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Markfw

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Lets put it this way. I have 7 Ryzen systems, 4 threadrippers, an 1800x and 2 2700x, and they all run at 3466 memory speed. And that is less than the speed the memory is rated for. They run 24/7/365@100% load.
 
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Thanks, for the clarification, then, going up to 3200 or 3400 does not represent a danger for the IMC nor to reduce the life of the CPU or RAM?
Frequency won't kill your DRAM or IMC. Only if you increase voltage too much. DDR4 spec says it can take up to 1.5V, and the IMC (SoC voltage) is safe up to 1.2V.
 
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I'm trying to run a fanless Ryzen 3 1200 mITX box and the temperatures are a bit too high for my taste, what would be the minimum SOC voltage to run with 2666MHz memory? Running default values, HwiNFO reports SoC Voltage (SVI2 TFN) = 0.938V, SoC Power is never below 9W
 

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I'm trying to run a fanless Ryzen 3 1200 mITX box and the temperatures are a bit too high for my taste, what would be the minimum SOC voltage to run with 2666MHz memory? Running default values, HwiNFO reports SoC Voltage (SVI2 TFN) = 0.938V, SoC Power is never below 9W
Depends, usually 0.825 - 0.850V.
No major power savings to be had from there thou.
 

bitxan

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I have a 2700x with an nvidia 1080 ti, he performed many tests with b-die memories at 2933 and 3200 cl14 and the difference is very small and in some cases negligible, for a normal user on a day to day basis the difference of 2933 to 3200?
 

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I have a 2700x with an nvidia 1080 ti, he performed many tests with b-die memories at 2933 and 3200 cl14 and the difference is very small and in some cases negligible, for a normal user on a day to day basis the difference of 2933 to 3200?
depends on the games and the subtimings.
 

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I have a 2700x with an nvidia 1080 ti, he performed many tests with b-die memories at 2933 and 3200 cl14 and the difference is very small and in some cases negligible, for a normal user on a day to day basis the difference of 2933 to 3200?
Assuming you are running the same timings for both 2933 and 3200, then the difference would be small, a few percent in a worst case scenario.

The real performance hit comes when you use relaxed timings AND lower DDR4 speeds.
 

bitxan

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Assuming you are running the same timings for both 2933 and 3200, then the difference would be small, a few percent in a worst case scenario.

The real performance hit comes when you use relaxed timings AND lower DDR4 speeds.
yes, it would be cl14 in both cases, the difference would be in the use of lower voltages with the consequent benefit of temperature and consumption, 3200 cl 14 needs vsoc 0.956 v and ram 1.29 v instead 2933 cl 14 needs vsoc 0.887 v and ram 1.24 v
 

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any idea of were it is the Athlon 200GE and if its a true 2c/4T or a cut down 2200/2400G?
Mainly for price concerns, the Celerons are going for $36 and the cheapest AMD CPU is the awfull $56 A6-9500.
 

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any idea of were it is the Athlon 200GE and if its a true 2c/4T or a cut down 2200/2400G?
Mainly for price concerns, the Celerons are going for $36 and the cheapest AMD CPU is the awfull $56 A6-9500.
The Celerons are awful also. So the $99 Ryzens will have to do. Unless you are that broke that you have to get the $56 A6-9500 or the really bad Celerons for $36.

You get what you pay for,
 

Shivansps

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The Celerons are awful also. So the $99 Ryzens will have to do. Unless you are that broke that you have to get the $56 A6-9500 or the really bad Celerons for $36.

You get what you pay for,
Im not interested in a pointless disscusion about how things work outside EEUU and why you would not say the same if you had to pay *10 everything. I asked a simple question, there is no need to derail it.
 
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Cerb

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any idea of were it is the Athlon 200GE and if its a true 2c/4T or a cut down 2200/2400G?
Mainly for price concerns, the Celerons are going for $36 and the cheapest AMD CPU is the awfull $56 A6-9500.
Bristol Ridge is Bristol Ridge, and Raven Ridge is Raven Ridge. They are all segmented and/or salvaged parts.
 

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- CCX - Compute Complex. Consists of four Zen cores and a shared 8MB L3 cache.

Presuming it has a graphics chip as well, it will probably be 1 CCX with 2 cores disabled and a VEGA 3 graphics chip connected through infinity fabric.
So yes, you could see it as a cut down 2400G. :)

With kind regards,
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Shivansps

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I can see now why is taking so long, i trought they were clearing BR stock, but if that thing is a cut down 2400G they are probably in no hurry to sell them.
 

Hans Gruber

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I'm trying to run a fanless Ryzen 3 1200 mITX box and the temperatures are a bit too high for my taste, what would be the minimum SOC voltage to run with 2666MHz memory? Running default values, HwiNFO reports SoC Voltage (SVI2 TFN) = 0.938V, SoC Power is never below 9W
A bit too high for you taste is how high? I have a Ryzen 3 1200 myself. Water cooled with a 240mm AIO. I have always been planning to upgrade to an 8 core Ryzen when prices permit.
 

vinhom

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A bit too high for you taste is how high? I have a Ryzen 3 1200 myself. Water cooled with a 240mm AIO. I have always been planning to upgrade to an 8 core Ryzen when prices permit.
Idling at 60ºC, topping at 80ºC, ambient temperature at 30ºC plus.
 

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I swapped a 1600 for a 2600x in my ASRock X370 board. The best the 1600 could do with my Corsair Vengeance 3200 was 2933. I thought moving to a 2600X would allow me to run the memory at 3200 but it still freezes. Are non-B-Die chips still limited with Zen+?
 
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