Safe houses for suspects in Bundy ranch standoff

PlanetJosh

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I'm trying to find out if anyone supporting the Bundy ranch in the standoff in Nevada plan to resist arrest. That would be if the authorities decide to prosecute them for pointing weapons at U.S. agents.

I'm all in favor of any safe house at the ranch or anywhere else in the U.S. to protect any of them from arrest by the feds or local police for the accusations of pointing weapons or a similar charge. I realize some of you can say the feds can swoop in somewhere in another state outside Nevada where some of Bundy's supporters may have returned home. Because it would be easier to make an arrest away from the still highly armed Bundy ranch.

I can't really find in net searches if any safe houses are going to be set up outside Nevada. Or in Nevada for that matter but outside the Bundy ranch. So just wondering if any of you law enforcement types have heard anything from your sources if any of these kinds of safe houses will be arranged in other states. The Bundy ranch according to some web research is fairly well staffed and equipped to hold off authorities short of another Waco style takeover.

You could have this post put in the Bundy ranch thread if you want but I think the impending prosecutions may deserve their own thread.
 

UberNeuman

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I'm trying to find out if anyone supporting the Bundy ranch in the standoff in Nevada plan to resist arrest. That would be if the authorities decide to prosecute them for pointing weapons at U.S. agents.

I'm all in favor of any safe house at the ranch or anywhere else in the U.S. to protect any of them from arrest by the feds or local police for the accusations of pointing weapons or a similar charge. I realize some of you can say the feds can swoop in somewhere in another state outside Nevada where some of Bundy's supporters may have returned home. Because it would be easier to make an arrest away from the still highly armed Bundy ranch.

I can't really find in net searches if any safe houses are going to be set up outside Nevada. Or in Nevada for that matter but outside the Bundy ranch. So just wondering if any of you law enforcement types have heard anything from your sources if any of these kinds of safe houses will be arranged in other states. The Bundy ranch according to some web research is fairly well staffed and equipped to hold off authorities short of another Waco style takeover.

You could have this post put in the Bundy ranch thread if you want but I think the impending prosecutions may deserve their own thread.

Okay.
 

Zorba

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I heard this guy is setting up a safe house:

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MongGrel

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I'm hoping they all get hunted down and arrested myself.

*shrug*

Somehow half of what you said didn't make sense to me in English.

So if you where one of em and can not speak a bit more concisely than that, GL.
 
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UberNeuman

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Let me make this clear - lay down your weapons and be arrested and allow your representatives/Attorneys to make your case for you.
 

Jhhnn

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Let me make this clear - lay down your weapons and be arrested and allow your representatives/Attorneys to make your case for you.

Good advice. OTOH, there's always the blaze of glory route. I think we'll mostly see the "crying like a little girl & begging for a plea" option.

The federal penalty for harboring a fugitive with a felony warrant is 5 years, btw.

http://www.criminal-lawyer-colorado...rboring-a-fugitive-a-minor-and-accessory.html

Bring it on, Tards.
 

Pr0d1gy

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I'm hoping they all get hunted down and arrested myself.

That would be huge mistake, honestly. The government showed great restraint in this scenario and following it up with litigation against the BR militia would only serve to undo all the good their restraint did.

In one fell swoop they basically put to rest all of the idiotic FEMA camp type conspiracy theories, along with the notion that the government is actively planning to go full Nazi on the American public. This would be a colossal fit of short-sightedness if they went after these people.
 

zanejohnson

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I'm hoping they all get hunted down and arrested myself.

*shrug*

Somehow half of what you said didn't make sense to me in English.

So if you where one of em and can not speak a bit more concisely than that, GL.

pardon me if i'm mistaken, but your jewish right?


but you dont have a problem with the government attempting to take this family land?
and your not in favor of hiding the people who tried to help these people? hiding these people so they aren't thrown into a prison "camp?"


a camp in the country who has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world?
 

zanejohnson

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That would be huge mistake, honestly. The government showed great restraint in this scenario and following it up with litigation against the BR militia would only serve to undo all the good their restraint did.

In one fell swoop they basically put to rest all of the idiotic FEMA camp type conspiracy theories, along with the notion that the government is actively planning to go full Nazi on the American public. This would be a colossal fit of short-sightedness if they went after these people.


let me straighten this out for you. the US imprisons more people than all nations combined.

A 2014 report published by the National Research Council asserts that the prison population of the United States "is by far the largest in the world. Just under one-quarter of the world's prisoners are held in American prisons."[9]
In addition, there were 70,792 juveniles in juvenile detention in 2010.[10]
Although debtor's prisons no longer exist in the United States, residents of some U.S. states can still be incarcerated for debt as of 2014


On January 1, 2008 more than 1 in 100 adults in the United States were in prison or jail.[16][17]
In 2008 approximately one in every 31 adults (7.3 million) in the United States was behind bars, or being monitored (probation and parole). In 2008 the breakdown for adults under correctional control was as follows: one out of 18 men, one in 89 women, one in 11 African-Americans (9.2 percent), one in 27 Latinos (3.7 percent), and one in 45 Caucasians (2.2 percent).
 

zanejohnson

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Compared to Industrialized Western nations We jail not a marginally larger percentage, not even a huge percentage difference like 50% or 80%, but we incarcerate 700% more of our population than do the other Western Industrialized nations. Dare we still call ourselves Industrialized?

Only North Korea exceeds the US incarceration rate. But it only exceeds our rate when their 200,000 political prisoners are added to their general prison population figures. Exclude political prisoners and we incarcerate more than even North Korean Dictatorship. According to NBC News agency N. Korea detains nearly one percent of their population for political reasons.

The fact that the only nation which exceeds our incarceration rate does so only when counting political prisoners is a fact that has a chilling effect on me.

Especially when one notes that the margin by which N. Korea beats are incarceration rate is by about 30% higher than we but we beat the industrialized worlds incarceration rate by 700%.
 
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pardon me if i'm mistaken, but your jewish right?


but you dont have a problem with the government attempting to take this family land?
and your not in favor of hiding the people who tried to help these people? hiding these people so they aren't thrown into a prison "camp?"


a camp in the country who has the highest incarceration rate in the entire world?

The govt. wasn't taking any of his land. He was the one illegally using national land. In other words, he was freeloading off of you and the rest of the citizens of the United States.
 

Stewox

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I'm trying to find out if anyone supporting the Bundy ranch in the standoff in Nevada plan to resist arrest. That would be if the authorities decide to prosecute them for pointing weapons at U.S. agents.

You're talking about treasonous private contractors dressed in official looking outfits ?
 

fskimospy

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For a fun time go read one of the many updates from the Bundy ranch. They are impressively insane. Apparently all the nutters like Stewox are so paranoid that they have started accusing each other of being government plants, etc.
 
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For a fun time go read one of the many updates from the Bundy ranch. They are impressively insane. Apparently all the nutters like Stewox are so paranoid that they have started accusing each other of being government plants, etc.

Yup. It's clear the only motivations these people had from the beginning is to fight. Anyone. As everyone is their enemy. First it was the government. Now that they have gone away that leaves them no one to fight but each other.

Let the gun play begin!
 

Texashiker

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The govt. wasn't taking any of his land. He was the one illegally using national land. In other words, he was freeloading off of you and the rest of the citizens of the United States.

When Bush jr let the timber companies clear cut vast tracks of virgin timber on public lands, who was freeloading then?

It is ok when a comapny freeloads off the public, right? But when a citizen does it, it is a crime?


Yup. It's clear the only motivations these people had from the beginning is to fight. Anyone. As everyone is their enemy. First it was the government. Now that they have gone away that leaves them no one to fight but each other.

Let the gun play begin!

Remember Waco?

The people are sick and tired of the government strong arming citizens.


As for the opening post, that is what jury nullification is for. If any of those people are brought to trial, just find them not guilty. Problem solved.
 
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Remember Waco?

The people are sick and tired of the government strong arming citizens.

And? Are you trying to make some kind of point? The government left months ago. Almost immediately after the government left these guys started in on each other.
 

Texashiker

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This thread delivers the nutters.

You know what is "nutters", that the people tolerate government harassment.

Waco, Ruby Ridge, IRS, domestic spying,,,, people are sick and tired of it. The problem is, most people will not do anything about it.

When a group of people take action, they are labeled domestic terrorist.

What should we do to protect people who stand up to the government, nullify the jury and find them not guilty.
 

dank69

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You know what is "nutters", that the people tolerate government harassment.

Waco, Ruby Ridge, IRS, domestic spying,,,, people are sick and tired of it. The problem is, most people will not do anything about it.

When a group of people take action, they are labeled domestic terrorist.

What should we do to protect people who stand up to the government, nullify the jury and find them not guilty.
So you think people should take action for the sake of taking action, regardless of whether or not it is justified action?
 

mirageracerx

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the burden of proof a tyrannical government should be on the government not on any group of citizens. the idea we should trust the government should be at the present, and not a blind faith over years waiting for redemption.

The whole situation with bundy just gets kind of ridiculous. I personally believe Bundy should not have dealt with what he had to deal with in that manner.
 

IronWing

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You know what is "nutters", that the people tolerate government harassment.

Waco, Ruby Ridge, IRS, domestic spying,,,, people are sick and tired of it. The problem is, most people will not do anything about it.

When a group of people take action, they are labeled domestic terrorist.

What should we do to protect people who stand up to the government, nullify the jury and find them not guilty.
I guess mob rule is okay when it's your mob. Next time, the mob might be coming for you.