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[Cerpin Taxt]

So since we are talking about human cells, you are contradicting yourself. You claim humans do not start out as humans, but also claim humans start out as humans. Which is it?

For the last time, I do not claim that humans start out as humans because it is not true, but they are always human. This discussion will continue when you review my arguments and demonstrate that you understand the distinction between being human (like people, fetuses, and HeLa cell cultures are) and being a human (like only persons are), and the way that I have used those terms correctly in my arguments. I have been perfectly consistent in my usage, and you are either unable or unwilling to comprehend that same distinction as I've used it.

In short, catch up or shut up, dumbfuck.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

For the last time, I do not claim that humans start out as humans because it is not true, but they are always human. This discussion will continue when you review my arguments and demonstrate that you understand the distinction between being human (like people, fetuses, and HeLa cell cultures are) and being a human (like only persons are), and they way that I have used those terms correctly in my arguments. I have been perfectly consistent in my usage, and you are either unable or unwilling to comprehend that same distinction as I've used it.

In short, catch up or shut up, dumbfuck.

Good answer except for the last bit but thats nothing to do with me. Anyways when do you class the fetus as a human being? How many weeks do you say

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Good answer except for the last bit but thats nothing to do with me. Anyways when do you class the fetus as a human being? How many weeks do you say

"Human being" is another way of saying "person." A person is human, born, and alive.

 

[cybrsage]

For the last time, I do not claim that humans start out as humans because it is not true...

What species do humans start out as?

 

[cybrsage]

"Human being" is another way of saying "person." A person is human, born, and alive.

Correct.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

What species do humans start out as?

If you had an IQ greater than your shoe size you'd have seen that I've already answered that question, idiot.

Before birth, human beings are human fetuses (or human embryos, or human zygotes, or human gametes).

It's time for you just to sit the fuck down, and shut the fuck up.

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

"Human being" is another way of saying "person." A person is human, born, and alive.

So its not a human being when it receives its own set of fingerprints. A thing unique to every living human on the earth?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

So its not a human being when it receives its own set of fingerprints. A thing unique to every living human on the earth?

Holy shit the moronism is contagious!

Read what I wrote. I said exactly what I meant.

I swear to god if people would actually take the time to comprehend the things I write I could cut my keystrokes in half.

 

[cybrsage]

If you had an IQ greater than your shoe size you'd have seen that I've already answered that question, idiot.

What species does a human fetus belong to? Human Fetus is not a species in and of itself.

Now answer the question and stop dancing around it.

 

[cybrsage]

So its not a human being when it receives its own set of fingerprints. A thing unique to every living human on the earth?

No, it is not a human being yet. It is certianly a human, but not a human being. To be a human being you must be born. The cord does not have to bet cut, you simply have to be outside the mother and survived.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

What species does a human fetus belong to? Human Fetus is not a species in and of itself.

Now answer the question and stop dancing around it.

What was your question?

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

No, it is not a human being yet. It is certianly a human, but not a human being.

False. A human being is a human is a human being.

 

[cybrsage]

What was your question?

You quoted it. Just for future reference, questions are the sentences that end in a question mark. This is a question mark: ?

But to make it easier, I will repost the question.

What species does a human fetus belong to?

 

[cybrsage]

False. A human being is a human is a human being.

No. Human being is a subset of human. Human is the superset with includes the subset of human being.

Not all humans are human beings but all human beings are humans. This is akin to saying not all men are brothers but all brothers are men.

 

[actuarial]

No. Human being is a subset of human. Human is the superset with includes the subset of human being.

Not all humans are human beings but all human beings are humans. This is akin to saying not all men are brothers but all brothers are men.

Not according to this dictionary:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/human

hu·man   [hyoo-muhn or, often, yoo‐]
adjective
1. of, pertaining to, characteristic of, or having the nature of people: human frailty.
2. consisting of people: the human race.
3. of or pertaining to the social aspect of people: human affairs.
4. sympathetic; humane: a warmly human understanding.
noun
5. a human being.

So yes, all humans (noun) are human beings, at least based on the first dictionary reference that Google gave me. Feel free to find a contradicting one.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Yes, but what did you want to know?

 

[cybrsage]

Yes, but what did you want to know?

What species does a human fetus belong to?

 

[cybrsage]

Not according to this dictionary:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/human



So yes, all humans (noun) are human beings, at least based on the first dictionary reference that Google gave me. Feel free to find a contradicting one.

Medical dictionaries are better when talking about such things.

Definition of HUMAN
1 a : of, relating to, or characteristic of humans <the human body><human biochemistry> b : primarily or usually harbored by, affecting, or attacking humans <human diseases><human parasites>

2: being or consisting of humans <the human race>

3: consisting of members of the family Hominidae : hominid

http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/human

EDIT: The first two are adjectives, the last is a noun. Humans in the fetal stage of development are still part of the hominidae family. Just like humans in the infant stage of develoopment, they are members of the same family, species, genus, kingdon, etc.

 

[actuarial]

Medical dictionaries are better when talking about such things.


http://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/human

EDIT: The first two are adjectives, the last is a noun. Humans in the fetal stage of development are still part of the hominidae family. Just like humans in the infant stage of develoopment, they are members of the same family, species, genus, kingdon, etc.

I enjoy your attempt to hide your error with the edit, but you still failed. The dictionary itself categorizes all of those as adjectives, and has a completely different section for the noun meaning.

Definition of HUMAN

: a bipedal primate mammal of the genus Homo (H. sapiens: man; broadly : any living or extinct member of the family.

And here's how it defines human being:

Definition of HUMAN BEING

: human

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

There is no such thing as "a human in the fetal stage of development"for exactly the same reason people are not "corpses in the undead stage of development".

Oh, and I'll gladly answer your question if you'd just tell me exactly what you want to know.

 

[Texashiker]

Islam is the religion that takes it to the next level and has whole system of laws and governance.

Islam is more of a political movement then a religion.

 

[cybrsage]

I enjoy your attempt to hide your error with the edit, but you still failed. The dictionary itself categorizes all of those as adjectives, and has a completely different section for the noun meaning.

Fine, I consider the word hominid to be a noun, but no need to fight over something like that. We will use the definition you provided.

I agree, a human fetus is a member of the genus Homo. A human fetus is also a bipedal primate mammal. A human fetus is also alive. So far, we agree with you definition that a human fetus is a human.

And here's how it defines human being:

Yes, that is true. A human being IS a human. I already said that. Human being is a subset of the superset of human.

OK, lets to to explain what I mean in a different way. Siamese twins are one human being composed of two humans. Once seperated, they are two different human beings. During pregancy, the mother is one human being composed of two humans. After birth, the child obtains the status of human being.

 

[cybrsage]

There is no such thing as "a human in the fetal stage of development"for exactly the same reason people are not "corpses in the undead stage of development".

Oh, and I'll gladly answer your question if you'd just tell me exactly what you want to know.

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It is a well known and accepted fact that fetus is a stage of human development. This explains why you are so cracked in your view, you think humans appear fully formed after birth...just pop into existence. :awe:

STAGES OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT

1. Conception
2. Zygote (first through third day).
3. Blastocyst (second day through second week)
4. Embryo (third through eighth week)
5. Fetus (9th week until birth)
6. Infant (birth until one year)
7. Child (ages 1 year to 12 years)

http://faculty.washington.edu/wtalbott/phil102/tr11-27.htm

Obviously, the stages of human development continue from there, ending with the stage known as death.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Siamese twins are two distinct persons, two human beings, and two humans.

Fucks sake you're dumb.

 

[Ausm]

Siamese twins are two distinct persons, two human beings, and two humans.

Fucks sake you're dumb.

To bad that idiot doesn't realize this fact.... 😉