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Russian jet buzzed US Destroyer for the eleventy billion times...

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Darwin333 said:
I thought I read a while back about really fast torpedoes creating some sort of air bubble around them allowing them to go way faster. Would that change the "speed of sound" in water since the torpedo is encompassed in air? Regardless if it's faster than sound, if it's fast enough so that it's almost at your hull before you hear it then it's way to late to do anything about it.

Disclaimer: I don't know shit about torpedoes or Naval tactics and am not trying to claim that I do, so the above might be completely wrong.
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That's the shkval, linked above. It's about 230 mph max per the link.
 
Darwin333 said:
Since warships don't exactly turn on a dime, is there an effective defense against such a fast torpedo?
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Best defense would be to not let anyone shoot it at you, like with any torpedo. Failing that, maybe decoys.

I do wonder how well its guidance works. Early versions were unguided. I imagine getting a seeker, whether passive or active, to work on something like that would be difficult.
 
Shkval was designed as a nuclear torpedo, so it barely even had a guidance system when it first came out in the 70s. Since then they've all been refitted with conventional warheads and guidance systems, but it's still a ridiculously impractical relic from a time when moar was moar and finesse was using any strategy that wouldn't cause a mass extinction event. It's still impressive from a technical standpoint, but that's all it is.
 
Squisher said:
I wonder what the range is of the ship's on board fire fighting spray nozzles are? Maybe boost up the pressure and mix in a little blue dye. I'd rather be dead than red.
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LOL, that would be pretty darn funny...at night, you can even hit them with luminescent dye.
 
I've always wondered that if there were a war - I mean a real war against a 1st world adversary, not the backward primitives we've been fighting with little success for a decade - whether or not our aircraft carriers would be defensible. My guess is that not a single one would survive for more than 48 hours.

Can you imagine the casualty reports? "The USS John C. Stennis was sunk today. Early reports are that more than 4000 of the 6500 men and women on board have been lost."
 
Eh, I'm a huge Obama hater....but this isn't the time to call Obama weak BECAUSE of these incidents.
A more threatening posture would be a radar jammer or targeting radar on full burn from miles away. But they aren't doing that.
 
Carson Dyle said:
I've always wondered that if there were a war - I mean a real war against a 1st world adversary, not the backward primitives we've been fighting with little success for a decade - whether or not our aircraft carriers would be defensible. My guess is that not a single one would survive for more than 48 hours.

Can you imagine the casualty reports? "The USS John C. Stennis was sunk today. Early reports are that more than 4000 of the 6500 men and women on board have been lost."
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Most carriers wouldn't be in the range of Russian air bases. They just have to battle with Russian carrier groups with their carrier attack aircraft...and that would be a lopsided battle. Not because of Russian know how, but they aren't known for carrier based ops.


An offensive attack against Russia is mostly a long range solution using Euro bases or Guam, or Nebraska, or Diego Garcia.
 
Carson Dyle said:
I've always wondered that if there were a war - I mean a real war against a 1st world adversary, not the backward primitives we've been fighting with little success for a decade - whether or not our aircraft carriers would be defensible. My guess is that not a single one would survive for more than 48 hours.

Can you imagine the casualty reports? "The USS John C. Stennis was sunk today. Early reports are that more than 4000 of the 6500 men and women on board have been lost."
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foghorn67 said:
Most carriers wouldn't be in the range of Russian air bases. They just have to battle with Russian carrier groups with their carrier attack aircraft...and that would be a lopsided battle. Not because of Russian know how, but they aren't known for carrier based ops.


An offensive attack against Russia is mostly a long range solution using Euro bases or Guam, or Nebraska, or Diego Garcia.
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A big part of CVBG security is the secrecy of it's location. If the group moves at 30 knots, that's 3,000 sq. miles of ambiguity in just one hour.

I don't think there is an airborne threat the fleet can't handle with Aegis and F/A-18s or F-35s flying CAP. I think subs/torpedoes are a much bigger threat. There is a lot of secrecy around tactics and capabilities for ASW. I'd say that it seems unlikely that a rival nation state has the ability to sink all of our carriers in 2 days.

In any case, a shooting war between nuclear powers that escalates to the point where we're sinking each other's carriers means the world has turned into a special kind of hell that I prefer to not even think about.
 
zinfamous said:
lol, he thinks Reagan had a "big stick" The dude was a barely-conscious tomato his last 5 years in office while the country was being run by Nancy's astrologer.

Also, Gorbachev is not Putin. A world with Jon Conner in charge would be a world made of glass.
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Don't try to understand me. You won't. Especially since you didn't even know what DNS was or OpenDNS.
 
John Connor said:
Don't try to understand me. You won't. Especially since you didn't even know what DNS was or OpenDNS.
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This has been going on for decades, we play games as well. Boys and their toys. They know the game and everyone plays.
 
BudAshes said:
You have an entire forum that's entirely populated by yourself. You might be the biggest loser in this place, and that is really saying something.
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My forum has a few members so it's NOT entirely populated by myself. No forum started out with a billion users and my site was created just last year and out of boredom. Hench the name, "My forum project."

Besides, being the "loser" I am I made my forum a hell of a lot better than this one with a wealth of features. You can even upload HTML5 video and audio providing you have a FTP. On top of that 106 media links are supported like, Sound cloud, YouTube, Amazon, Mediacafe, etc, etc.

This "loser" thinks he did a very good job. This "loser" thinks between the anti-spam/scrape script and control I have I've done pretty damn good for myself.

Now, only a real loser would tell someone else that has done that he's a loser.

Now keep calm and play your theme song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ui_Q4qBDJY
 
foghorn67 said:
Most carriers wouldn't be in the range of Russian air bases. They just have to battle with Russian carrier groups with their carrier attack aircraft...and that would be a lopsided battle. Not because of Russian know how, but they aren't known for carrier based ops.


An offensive attack against Russia is mostly a long range solution using Euro bases or Guam, or Nebraska, or Diego Garcia.
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Clancy's Red Storm Rising had a pretty good depiction of two attacks on a Carrier battle group in the Atlantic...in both instances, russian bombers (supersonic backfires and older badgers) launched anti-ship missiles at long range...in the first attack, Russians used Kelt missiles as drones to fool the US Navy into thinking they were actual bombers...several of the missile made it through the aegis defense cloud and the last stand phalanx...in the 2nd attack, the US Navy detected the bombers further out and were able to down most of them before they could launch...some of the missiles still made it through...

pretty good read though...
 
Humpy said:
The visitor at your forum today was me!

Holy crap I feel sad after seeing dozens of threads started by John Connor with zero replies. 🙁
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I can't tell. I see lots of visitors in the server log. Are you from Mississippi? If you are really in Mexico, expect a Cloudflare JavaScript challenge. LMAO!

Hey! Did you see MY babe thread? LMAO! It's in The Pub, but be forewarned. Turn the audio to low. HAHAHAHA
 
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John Connor said:
I can't tell. I see lots of visitors in the server log. Are you from Mississippi? If you are really in Mexico, expect a Cloudflare JavaScript challenge. LMAO!

Hey! Did you see MY babe thread? LMAO! It's in The Pub, but be forewarned. Turn the audio to low. HAHAHAHA
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Right now I'm in New Mexico until I figure out a way to get back over the border permanently.

Good luck with the forum. Whether it works out or not, I always think it's pretty admirable to put in the effort to create something on your own.
 
BudAshes said:
It would be kind of funny if they just blew those jets up and then blamed it on a new automated defense system. What could Russia do about it? Nothing, but I bet they wouldn't fly so close anymore.
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I don't know. Maybe invade some country similar to how they went into Syria or Ukraine, where we can't/won't do shit about it?
 
Humpy said:
Right now I'm in New Mexico until I figure out a way to get back over the border permanently.

Good luck with the forum. Whether it works out or not, I always think it's pretty admirable to put in the effort to create something on your own.
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Thx! It took me many, many hours. And I back up everything to no less than five locations and onto optical media. That forum and a Wordpress blog I have, compressed in an encrypted SFX archive comes to around 85 MB. LOL
 
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