SAMSUNG SM950 PRO NVMe SSD

[fvbounty]

Hi Guys.

I would be VERY grateful is someone could help me with my situation.

My system:

Windows 10 64 Bit
MSI Gaming M9 ACK
Intel 6700K
Samsung 950 PRO M.2 512 MB (X 2 in RAID O)
GTX 980Ti
Corsair 600q
Micron 2666Mhz RAM 32 GB

As listed above I have two Samsung 950 PROs running in RAID 0 on Windows 10. Everything is up and running fine other than the following two issues:

1. When I try to install the official Samsung NVE driver I get the following error "Samsung NVE Express Device is not connected. Connect the device and try again."
2. The second issue is I can not get the Samsung Magician software (latest version) to work. The software lists my drive as "Samsung Pro RAID" however all of the options are greyed out. I can't over provision the drive, use Secure Erase, or RAPID mode.

Apparently the latest Magician software doe work the 950 PRO so I can only assume the software does not work in RAID mode? I'm no techie so I'm lost as to what to try or do.

I would be grateful to anyone that could help me get this working! I need to get this up and working for my business so I'm somewhat desperate to get this working.

Thanks in advance!

-Brian

This might help you out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhB7K13SXZ0

 

[baydude]

Would overheating and throttling be an issue if I put the Samsung 950 Pro m.2 in an Intel NUC?

 

[csalzman]

Sorry Larry for inconvenience I`ve changed material to brass, so heatsink is more visible.

Your idea about CF sounds very interesting, but since I have no experience with that material I have no idea how I could make heatsink I showed on renders below.

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Have these ever been made?

 

[wpcoe]

I've got an ASRock ITX motherboard on order which has the M.2 on the underside. How do you all think the thermals will be on that?

Earlier in this thread it was stated that the memory chips themselves don't get hot, it's just the controller. Any thoughts on how to keep the controller chip cool on the bottom side of a motherboard?

 

[shabby]

I've got an ASRock ITX motherboard on order which has the M.2 on the underside. How do you all think the thermals will be on that?

Earlier in this thread it was stated that the memory chips themselves don't get hot, it's just the controller. Any thoughts on how to keep the controller chip cool on the bottom side of a motherboard?

m2>thermal pad>block of aluminum>thermal pad>motherboard tray
This perfect sandwich should keep the ssd cool.

 

[Redstorm]

I've got an ASRock ITX motherboard on order which has the M.2 on the underside. How do you all think the thermals will be on that?

Earlier in this thread it was stated that the memory chips themselves don't get hot, it's just the controller. Any thoughts on how to keep the controller chip cool on the bottom side of a motherboard?

Unless you run synthetics all day you will be fine. I have both the 512 and 256 in a laptop with no extra cooling and both are fine. never get above 55C

 

[wpcoe]

m2>thermal pad>block of aluminum>thermal pad>motherboard tray
This perfect sandwich should keep the ssd cool.

Sounds intriguing. Need to find thermal pads, I guess, if I notice any heat issues.

Unless you run synthetics all day you will be fine. I have both the 512 and 256 in a laptop with no extra cooling and both are fine. never get above 55C

Thanks. That's encouraging.

 

[YBS1]

For anyone sitting on the fence, these things are indeed blisteringly fast. I picked up one to go along with a 6700K for my HTPC. The combination of the NVMe 950 Pro, the single thread performance of the 6700K, ASRock's atypical booting speeds, and maybe being helped along by a fresh Windows install, it's snappy.....I'm liking this setup much better than my 5960X for everything but gaming.

 

[csalzman]

i like the design - and brass would definitely be a better material choice. If you wanted a product to sell on the web, that one would sell on looks alone. If you built it in aluminum as well, and did some tests and showed those results, offering both versions (obviously the aluminum one would be cheaper), the brass version would sell even better.

I question the size, ie being full length of the ssd unless your goal is to form ice from the condensation.

Just for some idea, i wrote or rendered a 41 gb video file to the 950 this afternoon - highest temp i saw after 29 minutes of rendering / writing was 57C. Granted it took that much time because of the conversion process, so the 950 wasn't being written to as fast as it could have been. With all the reviewers identifying 72C as the thermal limit temp, a 15 degree margin is fairly comfortable to me. And even at 72C, it just means the thermal limiter kicks in, no SSD meltdown or anything catastrophic.

As to the CF, it can be bought pre-laid up or preformed, in rods, bar stock or sheets of various thickness - it is NOT cheap. But to give you a real life example of the heat transfer difference, we fabricate or manufacture firearm silencers (legally, we hold a federal firearms mfgring license). On one pistol model, that we offered in aluminum, i thought i'd try CF and actually put it off for a couple of years - something in the back of my head said the epoxy resin used to wet out the CF when it's being formed, would act to impede heat transfer. When we finally got around to it, the results were pretty amazing. Keep in mind all we fabricated in CF was the tube body, the internal components were aluminum, both baffles and spacer rings.

when we took the prototype out to the range, we had two identical 45 cal pistols, one pistol with an aluminum silencer and the other with CF silencer, with two shooters and two guys loading magazines. The shooters were to put 500 rounds thru each can (silencer) and shooting started at 1:00 PM - at 2:15 PM, with continuous shooting, ambient temperature was 94F. I had the shooters run the last magazine on each thru at rapid fire pace.

For background, the flash signature at the muzzle measured at 1640F, so that's a lot of btu, from repeated shots, being pumped into those cans. After the last shot, the aluminum can measured at 174F, the CF can at 115F. Remember that's even though the internal components were aluminum on both cans - but being in contact with those components, the CF still takes the heat out of the alum and into the atmosphere. But still the difference is right at 60F or 1/3 cooler.

Within 45 seconds or so from the last shot, the CF can was at ambient temp and we could safely put it away in its nylon holster. The alum can, we had to wait 12-13 minutes for it to cool down enough that i felt safe in putting it away (i didn't want the holsters melting from heat build up).

If brass weren't so heavy, we'd use it for pistol cans, but there's an issue with excessive weight and pistol cycling that makes brass prohibitive.

Is anything like this being sold? Have you made any of these?

 

[csalzman]

i like the design - and brass would definitely be a better material choice. If you wanted a product to sell on the web, that one would sell on looks alone. If you built it in aluminum as well, and did some tests and showed those results, offering both versions (obviously the aluminum one would be cheaper), the brass version would sell even better.

I question the size, ie being full length of the ssd unless your goal is to form ice from the condensation.

Do you know if anything like this is available?

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