Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[you2]

I tought that was a joke..

https://www.npr.org/2025/08/16/nx-s1-5504196/trump-putin-summit-documents-left-behind

But NYT confirms this...

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/17/us/politics/trump-putin-summit-papers-hotel.html

It let me say: OH COME ON! So bad is the security in the country now?

You know it is a culture divide between right and left; the skill vs corrupt unskilled. I mean it is in plain sight you have a clown running hhs and military and well just abut everything up to the presidency which by the way is why he has to paint himself orange all the time; needs that good clown look.

 

[manly]

Is that like a 14 to 1 kill ratio in favor of Ukraine?

Is DJT pulling those numbers out of his ass? If Russia actually lost 100k KIA in 7 months, they are getting fucked hard and could simply collapse if that keeps going. But that's probably not exactly what's going on these past 7 months. We do know that broadly speaking, Russia doesn't value the lives of its grunts all that much. Through Ukraine's bravery and ingenuity, they are fighting a much larger adversary to a near draw.

Wiki has some estimates for the entire war since 2022, the KIA ratio is about 5 to 2 (caveat: nobody really knows).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine#Casualties

 

[fskimospy]

Some analysis and points....

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1) Ukraine already had US security guaranties via the Budapest Memorandum. Didn't really count for much.
2) Putin will never meet with Zelenskyy. Putin doesn't acknowledge Ukrainian sovereignty and Zelenskyy as its President.
3) Trump wants a peace deal. He doesn't care what it costs.

So I sincerely hope that Ukraine and Europe has a plan B. They really need to go it mostly alone and treat the USA as a military hardware store and hope that Trump will keep its intel flowing and keep the Russian banks from the Swift network.

The only US security guarantee in the Budapest memorandum was that the US would not invade Ukraine and it did not.

 

[Jaskalas]

The only US security guarantee in the Budapest memorandum was that the US would not invade Ukraine and it did not.

What a lovely way to ensure nuclear proliferation then.
If we will not stand for and actively defend those without, then we betray life on earth. Including our own.

 

[Jaskalas]

Trump refused a joint meeting with European leaders and will meet attack Zelensky alone

Why are they approaching a hostile state?
Under MAGA Nazis, the United States is the enemy.

 

[fskimospy]

What a lovely way to ensure nuclear proliferation then.
If we will not stand for and actively defend those without, then we betray life on earth. Including our own.

You can like it or dislike it if you want but it's a very enduring myth that the US said it would protect Ukraine in that memorandum and the US just... did not.

 

[Indus]

Here's my conspiracy theory:

Following his 1-2-1 in the beast, this will have been discussed and agreed

Trump will come around to Europe's way of thinking
Trump will agree and tell Putin that he must immediately agree to a ceasefire within 48hrs "or else"
Zelensky will agree and abide by the ceasefire
Putin will create a falseflag attack and Trump will fall for it
Trump has an exit route without losing too much face



But honestly since Trump wants to take America back to older times.. EU and Zelensky should ask for Trump and Putin' to be decapitated as a condition for peace.

Remember Caesar, Pompei and Egypt? It's not the first time in history for such a demand and it's been met happily by people willing to sacrifice for their countries!

 

[fskimospy]

Here's my conspiracy theory:

Following his 1-2-1 in the beast, this will have been discussed and agreed

Trump will come around to Europe's way of thinking
Trump will agree and tell Putin that he must immediately agree to a ceasefire within 48hrs "or else"
Zelensky will agree and abide by the ceasefire
Putin will create a falseflag attack and Trump will fall for it
Trump has an exit route without losing too much face



But honestly since Trump wants to take America back to older times.. EU and Zelensky should ask for Trump and Putin' to be decapitated as a condition for peace.

Remember Caesar, Pompei and Egypt? It's not the first time in history for such a demand and it's been met happily by people willing to sacrifice for their countries!

There will be no ceasefire because Russia does not want a ceasefire. Nothing of importance will come from this.