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[Londo_Jowo]

Right. They're also misusing the word.

Sorry, not according to Dictionary.com

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/uppity

uppity

1. affecting an attitude of inflated self-esteem; haughty; snobbish.

2. rebelliously self-assertive; not inclined to be tractable or deferential

Or Merriam Webster

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uppity

uppity

: acting as if you are more important than you really are, do not have to do what you are told to do, etc.

putting on or marked by airs of superiority

 

[jackstar7]

Sorry, not according to Dictionary.com

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/uppity

Or Merriam Webster

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/uppity

Seems like she could buy and sell all of us, so I'm not sure how she is pretending to have more importance than she actually does.

Again: she's human garbage.

Still not sure why it's worth defending this word. Seems more like a display of pedantry.

 

[HumblePie]

Right, but going by your definitions, it is a misuse of the word. No?

She is of the elite class. She is human garbage, but not uppity by its common use.

Incorrect. Uppity has multiple dictionary definitions. FIRST is arrogant and pretentious. To which her public character in the past has fit to a T. The other is to describe a person or group of people that are pretending to be further above their class than they really are.

 

[jackstar7]

So again... continued effort to defend use of this word... to what end... I am lacking for understanding.

 

[jackstar7]

Is this a situation where you guys feel like the PC police are taking away a word?

And it's up to you to defend its use?

I mean... I can get you guys capes if that would help with the self-image here.

 

[JSt0rm]

White people trying to say what words are racists or not. Idiots.

 

[xBiffx]

White people trying to say what words are racists or not. Idiots.

Again, who is the real racist here.

 

[HumblePie]

Randal Graves: What? What is the big deal? Since when did it become a crime to say porch monkey?
Becky: Oh, I don't know, since forever?
Randal Graves: Why?
Dante Hicks: Because porch monkey's a racial slur against black people!
Randal Graves: No it's not! ****** is.
Dante Hicks: Randal!
Randal Graves: What?
Elias: [to Randal] Excuse me, but did you just call Mr. Dante a ******?
Becky: Shut up, Elias!
Randal Graves: No I did not just call Mr. Dante a ******, I simply said that ****** is a racial slur towards black people.
Dante Hicks: So is porch monkey!
Randal Graves: Oh, it is not! my excellent compatriot, spook, spade, moolie, jigaboo, nig-nog, *those* are racial slurs towards black people! Porch Monkey is not!
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Apropos!

Unless someone has decided apropos is racist now.

 

[JSt0rm]

Again, who is the real racist here.

You are. For trying to flip this thing around and blow your dog whistle the entire time. You cant hide your true self. We all see it.

 

[JSt0rm]

Apropos!

Unless someone has decided apropos is racist now.

Language is a living thing.

 

[werepossum]

Is this a situation where you guys feel like the PC police are taking away a word?

And it's up to you to defend its use?

I mean... I can get you guys capes if that would help with the self-image here.

I agree that it's a loaded word which should be used with caution and not about black people, but I'd, you know, still kinda like a cape, please.

Excelsior!

 

[JSt0rm]

I agree that it's a loaded word which should be used with caution and not about black people, but I'd, you know, still kinda like a cape, please.

Excelsior!

^^^ wow so werepossum knows and about 80% of the other posters know this is a loaded word but some of you want to argue that its ok to say certain words because nobody gets to define a word but you.

And you have already been warned about using the word from a mod!

 

[Perknose]

If anyone wishes to discuss or argue our prohibition of the use of the word "uppity" in its well known and long standing racist context, take it to Moderator Discussions.

The next person who brings it up here will be sanctioned.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[werepossum]

PAY ATTENTION BEFORE YOU POST.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[BoberFett]

lol I say "yes sir" and "no sir", and if I believe it's warranted, I would file a legal complaint afterward. I would guess the winning rate for that behavior is much higher than is the winning rate for pitching a tantrum.

Yes sir? The cop wants to wet his whistle. In you. And you say "Yes sir"?

 

[Londo_Jowo]

NVM

 

[werepossum]

Yes sir? The cop wants to wet his whistle. In you. And you say "Yes sir"?

Nope. But most people can see a bit of daylight between disrespectful and rape.

 

[BoberFett]

Nope. But most people can see a bit of daylight between disrespectful and rape.

Except cops. They can just as easily shoot you for disrespect as they can for resisting rape, and claim that you went for their gun.

So please, enlighten us. At what point should someone disobey a cops orders? And you believe the correct answer is "Never", then congratulations, you support a police state.

 

[werepossum]

Except cops. They can just as easily shoot you for disrespect as they can for resisting rape, and claim that you went for their gun.

So please, enlighten us. At what point should someone disobey a cops orders? And you believe the correct answer is "Never", then congratulations, you support a police state.

Off the top of my head there are three situations where one should disobey a cop's order.

1. When he is ordering you to do something that is illegal, immoral, or presents a danger to you, to him, or to someone else. e.g. "get out of the car" when your car is alongside a drop-off.

2. When the likely consequences of obeying the order are worse than the likely consequences of disobeying the order AND the cop is being unreasonable beyond a reasonable doubt. e.g. "Come into this abandoned building with me" when you coming into the abandoned building has no obvious purpose.

3. When you have tried in good faith to comply politely, like any good person should do, for several minutes, AND when the particular order to be disobeyed is an unreasonable order or request. e.g. "Do you mind if I search your vehicle?" "Stop filming me."

It's also very, VERY important how one disobeys a cop's order. A reasonable adult does so calmly and respectfully, giving a brief courteous explanation as to why one will not comply with that order and if one believes it necessary, followed by "I respectfully refuse to answer any more questions until I am apprised of my rights, informed of any charges against me, and have had a chance to meet with my lawyer and go over these charges."

Examples of reasonable orders or requests:
Would you please put out your cigarette? (Something that a nice person will do for anyone in close proximity.)

Would you please step out of the car? (Perfectly normal if not always necessary part of a traffic stop.)

Any problem with that?

 

[Moonbeam]

You claiming that I am unable to "properly evaluate this issue" is based solely on my not coming to the same conclusion as did you. What is that but arrogance? As far as claiming that I "could easily be broken", I have been in this situation twice. Once I was a teenager, and I concluded that not only would losing my temper result in me getting arrested instead of ticketed, my being in the wrong was important enough to make me take an ass-chewing. I can do this because my self-esteem is not rooted in random strangers, even if they wear badges. The second time I had done nothing wrong and was told flat out that if I did not let the cop talk to the doctor alone, he would arrest me for disorderly conduct. The situation was that I had met an ambulance at the hospital with a female relative who had a broken collar bone, severely bruised face, and various cuts and abrasions. She was groggy and disoriented and had told the doctor that called me that she said she had been raped by a cop; therefore I did not think it was right that the investigating officer could interview the doctor without me being there. I did not however see any way she would be better off if I went to jail, so I backed off and went about things a different way. I checked her out of that hospital and took her to a different hospital. Neither time did I lose my temper, although obviously in the second situation things got pretty heated and I said some things to both the cop and the doctor for which I eventually had to apologize. (Which no doubt led to the threat of arrest even though I was dead calm when I said them. Still, they were reasonable given the facts as I knew them at the time.) I have never in my life been as angry with anyone as I was with that cop leading the doctor away to speak to him privately; I saw him as being the one trying to cover up a rape by a cop. I did not stop being a thinking, rational being.

If you would deflate that enormous ego for a moment, you might realize that virtually everybody has opportunities to react as did this young woman. You aren't special. You aren't enlightened. You aren't superior. You are just one more human being among seven billion, and the fact that you have opinions does not make them more than opinions.

I told you, you make me profoundly sad. It has nothing at all to do with my ego. It's painful for me to see a person like you who can't see what is plain to see when it's right in front of your nose. It wasn't the woman who reacted like an idiot; it was the cop. If you weren't such a judgmental, blame the victim, asshole, you would see that the reactions you call rational aren't possible for huge numbers of people. Please reassess who has the giant ego. You could be easily broken.

 

[werepossum]

I told you, you make me profoundly sad. It has nothing at all to do with my ego. It's painful for me to see a person like you who can't see what is plain to see when it's right in front of your nose. It wasn't the woman who reacted like an idiot; it was the cop. If you weren't such a judgmental, blame the victim, asshole, you would see that the reactions you call rational aren't possible for huge numbers of people. Please reassess who has the giant ego. You could be easily broken.

See, this is the proggie mentality. It's always black and white, someone is completely correct and someone is completely wrong. Real life is virtually never black and white, it's shades of gray. It's ONLY shades of gray, the occasional Chattanooga or Charleston shooting aside. Both acted stupidly. As a result, one killed herself and one painted a giant target on his back.

And if we can't be rational, then no basis for any kind of society is possible, for we cannot all make allowances for each other. We're all just broken toys who would be better off just shooting whomever annoys us since we're just unable to interact rationally.

 

[Perknose]

See, this is the proggie mentality. It's always black and white, someone is completely correct and someone is completely wrong.

The lol irony in your statement somehow seems to elude you.

 

[werepossum]

The lol irony in your statement somehow seems to elude you.

So saying that something isn't black and white is also black and white? The mind, she is boggled.

 

[Perknose]

See, this is the proggie mentality. It's always black and white, someone is completely correct and someone is completely wrong.

So saying that something isn't black and white is also black and white? The mind, she is boggled.

Wow.

You really don't see your stupidly crude and simplistically bigoted "this is the proggie mentality," ideologically BLACK AND WHITE view of the world you just parroted in your statement above, do you?

No wonder your mind is so easily boggled.

How's the view from your own personal petard you just hoisted yourself on?

 

[werepossum]

Wow.

You really don't see your stupidly crude and simplistically bigoted "this is the proggie mentality," ideologically BLACK AND WHITE view of the world you just parroted in your statement above, do you?

No wonder your mind is so easily boggled.

How's the view from your own personal petard you just hoisted yourself on?

Fair enough. How about:

See, this is a good example of a mentality commonly expressed by progressives, insisting that the situation is black and white, someone is completely correct and someone is completely wrong.*

*It does not however apply to every progressive on every issue. It certainly may seem to apply to every progressive on every issue. But it doesn't. Nor is it exclusive to progressives.​

Better?

Now explain why I feel like I've encountered the progressive version of the right's "How dare you not tolerate my intolerance!"