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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Regs
Parasite Eve 1&2 had no voice overs either and it was an awesome puzzle/thriller game.

I wonder how my 7800GT will perform. Finally a game worth upgrading my video card.

don't bother :p

the gfx are like HL2 according to the GS review

--with a *great* flashlight
:D

It's sad to see that the graphics look to be as good as HL2 when you take account the HL2 engine is about 3-4 years old.

I think the time is now that we throw away comments such as "I hope they delay it so the Ai or gameplay is good" out the window. 7 years for a functional game is shameful no matter how you look at it.

I'm hoping Crysis and Unreal 2008 do not follow the same path.

No way; they are far better than HL2's graphics from what I've seen. HL2 had that kind of lighting? Show me on which level and where, haha. I personally can't wait for this game and I am buying it the day it comes out. Crysis is coming out in Fall now and Crytek has said to expect that not to change. Dunno about Unreal...
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: cw42
I played it for about 15min, and one thing that's really annoying is the script and talking with characters. Oblivion was amazing because all of the characters spoke verbally. Most in STALKER seem to be written, and there is an BUTTLOAD of dialogue. It gets really annoying having to spend 2mins just to read through it all, so I plan on just skipping most of it.

I agree about spoken dialog, but I disagee about Oblivion. While the dialog was pretty decent, the fact every character in the game sounded like one of 4 people sucked. Oblivion came from a big ass publisher and obviously had a big budget. Why the hell couldn't they have hired more voice actors? The game has tons of characters so I wouldn't expect each to have it's own actor. But the fact I would talk to 10 dudes in 4 different towns and it was obviously the same actor really took away from the game for me.

The sheer amount of spoken lines in that game was insane though. Would have been cool if they just gave some of the programmers a break and had them record some of the voices just for some variety. I think the real reason there aren't more voice actors is simple: The voice budget was all blown on having Patrick Stewart and Shawn Bean do the voices.

You know whats funny though is there's a couple voice, male orc and male khajit that I'm pretty sure are played by the same guy. I heard a line once in the game and the guy started screwing up and doing the khajit voice in the middle of it. Was kind of funny and I'm surprised they didn't redo it.

Btw, Linda carter sucks as a voice actress. She sounds like she's reading lines from a book.
 

PingSpike

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Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Regs
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Regs
Parasite Eve 1&2 had no voice overs either and it was an awesome puzzle/thriller game.

I wonder how my 7800GT will perform. Finally a game worth upgrading my video card.

don't bother :p

the gfx are like HL2 according to the GS review

--with a *great* flashlight
:D

It's sad to see that the graphics look to be as good as HL2 when you take account the HL2 engine is about 3-4 years old.

I think the time is now that we throw away comments such as "I hope they delay it so the Ai or gameplay is good" out the window. 7 years for a functional game is shameful no matter how you look at it.

I'm hoping Crysis and Unreal 2008 do not follow the same path.

You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but if this game was released 2-3 years ago with the AI system totally cut I wouldn't have wanted it. I think the graphics look fine myself, but the AI and world were always the main draws to this game to me.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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everything i've seen and read so far makes me really want this game. HL2 grpahics are still pretty damn good, even though the gameplay was mediocre at best.

the graphics for STALKER look nice enough to me.
 

apoppin

Lifer
Mar 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: pontifex
everything i've seen and read so far makes me really want this game. HL2 grpahics are still pretty damn good, even though the gameplay was mediocre at best.

the graphics for STALKER look nice enough to me.

well ... i AM gonna buy it ... $35 is cheap enough for a Day One release
-my *worry* are the bugs reported in the GS review :p

HL2 isn't *ugly* by any means ... but i wouldn't upgrade my rig for it ... that's all
STALKER is "modern gfx" ... but not the 'latest' like Crysis - since it has been in development for so many years

i can still play HL1 ... without cringing ... much
:D

 

pontifex

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Dec 5, 2000
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i'm definitely buying it also, i jsut need to figure out when the local walmart has it because otherwise i won't be able to get it until the weekend.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: apoppin
is WalMart also having it for $35?

if not PM to target ;)

on sale for 3 days only ... Thurs-Sat

then bargain bin the next month
:Q

i *hope* not :p

no, $39.99

does wal-mart PM?

i'm planning on checking wal-mart tomorrow
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: pontifex
everything i've seen and read so far makes me really want this game. HL2 grpahics are still pretty damn good, even though the gameplay was mediocre at best.

the graphics for STALKER look nice enough to me.

well ... i AM gonna buy it ... $35 is cheap enough for a Day One release
-my *worry* are the bugs reported in the GS review :p

HL2 isn't *ugly* by any means ... but i wouldn't upgrade my rig for it ... that's all
STALKER is "modern gfx" ... but not the 'latest' like Crysis - since it has been in development for so many years

i can still play HL1 ... without cringing ... much
:D

The major issues are with Vista come no suprise. HL2 graphics with some neat particle effects are good enough for me as well. I can't wait to open this game up and find out what the weapons and gore are like which seem to be 'the rave' in the reviews. As I stressed in the past, first person shooters are all about the gore and the weapon mechanics. Without it you just have a once-around FPS.
 

marmasatt

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Jan 30, 2003
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Mark, you're actually buying a game that costs more than $ 10 bucks? :p I figure this one ought to be worth the day one release as well. I'm not waiting for the bargain bin or FS/FT either. Stopped by EB Games today while I was in the mall and they indicated they *may* be getting it later today/tommorrow as today is their release day listed. Weird. I'm also a little scared that the game is *only* getting an 85 or 8.5 on most sites. That's decent but not great. I mean Prey got 90/92ish, on average, didn't it? That was a decent game - but not great. You kind of want to be blown away when you're looking forward to a game like this one. Hopefully just not alot of hype.
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
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The storyline is supposedly incomprehensible? That's one of the critical elements for me... I don't want to feel like I'm just some random guy shooting stuff with no end in sight or rhyme or reason. I want my games to be more like system shock, less like serious sam.
 

marmasatt

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Jan 30, 2003
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I don't want to feel like I'm just some random guy shooting stuff with no end in sight or rhyme or reason. I want my games to be more like system shock, less like serious sam.

You'll be fine then. It's got some serioius RPG elements (I thought they removed a bunch, but most are still in the game I guess) with needing food, watching AI, getting tired, conserving ammo, dealing with radiation, etc (just like Oblivion/DE/SS). And it sounds like there is a very good sneaking aspect as many of us enjoy the "First Person Sneaker" as much the shooter, ie: Thief 1-3, Chronicles of Riddick, Deus Ex 1/2....Lastly, the barren atmosphere and sound element of the game is supposed to be top notch.

As long as it adds a few new elements to the FPS and has a decent graphics/environment, then I won't be dissapointed. Because I like straight up shooters too. But this just isn't one of them. The last review I linked said you're not going to be spending as much time shooting as you think.

From Gamespot:
This first-person survival game is at times amazing and engrossing and on par with such classics as Deus Ex and System Shock.
 

Jules

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I Just got the game yesterday from a friend who works at BB and i dont really like it to much. The first mission is hard, i keep getting owned.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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So far I'm unimpressed. The game runs like total dogsh*t.

Running a 2.8ghz c2d and a 7600gt at 1280x1024 w/ no AA shouldnt net 20fps with the way it looks. Oblivion looks twice as good and runs twice as fast on the same hardware, and changing the graphics settings do very little for performance.

It seems like they have the right idea, but the execution is way off. I do these silly little side missions that get me artifacts, and equipping them jacks up the radiation so I'm dead within 30 seconds. Doesnt make any sense. Ammo is limited, but the guns are woefully inaccurate, so it's becoming a situation of quicksaving, and reloading if I don't get enough hits to down them, otherwise I have to run a mile back across town to pick up more ammo. I'd probably be better off getting much closer to the enemies, but with the shoddy framerate any sort of evasive moves become near impossible, not to mention the slightest bit of movement raises the already terrible accuracy to impossible levels.

The PDA system is also far too complicated for it's own good.

And as of right now, the story is *entirely* incomprehensible. Any comparison to masterpieces such as system shock 2 or deus ex is absurd.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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All the reviews I've read say the story is kind of tacted on and weak. So if thats your bread and butter, you might be disappointed.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: BD2003
So far I'm unimpressed. The game runs like total dogsh*t.

Running a 2.8ghz c2d and a 7600gt at 1280x1024 w/ no AA shouldnt net 20fps with the way it looks. Oblivion looks twice as good and runs twice as fast on the same hardware, and changing the graphics settings do very little for performance.

It seems like they have the right idea, but the execution is way off. I do these silly little side missions that get me artifacts, and equipping them jacks up the radiation so I'm dead within 30 seconds. Doesnt make any sense. Ammo is limited, but the guns are woefully inaccurate, so it's becoming a situation of quicksaving, and reloading if I don't get enough hits to down them, otherwise I have to run a mile back across town to pick up more ammo. I'd probably be better off getting much closer to the enemies, but with the shoddy framerate any sort of evasive moves become near impossible, not to mention the slightest bit of movement raises the already terrible accuracy to impossible levels.

The PDA system is also far too complicated for it's own good.

And as of right now, the story is *entirely* incomprehensible. Any comparison to masterpieces such as system shock 2 or deus ex is absurd.

man, whats up with all the conflicting reviews of this game?
this review here scares me.

the other reviews by the game sites and stuff seemed pretty good.
 

pontifex

Lifer
Dec 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
I Just got the game yesterday from a friend who works at BB and i dont really like it to much. The first mission is hard, i keep getting owned.

you don't like it because its too hard or other reasons?
 

Jules

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: MyStupidMouth
I Just got the game yesterday from a friend who works at BB and i dont really like it to much. The first mission is hard, i keep getting owned.

you don't like it because its too hard or other reasons?

Its not even that. i could care less if i get owned as long as i have fun. The graphics IMO look worse then HL2. Game play is fun but the shooting is really lame.. Maybe i have to play it more but im not liking it that much.
 

BD2003

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: pontifex
Originally posted by: BD2003
So far I'm unimpressed. The game runs like total dogsh*t.

Running a 2.8ghz c2d and a 7600gt at 1280x1024 w/ no AA shouldnt net 20fps with the way it looks. Oblivion looks twice as good and runs twice as fast on the same hardware, and changing the graphics settings do very little for performance.

It seems like they have the right idea, but the execution is way off. I do these silly little side missions that get me artifacts, and equipping them jacks up the radiation so I'm dead within 30 seconds. Doesnt make any sense. Ammo is limited, but the guns are woefully inaccurate, so it's becoming a situation of quicksaving, and reloading if I don't get enough hits to down them, otherwise I have to run a mile back across town to pick up more ammo. I'd probably be better off getting much closer to the enemies, but with the shoddy framerate any sort of evasive moves become near impossible, not to mention the slightest bit of movement raises the already terrible accuracy to impossible levels.

The PDA system is also far too complicated for it's own good.

And as of right now, the story is *entirely* incomprehensible. Any comparison to masterpieces such as system shock 2 or deus ex is absurd.

man, whats up with all the conflicting reviews of this game?
this review here scares me.

the other reviews by the game sites and stuff seemed pretty good.

Game sites are different in several key ways.

Firstly, their systems are almost always high-end. They rarely have performance problems. I could imagine supreme commander is quite impressive on a dual monitor SLI system, but its nearly unplayable on typical hardware IMO.

They are also judging it based on far more categories than the average gamer does...we just want to know if it's fun or not.

Something like a terrible interface or terrible performance could turn an otherwise good game into a pointless waste of time for a gamer, but no review site with a conscience would drop a game from an 8 to a 5 because of a quirky interface.

Maybe its just my particular point of view. IMO, there are far too many brilliant games released across PC and 3 consoles nowadays to waste my time on anything but the finest. I don't judge games on a 10 point scale, it's the four point scale. 1)Immediately uninstall because its a waste of disk space 2) interesting but I'll likely not finish it, 3) play it through once, 4) or on my hard drive for eternity. Right now, stalker is hovering in the "interesting but I'll likely not finish it" category.

I've not quite given up on it yet, but at this point, I kinda want my money back. It feels unfinished, and is completely lacking polish. :(
 

torpid

Lifer
Sep 14, 2003
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You forgot the 5th category... couldn't even motivate myself to install it. With a 5a) didn't open the package and 5b) opened the package but didn't install. That's happened to me a couple of times. 5a is cool because if I'm motivated I can return it.
 

Sniper82

Lifer
Feb 6, 2000
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Originally posted by: BD2003
So far I'm unimpressed. The game runs like total dogsh*t.

Running a 2.8ghz c2d and a 7600gt at 1280x1024 w/ no AA shouldnt net 20fps with the way it looks. Oblivion looks twice as good and runs twice as fast on the same hardware, and changing the graphics settings do very little for performance.

It seems like they have the right idea, but the execution is way off. I do these silly little side missions that get me artifacts, and equipping them jacks up the radiation so I'm dead within 30 seconds. Doesnt make any sense. Ammo is limited, but the guns are woefully inaccurate, so it's becoming a situation of quicksaving, and reloading if I don't get enough hits to down them, otherwise I have to run a mile back across town to pick up more ammo. I'd probably be better off getting much closer to the enemies, but with the shoddy framerate any sort of evasive moves become near impossible, not to mention the slightest bit of movement raises the already terrible accuracy to impossible levels.

The PDA system is also far too complicated for it's own good.

And as of right now, the story is *entirely* incomprehensible. Any comparison to masterpieces such as system shock 2 or deus ex is absurd.

According to a review I seen a 256mb 6800 series card outperforms a 7600GT in this game. Not sure why. My only guess would be the 128bit memory.
 

PingSpike

Lifer
Feb 25, 2004
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Originally posted by: Sniper82
Originally posted by: BD2003
So far I'm unimpressed. The game runs like total dogsh*t.

Running a 2.8ghz c2d and a 7600gt at 1280x1024 w/ no AA shouldnt net 20fps with the way it looks. Oblivion looks twice as good and runs twice as fast on the same hardware, and changing the graphics settings do very little for performance.

It seems like they have the right idea, but the execution is way off. I do these silly little side missions that get me artifacts, and equipping them jacks up the radiation so I'm dead within 30 seconds. Doesnt make any sense. Ammo is limited, but the guns are woefully inaccurate, so it's becoming a situation of quicksaving, and reloading if I don't get enough hits to down them, otherwise I have to run a mile back across town to pick up more ammo. I'd probably be better off getting much closer to the enemies, but with the shoddy framerate any sort of evasive moves become near impossible, not to mention the slightest bit of movement raises the already terrible accuracy to impossible levels.

The PDA system is also far too complicated for it's own good.

And as of right now, the story is *entirely* incomprehensible. Any comparison to masterpieces such as system shock 2 or deus ex is absurd.

According to a review I seen a 256mb 6800 series card outperforms a 7600GT in this game. Not sure why. My only guess would be the 128bit memory.

Yeah, that bittech review I think had a pretty good performance comparison across different hardware levels.
 

xSkyDrAx

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Sep 14, 2003
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Has anyone been able to pick up a pre-order today at their local gamestops/ebgames?