Sarah Conner Cronicles ... see the pilot (OFFICIAL THREAD)

[Agentbolt]

The Terminators all seemed way too damn human. They might try to explain that away later, but it was off-putting. Half the fun of the original movies was how dead and lifeless the Terminators really acted.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
The Terminators all seemed way too damn human. They might try to explain that away later, but it was off-putting. Half the fun of the original movies was how dead and lifeless the Terminators really acted.

To be fair, the fanchise has been going downhill fast on that aspect since T2. Only the original terminator was really believable. He only spoke just barely long enough to get the job done.

 

[Agentbolt]

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
The Terminators all seemed way too damn human. They might try to explain that away later, but it was off-putting. Half the fun of the original movies was how dead and lifeless the Terminators really acted.

To be fair, the fanchise has been going downhill fast on that aspect since T2. Only the original terminator was really believable. He only spoke just barely long enough to get the job done.

Well, again to be fair, the 2nd and 3rd ones explained that by default the Terminators are sent back through time with their "learning" function turned off, so when they turned it back on, they're going to act slightly more human. Although that was in some random deleted scene, so maybe you didn't see that. Point is, they did try to explain that away.

Summer Glau Terminator especially took it WAY too far though. Laughing and chatting in the hall at a high school? What the hell? It's almost like they realized they'd gone too far later on and dialed it back a bit, too. It was annoying and made it difficult to watch sometimes.

 

[imported_Imp]

One more thing, they should have opened the pilot with the Terminators arriving to set the tone. I know it's the Sarah Connor Chronicles, but those opening scenes were so important in the movies.

 

[vi edit]

Originally posted by: Agentbolt

Originally posted by: PingSpike

Originally posted by: Agentbolt
The Terminators all seemed way too damn human. They might try to explain that away later, but it was off-putting. Half the fun of the original movies was how dead and lifeless the Terminators really acted.

To be fair, the fanchise has been going downhill fast on that aspect since T2. Only the original terminator was really believable. He only spoke just barely long enough to get the job done.

Well, again to be fair, the 2nd and 3rd ones explained that by default the Terminators are sent back through time with their "learning" function turned off, so when they turned it back on, they're going to act slightly more human. Although that was in some random deleted scene, so maybe you didn't see that. Point is, they did try to explain that away.

Summer Glau Terminator especially took it WAY too far though. Laughing and chatting in the hall at a high school? What the hell? It's almost like they realized they'd gone too far later on and dialed it back a bit, too. It was annoying and made it difficult to watch sometimes.

When they were at the gas station and John was eating a bag of chips he asked her what model she was. She didn't say anything. Then he asked if she was different and she said something to the effect that "she was a different model, alright" and then she ate a chip out of the bag.

Later on when she was stitching up Mom, you could tell that she was trying to "understand" the pain that Mom was going through. It's like she was trying to learn emotions.

I'm assuming that they are trying to introduce a new terminator model that has a beta version of an "Emotion" chip. Per the movies the terminator models were an ongoing evolution to make them more "human" so that they could better infiltrate human dwellings/ranks.

 

[Kadarin]

I watched about the first ten minutes or so, then had to turn it off because it was so goddamned stupid.

 

[herkulease]

Originally posted by: Imp
It wasn't complete crap, watchable, but still a mockery of T1 and T2.

The 'bad' terminator I didn't care for; he seems too much like a real person and a pretty boy. Maybe Arnold and Robert Patrick set too high a bar. Hell, even Kristanna Loken did better.

The 'good' terminator just doesn't seem believable as a terminator. Come on, you can send one machine back in time to protect you and you choose the 5'6" petite model over the 6'3 'roider one. Maybe it blends in more, but come on...

As a show in general, I didn't care for the classic cable-sitcom use of claustorphobic camera angles (long, extended close-up shots of actor's face). It definately had the Fox signature to it. Lots of the dialogue I didn't care for. I found myself flipping to other channels a lot while there was no action or 'useful' dialogue.

My guess is the girl, small frame and all was picked so that it would allow John to be more comfortable. He's a teenager after all. What better way to get a teenager to be comfortable aroudn than some teenage looking female terminator. She'd probably be nude all the time walking aroudn their shack. I'm sure John would be very happy.

 

[anxi80]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
I'm assuming that they are trying to introduce a new terminator model that has a beta version of an "Emotion" chip. Per the movies the terminator models were an ongoing evolution to make them more "human" so that they could better infiltrate human dwellings/ranks.

a terminator that can play playstation 2 games?! sa-weet!

actually, if sarah is so worried about john getting sneak-attacked by a terminator... why dont they have a dog? everytime a dog gets near a terminator it starts barking its head off... id think if they kept one around they could be better prepared for an attack.

 

[Agentbolt]

I was watching with my roomate and he made a good point: Is she programmed to follow John's orders? I'd make her do everything naked if I were him. "Kill that bad guy! But take off your top first!"

 

[Double Trouble]

I'm gonna give it another day to see what they make of it, but the acting / directing in the first one was pretty darn terrible. Perhaps ah nold is just the perfect "terminator". The liquid metal guy was pretty good too. The 'bad' guy terminator in this one is way too "human" mean, he needs to just be cold and rational like the original terminator.....

 

[BooGiMaN]

if i recall correctly this series opens up in 1999, but in the last terminator movie they mentioned his mom dieing of leukemia in 1997...

 

[Codewiz]

Originally posted by: Queasy

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
4) I thought Hollywood hired scientists so people wouldn't say WTF anymore. A chair stopped bullets? PATHETIC! Heck, just strap some Pillows to John and he'll be fine.

This is as old as when film was invented.

Guess someone wasn't paying attention. The cops said the chair had kevlar in it. Sarah Connor obviously made that modification

 

[Queasy]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
if i recall correctly this series opens up in 1999, but in the last terminator movie they mentioned his mom dieing of leukemia in 1997...

They're considering Terminator 3 to be an alternate reality and not part of the main Terminator timeline.

Or some such excuse.

 

[13Gigatons]

I wanted to like it because I love T1 and T2 but it sucked worse then T3.

My number one complaint is the fact they picked a girl to be the protector...I guess they didn't see the bionic woman ratings on nbc. The rest of the cast sucked as well.

 

[jonks]

Liked it, but John's acting like a pussy. He's 15 but Furlong from T2 could kick his ass. Whine whine whine. I don't wanna be the messiah, blah blah. Dude, if they succeeded in killing you in the past, then they wouldn't need to be sending back robots from the future to kill you would they? Have a Sunny D and chill.

 

[maxster]

I would hit it. Hard.

 

[Goosemaster]

A testament to who sh!ty producers /actors etc are without a good writer

It was awful...but interesting enough compared with reruns....frankly it feels like the time when Fox got a massive erection during the late 90s with shows like Slider's that did well and started letting EVERYTHING out of the door without double checking their quality...with disastrous results...

might catch the second ep tonight

 

[Malfeas]

Well, I enjoyed it, even if some others did not.

One thing no one else has seemed to notice, but these are not the terminators from the original future timeline, as some think. Sarah Conner DID change the future, but she just delayed the creation of skynet. This 'new' timeline skynet was created in 2011, when general technology levels are a bit more advanced than 1997. As such, all the machine/terminator models will not be exactly the same. They may be similar to the original timeline, but will have been developed under slightly different conditions, allowing for minor differences. So they may have more or fewer models, and they may have better behavioral programming allowing them to blend in human groups easier.

Remember, Reese came from the year 2029, and Cameron has already stated she came from 2027. A full two years ealier than the original skynet sent back the first terminator. The tech level in the 'new' timeline should be somewhat higher, since it had more time to develop before the nuclear hollocaust. But it is to earlier to say that, as there are few details on the 'new' future.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: Malfeas
Well, I enjoyed it, even if some others did not.

One thing no one else has seemed to notice, but these are not the terminators from the original future timeline, as some think. Sarah Conner DID change the future, but she just delayed the creation of skynet. This 'new' timeline skynet was created in 2011, when general technology levels are a bit more advanced than 1997. As such, all the machine/terminator models will not be exactly the same. They may be similar to the original timeline, but will have been developed under slightly different conditions, allowing for minor differences. So they may have more or fewer models, and they may have better behavioral programming allowing them to blend in human groups easier.

Remember, Reese came from the year 2029, and Cameron has already stated she came from 2027. A full two years ealier than the original skynet sent back the first terminator. The tech level in the 'new' timeline should be somewhat higher, since it had more time to develop before the nuclear hollocaust. But it is to earlier to say that, as there are few details on the 'new' future.

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[mmx]

very bad made....
Looks like an you tube video.

Acting is F rated.
They should've made an arnold look alike to protect the boy.

 

[imported_Imp]

Ok, so Sarah is god huh... Low slide a crotch rocket and not even a scratch, gets right back up to bitch. Maybe Jack Bauer could do that, not her. Oh, and so everyone and their mother is being sent back in time eh...

 

[BornStar]

Did anyone else notice the address of the computer store is 1337?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BornStar
Did anyone else notice the address of the computer store is 1337?

i signed on to post that

me = lamerz

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: maxster
I would hit it. Hard.

agreed

 

[SoulAssassin]

I didn't get what the deal was with the terminator head at the dude's house. I saw it sitting on the side of the road near the beginning but didn't see how it got there or anything. Anyone mind explaining?