Sarah Palin - "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time"

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Meaning MOST of both R and D supporters believe in bat-shit crazy ideas like this. *scary*.

Sorry, that is simply untrue. Young earth creationism, dinosaurs roaming the earth with humans, are beliefs held by a small sect of the hardcore religious right.

Most Christians I know personally have resolved the facts of science with their faith in a common sense manner. They're not stupid; they don't interpret every word in the Bible literally.

50% of Americans are young earth creationists

No I'd say it's more like 20% which is the same percentage of Americans who think Bush has done a good job.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

My point was that there are alot of people, spread out across all religions, that have crazy beliefs that go against science. Sarah Palin is just one of them, along with anyone who claims to be Christian.

not too subtle bash against Christianity. 😛

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Meaning MOST of both R and D supporters believe in bat-shit crazy ideas like this. *scary*.

Sorry, that is simply untrue. Young earth creationism, dinosaurs roaming the earth with humans, are beliefs held by a small sect of the hardcore religious right.

Most Christians I know personally have resolved the facts of science with their faith in a common sense manner. They're not stupid; they don't interpret every word in the Bible literally.

50% of Americans are young earth creationists

100% of those who make this claim are wrong.

I personally don't care if Palin believes in a young earth or not. I think she's an idiot for doing so, but meh. My concern is that she's the type to attempt to "encourage" her POV through her political office

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: crisscross
Come on guys give her credit where it's due at least she accepts Dinosaurs existed!

humm good point

 

[WhipperSnapper]

To the OP--thank you for posting this story and the URL; it's juicy. Her belief speaks to her IQ (apparently low), her education, and her religious beliefs. I just wish there were a way to let everyone in America know about this. Think Dinosaur-gate or Dinogate

 

[ayabe]

Yeah well there's a sizable portion of the electorate that believes this absolutely without reservations.

That creationism museum that has attracted millions in Ohio or wherever has exhibits showing cave people riding on them.

I would be willing to bet that ~20% of the people in the US believe this.

Can't wait till I go to Orlando again in few weeks, I'm gonna be sure to hit up the "Tour of the Holy Land" theme park, as well as the "Mary Queen of the Universe" extravaganza.

I'll be sure to pick up some schwag for P&N.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Meaning MOST of both R and D supporters believe in bat-shit crazy ideas like this. *scary*.

Sorry, that is simply untrue. Young earth creationism, dinosaurs roaming the earth with humans, are beliefs held by a small sect of the hardcore religious right.

Most Christians I know personally have resolved the facts of science with their faith in a common sense manner. They're not stupid; they don't interpret every word in the Bible literally.

50% of Americans are young earth creationists

100% of those who make this claim are wrong.

I personally don't care if Palin believes in a young earth or not. I think she's an idiot for doing so, but meh. My concern is that she's the type to attempt to "encourage" her POV through her political office

Read the straight dope article. It's still obvious that we are a mostly creationist country, with a lot of young earth creationists.

You should care. Not only will she encourage her "POV", but if she believes the earth is 6000 years old and humans walked with dinosaurs, that means she's too dumb to be vice president. End of story.

 

[Dufusyte]

Dinosaurs did coexist with humans up to recorded times; they were a threat to both humans and livestock. Every culture celebrates the brave men who slew these predators. These are the narratives of dragons and dragon slayers. When all cultures throughout the world speak of the same thing, you can be assured there is a basis in fact.

And some dinosaurs continue to live today, especially in the waters. The "millions of years old" coelacanth is a recent example. There are also the scottish plesiosaurs.

photo

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Dufusyte
Dinosaurs did coexist with humans up to recorded times; they were a threat to both humans and livestock. Every culture celebrates the brave men who slew these predators. These are the narratives of dragons and dragon slayers. When all cultures throughout the world speak of the same thing, you can be assured there is a basis in fact.

And some dinosaurs continue to live today, especially in the waters. The "millions of years old" coelacanth is a recent example. There are also the scottish plesiosaurs.

photo

You aren't serious, are you?

 

[SagaLore]

Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Its sad that these are the issues people are focusing on.

If we had a good candidate, but he/she believed in reincarnation, he/she would still be a good candidate.

 

[TheSlamma]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Its sad that these are the issues people are focusing on.

If we had a good candidate, but he/she believed in reincarnation, he/she would still be a good candidate.

If someone can't pick up a science book and see evolution is not just a "theory" then why would I expect them to even look at the laws they are passing? and if they did would they be applying their uninformed beliefs to it?

I prefer to have my decision makers be informed and educated on facts. That is why. You can still be a Chrisitan and support evolution. But when they shut the door on facts thats when they shut the door on my vote.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Its sad that these are the issues people are focusing on.

If we had a good candidate, but he/she believed in reincarnation, he/she would still be a good candidate.

This is not a good analogy friend. NO ONE knows what happens after we die. EVERYONE knows dinosaurs went extinct millions of years before man was created by god 6000 ago.

 

[Bowfinger]

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
50% of Americans are young earth creationists

100% of those who make this claim are wrong.

I personally don't care if Palin believes in a young earth or not. I think she's an idiot for doing so, but meh. My concern is that she's the type to attempt to "encourage" her POV through her political office

My thoughts exactly. There are plenty of solid reasons to scorn Palin. Her fringe beliefs about dinosaurs aren't among them. I'm afraid blowing this out of proportion will backfire, just as the whole Palin baby story did. People believe all sorts of loopy things due to their religious faith. They only become legitimate campaign issues when one can show they will lead to bad public policy if elected. I don't care if Palin dreams about riding dinosaurs at night. I do care if she spends her waking hours trying to push those beliefs into the public sphere through legislation or regulation.

What is Palin's record as an elected official in Alaska? Aside from the possible book banning -- a legitimate area for concern -- are there any other signs she tried to use her public position to propagate her religious beliefs? If so, there's the issue. If not, let this story die.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger
What is Palin's record as an elected official in Alaska? Aside from the possible book banning -- a legitimate area for concern -- are there any other signs she tried to use her public position to propagate her religious beliefs? If so, there's the issue. If not, let this story die.

Well as I've pointed out before, even if she doesn't advocate teaching a chapter on how cavemen cooked their dino-kabobs, having a person hostile to established science authoring the budget results in less funds allocated to research, since praying is free and just as efficient anyway.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: Bowfinger

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Throckmorton
50% of Americans are young earth creationists

100% of those who make this claim are wrong.

I personally don't care if Palin believes in a young earth or not. I think she's an idiot for doing so, but meh. My concern is that she's the type to attempt to "encourage" her POV through her political office

My thoughts exactly. There are plenty of solid reasons to scorn Palin. Her fringe beliefs about dinosaurs aren't among them. I'm afraid blowing this out of proportion will backfire, just as the whole Palin baby story did. People believe all sorts of loopy things due to their religious faith. They only become legitimate campaign issues when one can show they will lead to bad public policy if elected. I don't care if Palin dreams about riding dinosaurs at night. I do care if she spends her waking hours trying to push those beliefs into the public sphere through legislation or regulation.

What is Palin's record as an elected official in Alaska? Aside from the possible book banning -- a legitimate area for concern -- are there any other signs she tried to use her public position to propagate her religious beliefs? If so, there's the issue. If not, let this story die.

I think our "beloved" media is more concerned with Palin in a bathing suit circa 1980 then this story. I suppose we should be grateful? 😛

 

[cumhail]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: loki8481

Originally posted by: Dari
But you're right. It's not like we don't have a video of her being blessed by a witch hunter.

because tolerance for other cultures is a terrible thing...

I think you're a witch and that we should burn you.

It would be intolerant of you to disagree.

Nuh-uh, I weigh way more than a duck...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: Hayabusa Rider

Originally posted by: Throckmorton

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Meaning MOST of both R and D supporters believe in bat-shit crazy ideas like this. *scary*.

Sorry, that is simply untrue. Young earth creationism, dinosaurs roaming the earth with humans, are beliefs held by a small sect of the hardcore religious right.

Most Christians I know personally have resolved the facts of science with their faith in a common sense manner. They're not stupid; they don't interpret every word in the Bible literally.

50% of Americans are young earth creationists

100% of those who make this claim are wrong.

I personally don't care if Palin believes in a young earth or not. I think she's an idiot for doing so, but meh. My concern is that she's the type to attempt to "encourage" her POV through her political office

Read the straight dope article. It's still obvious that we are a mostly creationist country, with a lot of young earth creationists.

You should care. Not only will she encourage her "POV", but if she believes the earth is 6000 years old and humans walked with dinosaurs, that means she's too dumb to be vice president. End of story.

50% of Americans are young earth creationists

Looks like you said that 50% of Americans are young earth creationists.

Note that I didn't say I agreed with her and in fact I think she's an idiot too, however the tendency is for people to say things because they believe that's how it should be, then demonize based on their own "facts" which are pretty much as wrong headed as thinking dinosaurs walked the earth with humans. Neither type is suited for office IMO.

The truth, which few are interested in, is that a great many people feel that God somehow participated in the shaping of humanity in some form. You may or may not agree with that POV, however that's not the same as saying the earth is 6k or however old she claims.

Does that mean I support Palin? No, not at all but I don't support misrepresentation either.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Dufusyte
Dinosaurs did coexist with humans up to recorded times; they were a threat to both humans and livestock. Every culture celebrates the brave men who slew these predators. These are the narratives of dragons and dragon slayers. When all cultures throughout the world speak of the same thing, you can be assured there is a basis in fact.

And some dinosaurs continue to live today, especially in the waters. The "millions of years old" coelacanth is a recent example. There are also the scottish plesiosaurs.

photo

?

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Did she ever say that "Dinosaurs are Jesus ponies"?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Dufusyte
Dinosaurs did coexist with humans up to recorded times; they were a threat to both humans and livestock. Every culture celebrates the brave men who slew these predators. These are the narratives of dragons and dragon slayers. When all cultures throughout the world speak of the same thing, you can be assured there is a basis in fact.

And some dinosaurs continue to live today, especially in the waters. The "millions of years old" coelacanth is a recent example. There are also the scottish plesiosaurs.

photo

?

Be warned, that comes from one of the worst looking web pages ever. 😛

 

[Skitzer]

He said .... she said.
LA Times, cmon' .... got a more credible source than this? It's well known that Stephen Braun has been writing negative Palin pieces since she was selected by McCain.
Criticize her on her documented and verifiable stances .... not on some bullshit thrown out there by unknowns.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
Everyone is entitled to their beliefs. Its sad that these are the issues people are focusing on.

If we had a good candidate, but he/she believed in reincarnation, he/she would still be a good candidate.

They could still be a good candidate, but believing things that are manifestly, provably false is a large black mark against them. What people mainly evaluate about candidates before voting for them is the policies they support and the judgment that you think they would exercise when in office.

Believing in things that are obviously untrue speaks poorly as to how someone would evaluate facts and come to decisions when they are in office, so that definitely hurts how good a candidate they are.

 

[Squisher]

It is funny that you are allowed to believe in a Magic Man in the Sky, but not this.


You fail, your delusion is greater than mine!!!

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: Skitzer
He said .... she said.
LA Times, cmon' .... got a more credible source than this? It's well known that Stephen Braun has been writing negative Palin pieces since she was selected by McCain.
Criticize her on her documented and verifiable stances .... not on some bullshit thrown out there by unknowns.

Do you have any reason to doubt that she would believe something like that? I don't.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Squisher
It is funny that you are allowed to believe in a Magic Man in the Sky, but not this.

You fail, your delusion is greater than mine!!!

The magic man in the sky has a few things in his favor that this doesn't have. He's not really provably false. The dinosaurs walking with humans thing has a whole gigantic pile of actual empirical evidence against it, the sky beardo just has the laws of probability.

I agree that they are both delusions, but I guess the difference would be similar between believing in the god everyone believes in now, and believing in Zeus. I can walk to the top of Mount Olympus and see he's not sitting up there.