Sarah Palin - "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time"

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fskimospy

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Originally posted by: ExarKun333
I guess we don't live in the 'Land of the Free" anymore...

Apparently religious freedom is not valued? There are a lot of sometimes strange values in many religions, get over it.

Nobody's trying to stop her from believing in dinosaurs walking the earth with humans, but that sort of thing is certainly a good reason to not want to vote for someone to be Vice President.

How does this have anything to do with religious freedom? Someone can believe in Zeus for all I care, but I sure as shit am going to view that ridiculous belief as a reason not to vote them into high office.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: ExarKun333
I guess we don't live in the 'Land of the Free" anymore...

Apparently religious freedom is not valued? There are a lot of sometimes strange values in many religions, get over it.

Freedom of religion doesn't extend to imposing one's beliefs on others. Palin has stated that she favors teaching creationism in the public schools. That's way beyond her right to believe in her own ooga booga mystery oil.
 

DrPizza

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If she believes that dinosaurs and man walked the earth at the same time simply means that she's capable of ignoring mountains of evidence in favor of some belief that she's been taught she must abide for fear of burning in hell if she believes otherwise. We don't need another president who ignores evidence and comes to his own conclusions based on the conclusion he had already reached before the evidence was presented.
 

Mani

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Originally posted by: Quiksilver
WTF?

ANCHORAGE -- Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.

After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs.

Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and has regularly criticized Palin in recent years on his liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska.

...must of been McCain (talking about the part italicized).

I really hope they ask her about this in the debate.
 

Stoneburner

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Freedom of religion means freedom from reality for too many people.

I wonder how many people demand freedom of religion when certain religions favor marriages of 12 year old girls.
 

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Originally posted by: Mani
Originally posted by: Quiksilver
WTF?

ANCHORAGE -- Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.

After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs.

Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage and has regularly criticized Palin in recent years on his liberal political blog, called Progressive Alaska.

...must of been McCain (talking about the part italicized).

I really hope they ask her about this in the debate.

And, then they can ask Biden about immaculate conception.

Then Palin will get the the one about resurrection.

And, then.......

Even though I'm an atheist, I think there are more substantial reasons to question her ability to be the next in line to the presidency than her religious beliefs. There must be 10000 things in the Bible that fly in the face of scientifically accepted principles.
 

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From his Wiki....

Hugh Hewitt (born February 22, 1956) is an American radio talk show host, author and blogger. He comments on politics and society from a conservative and evangelical Christian viewpoint, and frequently expresses his opinions on Media bias in the United States.

I read the transcript and can't tell. Were those softballs or beachballs? :p
 

Throckmorton

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eskimospy
I'm not referring to her religion, and I already said that there were other things to consider.

I'm referring to her willingness to ignore scientific evidence. I don't see how it's possible to say that a willingness to ignore scientific evidence won't have a negative impact on her governance.

fair enough... however, to make a truly valid point, you'd need to provide evidence that she ignored scientific evidence while serving Alaska, and that doing so negatively impacted a particular policy.

Otherwise, isn't it conjecture?

She ignores scientific evidence by instituting a wolf bounty program and when that failed, instituting aerial wolf hunting.
 

HomerJS

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Originally posted by: Robor
From his Wiki....

Hugh Hewitt (born February 22, 1956) is an American radio talk show host, author and blogger. He comments on politics and society from a conservative and evangelical Christian viewpoint, and frequently expresses his opinions on Media bias in the United States.

I read the transcript and can't tell. Were those softballs or beachballs? :p

Those questions were beachballs setup on a tee and then Hugh said, swing Sarah.

Real throwup material but her supporters would say any questions other then these would be "gotchas" or unfair.

 
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CBS should play it all. Are they trying to protect her for some reason and favor the Republicans?

According to that webpage, Couric asked Palin something to the effect about whether she could name some Supreme Court cases other than Roe v. Wade and she couldn't name any. Gah.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: jpeyton
I think history will judge Palin as the plague rat of McCain's campaign.

I've seen more smart conservatives reject McCain because of Palin than accept him.

The Stockton Record, a daily that has endorsed the Republican candidate every year since 1936 just released their endorsement for Obama. Palin was cited as one of the few key reasons for their historic choice.

the handful of smart republicans i know (i only know about a handful of each) are generally embarrassed or disgusted by her, but the idiots really seem to like her.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
She ignores scientific evidence by instituting a wolf bounty program and when that failed, instituting aerial wolf hunting.
OK then, please explain the connection between that decision and her religious beliefs -- ie. the topic of this thread.

btw, I'm a wolf lover, so trust me, that really pisses me off... but, I'm just not sure it has anything to do with her religion, which is what we're talking about. So please explain...
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
She ignores scientific evidence by instituting a wolf bounty program and when that failed, instituting aerial wolf hunting.
OK then, please explain the connection between that decision and her religious beliefs -- ie. the topic of this thread.

btw, I'm a wolf lover, so trust me, that really pisses me off... but, I'm just not sure it has anything to do with her religion, which is what we're talking about. So please explain...

Willingness to ignore scientific evidence? If you can believe dinosaurs and man walked the earth together with all the evidence against it, you can certainly discount what some scientist says about wolves.
 

palehorse

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
She ignores scientific evidence by instituting a wolf bounty program and when that failed, instituting aerial wolf hunting.
OK then, please explain the connection between that decision and her religious beliefs -- ie. the topic of this thread.

btw, I'm a wolf lover, so trust me, that really pisses me off... but, I'm just not sure it has anything to do with her religion, which is what we're talking about. So please explain...

Willingness to ignore scientific evidence? If you can believe dinosaurs and man walked the earth together with all the evidence against it, you can certainly discount what some scientist says about wolves.
OK.. so... the issue has nothing to do with her religion?

got it.
 

QED

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Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
She ignores scientific evidence by instituting a wolf bounty program and when that failed, instituting aerial wolf hunting.
OK then, please explain the connection between that decision and her religious beliefs -- ie. the topic of this thread.

btw, I'm a wolf lover, so trust me, that really pisses me off... but, I'm just not sure it has anything to do with her religion, which is what we're talking about. So please explain...

Willingness to ignore scientific evidence? If you can believe dinosaurs and man walked the earth together with all the evidence against it, you can certainly discount what some scientist says about wolves.



Why in the world are we taking what some random yahoo off the street says as gospel and running with it?

I could make up a story about how I met with Michelle Obama five years ago and she kept saying "When my husband is President, whitey is going down!" and it would be just as credible as this.

 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
She ignores scientific evidence by instituting a wolf bounty program and when that failed, instituting aerial wolf hunting.
OK then, please explain the connection between that decision and her religious beliefs -- ie. the topic of this thread.

btw, I'm a wolf lover, so trust me, that really pisses me off... but, I'm just not sure it has anything to do with her religion, which is what we're talking about. So please explain...

Willingness to ignore scientific evidence? If you can believe dinosaurs and man walked the earth together with all the evidence against it, you can certainly discount what some scientist says about wolves.
OK.. so... the issue has nothing to do with her religion?

got it.

No...it is directly related.

In the first example she is ignoring scientific evidence for her religion, in the second she is ignoring scientific evidence, well, for some other reason but she's still ignoring it. For whatever reason, as manifested through her religious beliefs about dinosaurs, she doesn't base her views on the best evidence available, instead substituting something else.

Remember before when I said this would be a problem? This is a reason why.
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: QED
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: palehorse
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
She ignores scientific evidence by instituting a wolf bounty program and when that failed, instituting aerial wolf hunting.
OK then, please explain the connection between that decision and her religious beliefs -- ie. the topic of this thread.

btw, I'm a wolf lover, so trust me, that really pisses me off... but, I'm just not sure it has anything to do with her religion, which is what we're talking about. So please explain...

Willingness to ignore scientific evidence? If you can believe dinosaurs and man walked the earth together with all the evidence against it, you can certainly discount what some scientist says about wolves.



Why in the world are we taking what some random yahoo off the street says as gospel and running with it?

I could make up a story about how I met with Michelle Obama five years ago and she kept saying "When my husband is President, whitey is going down!" and it would be just as credible as this.

The dinosaurs thing is just one example. She also wants to teach intelligent design in schools, that also requires a willingness to ignore scientific evidence. I'm not aware of anyone contesting the music teacher's account, but even if they do the point still stands.
 

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If Palin believes Dinos and man lived together, what other wacko sh*t does she believe?
Saddam was responsible for 9-11?
 

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This is a free country (kinda) where people are free to participate, or not participate, in any religion they wish.

That being said, Rational thinking Americans should have concerns when politicians (aka fallible human beings) are touted as having been "chosen by God" to lead this nation.

Whenever a candidate for political office is being hyped as "Chosen by God" it should resonate and send a shiver through the populace. Individuals and administrations and cults and juntas operating under the assumption of "divine right" often act in the most reactionary of ways. The historical references are too vast to enumerate.