ORDERED by a court to sign it into law. She then said she wanted the citizens to vote in a referendum on whether or not to repeal those benefits! So if most of Alaska thought discriminating against gays (for health benefits!) was ok, she'd be all for it. :thumbsdown:

Semantics? She vetoed a bill that would have revoked same-sex benefits not because she disagreed with it, but because she felt it would have been unconstitutional as it directly contradicted the state court's prior ruling. It was a practical measure since a lawsuit would have resulted in hundreds of thousands of wasted dollars for an outcome that was evident from the get go. She is is definitely smart and forward looking, but not gay friendly.

http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?2006/12/29/6

So you are faulting her for following the law and not letting her own personal beliefs get in the way of her professional decision?

 

[jpeyton]

I don't think the same women who respected Hillary's experience, leadership, charisma and policies would vote for a young inexperienced beauty queen who stands opposite Hillary on every important issue. In fact, seeing the younger, prettier woman get the nod over more experienced players usually sows divisions between women.

Beauty queen Palin in a VP debate:

"I think we should, like, totally stay in THEE EYE-RACK for at least a hundred years, or something."

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Dari

It is pandering and most women will resent it. There's got to be substance under that pretty face or else this ill just be insulting women. 1 year as governor undermines McCain's message tremendously. But I don't think he had a choice.

Shrug, we will see. I'll let her speak for a couple days before determining she has no 'substance'.

Well, let's let the investigators do their job, not letting her speak.

 

[rpanic]

Time for Obama to dump Biden for a female asian midget to one up him.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
To say that his primary reason for getting to this point is because he is black is pure idiocy.

Ok, not the only or primary reason. But a huge modifier. Huge.

 

[ayabe]

Hey well looks like she has some baggage:

Gov. Sarah Palin on Wednesday revealed an audio recording that shows an aide pressuring the Public Safety Department to fire a state trooper embroiled in a custody battle with her sister.

Palin, who has previously said her administration didn?t exert pressure to get rid of trooper Mike Wooten, also disclosed that members of her staff had made about two dozen contacts with public safety officials about the trooper.

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Yes, yes, more of what we need. Personal politics being used as a basis for hiring/firing someone.

Quick someone get the Justice Department on the phone, we have a ringer here!

 

[quest55720]

Hell yes the perfect choice to win this election. She is pro drilling pro including anwr she is also pro gun. She is a solid conservative to sure up the base. Maybe this can also steal a few hillary supporters as a bonus. That and her being a woman will steal the spotlight from that little speech Obama made last night.

 

[pstylesss]

Originally posted by: jpeyton
I don't think the same women who respected Hillary's experience, leadership, charisma and policies would vote for a young inexperienced beauty queen who stands opposite Hillary on every important issue. In fact, seeing the younger, prettier woman get the nod over more experienced players usually sows divisions between women.

Beauty queen Palin in a VP debate:

"I think we should, like, totally stay in THEE EYE-RACK for at least a hundred years, or something."

Do you actually have anything to fault her for or are you just going to spend the entire time acting like a complete fool?

 

[Pastore]

Suprise surprise, she holds high ranking seats in multiple oil Commissions in Alaska.

HEY GOP FUCKS, OIL IS NOT THE FUTURE.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Why would he choose a woman that has four month old child? I'm not saying she isn't capable, but wouldn't it be kind of difficult to be the vice president and have an infant at the same time?

 

[musicman64]

Anyone know who's going to get the earliest poll out?

 

[winnar111]

IMO, the idea behind this type of pick is to keep her relevant enough to appeal to the female crowd but not so relevant that the experience line becomes as big of an issue. It's a balancing act.

Barack has to stump on a daily basis. She won't.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
I'm thinking that there will be a blog/article real soon saying something like:

John McCain threw his first wife to the curb after a car accident left her deformed for a beauty queen heiress who's fortunes and connections fueled his political campaign. Now, he is doing the same with his VP selection. Going after a beauty queen who will once again help advance his political ambitions.

his first wife doesn't bear him a grudge for it, why are you so bitter?

 

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: Chris
Well, he just cut the legs out from under Obama. All the Hilarity endorsing middle-aged women would consider this a bigger progressive win than a black guy in office. If only he went with Conde Rice there wouldn't even be a point in having an election.

I don't know if Condoleeza would have drawn women to vote for her, becasue I don't know her stance on typical "woman" issues. I can say that she would definitely not have drawn much of the Black vote. Uninformed people always make the, pretty insulting, mistake of thinking that Black people will vote for any Black candidate, or women will vote for any woman candidate.

If Obama was a Republican, a white Democrat would easily beat him out with the Black vote. Blacks already vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, so a Black person running as a democrat obviously got a lot of support. The same is largely true for Hillary voters.

It's why this pick is a mistake. This woman is not Hillary, and woman voters are able to tell the difference.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Why would he choose a woman that has four month old child? I'm not saying she isn't capable, but wouldn't it be kind of difficult to be the vice president and have an infant at the same time?

VP is practically a ceremonial post.

 

[quest55720]

Originally posted by: Pastore
Suprise surprise, she holds high ranking seats in multiple oil Commissions in Alaska.

HEY GOP FUCKS, OIL IS NOT THE FUTURE.

It sure the hell is the present and right now is killing the working class. That is Obama's problem he is thinking to much about the future. He has left out anything to bridge us to next gen cars/fuel. We need to drill because it will be 20-30 years before we can get people over to next gen cars/fuel. If a 3rd world country like brazil can get ultra deep water oil in 3 years I think we can get shallow shelf oil very fast.