Ryzen 3 / Bristol Ridge AM4 owners thread

[escrow4]

Why a GT630 in that first build back on the first page VL? Its a dog of a card. You'd want a 1030 at least for all round porn er "video" decode.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Why a GT630 in that first build back on the first page VL? Its a dog of a card. You'd want a 1030 at least for all round porn er "video" decode.

Because... I already own it, and it drives a 4K60 display.

 

[Jan Olšan]

There are no A8-9600 reviews besides youtube gaming videos... can anybody with the chip run some CPU benchmarks? I'd like to know a bit more about multimedia performance, preferably at stock settings.

Could somebody report results for
http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/x264-fhd-benchmark-v1-1-64bit.html
http://hw-museum.cz/article/1/hwbot-x265-benchmark/3 (HWBot x265 benchmark)
Or maybe a handbrake test following these guidelines?
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/benchmark-your-computer-with-handbrake-1-01-and-x265.2497224/

and perhaps also this, which is a test of multimedia SIMD in software decoding (might be relevant for AV1 playback in the future)
http://hwbot.org/benchmark/hevc_h.265_decode/
(please post the screenshot with the fps values, that is probably more interesting than the score)

Thanks!

 

[VirtualLarry]

When I get a chance. I just built my second Ryzen 3 rig earlier tonight.

 

[Hans Gruber]

When I get a chance. I just built my second Ryzen 3 rig earlier tonight.

Larry, what motherboard did you get for your Ryzen 3 rig?

 

[VirtualLarry]

I bought a pair of ASRock AB350M (non-Pro4, although I own several of the Pro4 models as well). There's no video outputs on the AB350M, so it seems somewhat discounted. Also, I don't know about the VRMs.

Edit: They were only $59.99 @ Newegg (maybe on ebay). Anyways, I also picked up an Asus Prime B350M-E from Newegg.com for $59.99 recently too. I used that board (has video outputs), for my AMD A8-9600 build. (Non-Ryzen APU build.)

The Ryzen 3 1200 (especially once overclocked to 3.80Ghz), really blows the G4560 and A8-9600 out of the water.

I've got a GTX950 2GB in the R3 build. (Needed 4K60 support.)

 

[1stezekiel]

well, I got my 4.0 overclock. I think I got a good cpu tho. was able to overclock to 4.0 at 1.275v. that's bios voltage. ran prime and noticed voltage of 1.312 during prime. at that voltage my setup gave up after about 6-8 mins worth of prime testing. still isn't too bad at that low a voltage. I went back and bumped to 1.3v in bios and retested. no issues. of course I didn't prime for 8 hours, etc, but I did prime for an hour, no issues. high temp of 65c, 37-38c at idle. not too bad, me thinks.

 

[SkOrPn]

@VirtualLarry

Howdy there. Hey bud, could you give me some overclock advice for my A8-9600 please? I am currently clueless with AMD stuff.

I recently got a "gifted" ASRock AB350M Pro4 because it was always freezing for my Uncle with his R5 1600X. So he gave it to me and got a Prime instead. I normally use Xeons (or i7) myself, but I decided to try and figure out his freezing issue. I been building computers since the late 80's and was a massive enthusiast through the 90's and well into the 2000's, and not so much enthusiast in the last 5 years or so (found other hobbies now). My Overclocked Rampage III Extreme with my Hexa-core Xeon running at 4.5Ghz has been plenty strong for me for a long long time now.

Anyway's I thought I would try and figure this "highly reported" freezing issue out myself and I have spent a LOT of time reading up about it (since at least last Nov, boy is this issue nuts). He didn't send me the board right away so I had him remove the battery and put it in the box. I got it finally about a Month ago and finally managed to get a A8-9600 and 16GB of Team Dark Pro 3200Mhz kit (B-die). I figure I wanted really good Ryzen ram to start off with, even though I am not using Ryzen (plan on it someday).

Anyway for two straight weeks now on Windows 10 1803 I have not been able to get it to freeze once at stock settings, or reboot for that matter. Then yesterday I finally decided to try Overclocking so I set vcore to 1.33 (I don't know why) and turned off CnQ. I already had ram at 2400 since XMP sets it there automatically. I have not set CPU frequency yet as that was late last night and I went to bed and wanted to see if it would freeze or something by morning. I also removed the active cooling I had on the system, two 120mm Yate Loons facing directly at the VRM/AM4 area. By the way, my IR Temp gun does not see any high temps on the board, nothing over 41c has been found, but HWiNFO64 shows AUXTIN1 at 95c most of the time and I have no clue what that is.

This morning I noticed it was at the Windows sign in screen. Very first instability issue and all I did was set vcore and CnQ to disabled. So it must have finally rebooted on its own. HWiNFO64 was set to logging and at the time of reboot all numbers were exactly the same as they were all night long. Nothing at all is standing out as suspicious here. I now plan on removing that crap vrm foam asrock uses (no you cant call this stuff thermal pad, its just white foam) and install some of my Fujipoly Extreme thermal pads on the VRM's, which is considered the god of thermal pads. I also plan on doing something with the TIM on the chipset as well, just in case. I suspect this board is just not good at voltage delivery, especially with a 3+3 phase design.

Now I would like to know more about AMD and AM4 + BR voltages, so hence this post. Again I am an Intel user who wants to try some new AMD stuff and this is what I have to work with for now as a introduction. Could you share some easy set voltages for everything, something that isn't too taxing so I can do more tests please? I am thinking maybe 3.8Ghz cpu, 2400 ram, set voltages for NB, CPU, Ram, etc etc. Again, I have no clue about AMD voltages and just want a easy place to start. Mostly for testing of course as I am hoping I can solve the issue myself.

Thanks for any voltage help and or links to Bristol Ridge settings.
Rod

 

[VirtualLarry]

Well, from what I've read, the Asus B350 Prime -E board that I just happened to pick out for my BR APU, is one of the very few mobos that can OC BR successfully.

My only real experience with my Asrock B350M Pro4 boards is with R5 1600. I have yet to get any of those boards stable (non-freezing) with a Ryzen APU. i haven't tried a BR APU in that board, so I'm afraid that I can't be of much help.

I think that I left voltages on auto on my prime -e board with BR.

The thing is, even if you set a fixed voltage in BIOS on AM4, the chip can override that.

 

[SkOrPn]

Well, from what I've read, the Asus B350 Prime -E board that I just happened to pick out for my BR APU, is one of the very few mobos that can OC BR successfully.

My only real experience with my Asrock B350M Pro4 boards is with R5 1600. I have yet to get any of those boards stable (non-freezing) with a Ryzen APU. i haven't tried a BR APU in that board, so I'm afraid that I can't be of much help.

I think that I left voltages on auto on my prime -e board with BR.

The thing is, even if you set a fixed voltage in BIOS on AM4, the chip can override that.

Yes, I have not noticed the voltages being overridden yet. Is this a override that cant be picked up by software logging?

Earlier I set 3800 Mhz cpu @ 1.3375v and 2400 Mhz ram @ 1.300v but that is about it so far. In Windows it shows it running at 3.8Ghz and ram at 2.4Ghz, but I have only been there for a few hours so far. I have noticed a massive reduction in spontaneous reboots so long I keep the active cooling turned on. But I can't find anything that is actually needing active cooling, and I know my IR Temp Gun is accurate. I don't understand why the active cooling seems to help if the temps are not too serious in the first place. I really do not want to go through a lot of thermal pad/paste work if it has nothing to do with temps, lol. Know what I mean? Maybe the pads are so terrible at heat transfer that I simply can't get to the heat on this side of the sinks.

I am blown away that there is no info on BR on what is and isn't good and bad voltages. I have another AB350 board but its a 350 non M pro4, which I have not even taken out of the box because I am sure it is probably bad. The bottom PCIe x16 slot on that board was shattered apparently, so the power pins shorted out I believe. I got it for $20 off ebay and was going to use it for component parts. I better post this reply before it reboots, lol.

EDIT: Do me a favor please. Click on this imgur link and tell me if those numbers look normal for a AM4 system. Some of the voltages to me look crazy low, I mean NOTHING on my Rampage Extreme looks anything like those. lol

HWMonitor image: https://i.imgur.com/NgnSVUhh.jpg

 

[SkOrPn]

One day later....

Interestingly, after my last post above I decided to flash back to an earlier 3.40 Bridge bios (because of a recommendation at asrock forums) and loaded the default settings, and set 2400 Mhz DDR4 with Auto voltage. Fired up Prime95 and let it run all night with the browser open on like 5 tabs. 18 hours later it was still running??? The system actually feels better when not trying to overclock this APU, at least the browser does. And no freezes or reboots in nearly a day. I will play some more with it over the coming weeks but I will need to delegate it to a older case because a STRIX X470-F is going to fill this case soon.

So far this board seems likely to be just a complete waste of time. Glad I didn't buy this thing myself. Lol

 

[amd6502]

Ok, who's got an A8-9600 besides me, and is overclocking it?

I got mine built, with a 1TB 2.5" 5400RPM FireCuda drive installed.

Well, I overclocked it to 4.0Ghz (40 multi), @ 1.206V + 0.100V offset (don't have a "fixed" option"), and set TDP limit to 65.0W (highest it will go, maybe this should be on "AUTO"? Will it go to 95W on AUTO?).

Still, darn sluggish. CPU load is pretty light, even doing updates. Seems that the bottleneck is the FireCuda, maybe.

Edit: Looks like I managed to just "dial it in". It doesn't want to go any faster. I can POST at 4.3Ghz, AUTO vcore (1.4V+), but it fails to load Windows 10 64-bit properly.

Also, I can't seem to overclock the DDR4-2133 to 2400, even when I push vDIMM from 1.200V to 1.300V.

Ah well, even at a round 4.0Ghz, this things like a slug, kinda. Well, all Bulldozer-derivative CPUs and APUs feel like that to me.

Something isn't working right. XV near 4ghz should be very fast. It's likely working slower being OCd (with something being off) than running at stock. Try geekbench (v3 pref'bly) and comparing to other results.

I don't think it would affect the benchmarks more than high single digits or 10%, but without having an L3, these chips like low latency memory (CAS divided by frequency should be small).

BR really was designed for 30W plus or minus 15w. The fact that they got it to run well for desktops was secondary objective. It's not meant for large wattages like 95w (hence a natural poor match for OCers), and with iGPU fully loaded I'm guessing the CPUs don't often get more than 45W. The previous generation 7000 A-series was meant for desktops (and it sucked for mobile). For XV, they needed to fill a massive temporary hole for mobile 15W APUs that endured all the way from the beginning of H2 2015 to the end of H1 2018. And that was quite a large market compared to desktop.