Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[Brovane]

An election makes perfect sense-maybe, just maybe, the actual Ukrainian people should get a say in their future instead of Green Goblin cancelling elections like some discount-tier dictator.

Does Russia pinky promise not to interfere in Ukrainian elections?

 

[K1052]

The funny thing is that Trump/Putin trying to force a deal on Ukraine that they hate would probably bolster Zelensky’s approval and electoral prospects lol.

 

[Young Grasshopper]

The funny thing is that Trump/Putin trying to force a deal on Ukraine that they hate would probably bolster Zelensky’s approval and electoral prospects lol.

You really think if he ‘wins’ the election, it’s somehow a good thing for him?

He’s cooked regardless. The election is just a cleaner way of purging him out of office.

 

[Muse]

The funny thing is that Trump/Putin trying to force a deal on Ukraine that they hate would probably bolster Zelensky’s approval and electoral prospects lol.

You don't change horses in mid-stream. I can't imagine Ukrainians want a different president at this point. He's even got over 50% approval rating now and at the polls that would expand.

 

[sdifox]

You don't change horses in mid-stream. I can't imagine Ukrainians want a different president at this point. He's even got over 50% approval rating now and at the polls that would expand.

Ukraine got a very capable president out of a comedian. USA decided they want the grifter back.

 

[trenchfoot]

Does Russia pinky promise not to interfere in Ukrainian elections?

Chances of him keeping a promise is like having Trump promise to put the needs of the working class people of the nation before his own. Besides, Putin is as bad or worse than Trump at keeping promises. They both view making promises as a means to an end that invariably leads to breaking said promises because those pledges made have either expired from uselessness or have now become a burden hung around their necks that will prove they're the liars they don't want to be seen as.

Enter the faithful dumbed down followers who enabled Trump the teller of tall tales, not even caring they're being lied to because in their crippled minds it's all for the cause consisting mostly of purifying the blood of America and stick'in it to the libs. Can't wait for the time when Trump's followers become more afraid of him than they were adoring him just as Putin has transformed his own people's respect into fear.. By then it would all be too late to snap out of that fallacious trance FOX and Trump's shit stained tongue put them in, just as planned.

 

[Brovane]

You really think if he ‘wins’ the election, it’s somehow a good thing for him?

He’s cooked regardless. The election is just a cleaner way of purging him out of office.

Did you ever figure out how many Russians have died so far in the "special operation"?

 

[Paratus]

God damn.

 

[Muse]

God damn.

Was this simultaneous like the Mossad attack on Hezbolah in Lebanon?

 

[Paratus]

Was this simultaneous like the Mossad attack on Hezbolah in Lebanon?

Don’t know that’s all I found so far.

 

[misuspita]

My question is, will Trump disallow US weapon sales to Europe? This will have a huge impact short term as Europe has to adjust to not having access to US weapon manufacturers.

Out of spite he might try to do it, but the orders from Europe are huge. If they canceled all the orders and go full "no more US weapons allowed", I'm guessing US stand to lose close to half a trillion orders, which might trigger a hefty response from congress, lobbyists and companies. He is transactional, wants to make money for his billionaires, not lose a shit ton of it.

Problem might be that France always opposed the idea of buying external, so this might make a lot more EU nations aware of the problem and cancel orders or not make new ones from US... It might even trigger a obligation to use those 700 billion € funds in enlarging existing Euro companies. Who knows, the world is not used to the pace Trump team spews bullshit

I am guessing the speed is a requirement, a blitzkrieg against the internal opposition, until they overwhelm the defence (dems, courts) before they can meaningfully react to what is happening

 

[jdubs03]

You really think if he ‘wins’ the election, it’s somehow a good thing for him?

He’s cooked regardless. The election is just a cleaner way of purging him out of office.

That’s why he has +13 approval rating at a minimum. And btw the only one rigging elections is your daddy Vlad. Piss off scourge.

Edit: My bad. It’s +20.

Jackass.

 

[silverspaceship]

I’m thrilled that this war is finally winding down meanwhile, you’re outraged that the meat grinder is shutting down. 500,000 dead Ukrainians, $200 billion of taxpayer money burned, and a quarter of the country lost and you still want to keep the bloodshed going? At some point, you’ve got to ask yourself if this was ever about helping Ukraine or just ‘sticking it to Putin’ no matter how many lives it costs.

This is exactly what Trump campaigned on and why he won: to end these endless wars.

Haha, now I understand what [DHT]Osiris was talking about. In Pokrovsk, the last functioning post offices are now being closed, because russian f*ggots are just 3 km from the city—my close friend is currently in that direction. If you're waiting for "the deal" and for everything to be over by spring, you're a dumbass and can go play in the sandbox.

American taxpayers' money went to American miltech companies that develop and assemble weapons for Ukraine. In what way did they burn?

 

[jdubs03]

Haha, now I understand what [DHT]Osiris was talking about. In Pokrovsk, the last functioning post offices are now being closed, because russian f*ggots are just 3 km from the city—my close friend is currently in that direction. If you're waiting for "the deal" and for everything to be over by spring, you're a dumbass and can go play in the sandbox.

It’s impossible to argue with these tankie morons. They form words and sentences that amount to all kinds of bullshit that somehow they believe.

He’s excited because Trump is a fascist like his deity is and thus he jizzed all over when Trump moronically stated that Ukraine shouldn’t have fought the invaders; parroting Putins’ propaganda. Any normal decent human being would reflect on what dipshit Donny said and want to pull their hair out. An American president doing Putins’ bidding. It’s beyond despicable.

Anyone that speaks like they do, advocate for the torture and murder of tens of thousands if not more innocent people. Their goal is for only this: for Russia to annex Ukraine, subjugate the people, and extract its resources.

It’s like rooting on the Nazis in September 1939. Fucking evil.

 

[mikeymikec]

An election makes perfect sense-maybe, just maybe, the actual Ukrainian people should get a say in their future instead of Green Goblin cancelling elections like some discount-tier dictator.

You're arguing that the guy who thought it best not to hold elections in the middle of a war zone and thereby paint targets on civilians' backs by having them gather at polling centres for Russians to shell the shit out of them while:

Trump: "You'll never have to vote again" and Putin kills anyone who tries to oppose him.

If you're not being paid by the Russians for all this shilling, then ask yourself why the hell you're doing it.

 

[K1052]

American taxpayers' money went to American miltech companies that develop and assemble weapons for Ukraine. In what way did they burn?

We supplied about $27B worth of munitions and equipment drawn from existing stockpiles (much of this as Cold War surplus) and have contracted for another $32B out of USAI which orders American weapons from American manufacturers for Ukraine (though these are not nearly all delivered yet). There are additional investments in the US production base which benefit American companies and workers. The claims that this money was wasted or stolen are of course incorrect.

Also Trump's idea that Ukraine owes the US $500B is ludicrous. Total direct aid tops out around $100B and the Europeans as a whole have contributed more than we have already, some countries far more as a percentage of GDP. Zelensky is totally correct to tell him to get lost.

 

[Perknose]

I think the odds of a successful peace negotiation are pretty low and Europe should simply plan for long term support without the US.

This is where we are, most likely, and it's not entirely a bad thing . . . even as this retreat by the US is so ignorant and wrong as to set my hair on fire.

 

[Pontius Dilate]

An election makes perfect sense-maybe, just maybe, the actual Ukrainian people should get a say in their future instead of Green Goblin cancelling elections like some discount-tier dictator.

See, doesn't it feel better going mask-off? Let the hate flow through you.

 

[RalphTheCow]

Holy crap! What a A|##> mess the Cheeto is creating!

Moscow launches drone attack on Odesa – as it happened — Guardian US

This blog is closing now but you can find our latest full story on the falling out between the US and Ukraine here and all our Ukraine coverage here.

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[Perknose]

I’m thrilled that this war is finally winding down meanwhile, you’re outraged that the meat grinder is shutting down. 500,000 dead Ukrainians, $200 billion of taxpayer money burned, and a quarter of the country lost and you still want to keep the bloodshed going? At some point, you’ve got to ask yourself if this was ever about helping Ukraine or just ‘sticking it to Putin’ no matter how many lives it costs.

No one here believes your "tender concern" for Ukraine. If you are a paid agent of the Kremlin, you're not a very good one. If you're just an idiot fanboy for the Imperial ambitions of Vladdy Boy, then I hope you grow up some day.

 

[K1052]

This is where we are, most likely, and it's not entirely a bad thing . . . even as this retreat by the US is so ignorant and wrong as to set my hair on fire.

Ignorant and wrong pretty fairly describes the entire Trump administration thus far.

 

[K1052]

Holy crap! What a A|##> mess the Cheeto is creating!

Moscow launches drone attack on Odesa – as it happened — Guardian US

This blog is closing now but you can find our latest full story on the falling out between the US and Ukraine here and all our Ukraine coverage here.

apple.news

Based on what I see of Ukrainian reaction to Trump now it's basically gone from cautiously optimistic to "fuck you". Not only is he super wrong he's insulting and this is not likely to convince Zelensky or their parliament that they should make concessions. Likely the opposite as has happened in other countries he's tried to bully lately.

 

[silverspaceship]

Based on what I see of Ukrainian reaction to Trump now it's basically gone from cautiously optimistic to "fuck you". Not only is he super wrong he's insulting and this is not likely to convince Zelensky or their parliament that they should make concessions. Likely the opposite as has happened in other countries he's tried to bully lately.

Yes, many Ukrainians had hoped that maybe Trump could help end this war. However, I was more pessimistic about it—because when you see what the russians are doing by sending thousands of their troops to be processed into meat, and simply wiping cities to ashes... Well, it doesn't seem at all that Russia/Putin wants peace.

And therefore, any attempts to come to them first with negotiations will mean our capitulation.

 

[DZero]

My question is, will Trump disallow US weapon sales to Europe? This will have a huge impact short term as Europe has to adjust to not having access to US weapon manufacturers.

Add if USA decides to sell the weapons to Russia AND Russia blocks any sells outside USA...

Yeah, Europe and China gets screwed

Agree. Russia is not winning, they can't even throw Ukraine out of Kursk. Even with the help of North Korea.

And certainly, if the 700b Euro comes through for Ukraine, they will be able to keep going until Russia vacates the field.

And the Euro fund will easily carry it past Trump's presidency.

The worst thing Trump will be able to do is to cancel the economic sanctions in a hiss fit since he won't get 1/2 of Ukraine's natural resources. This will make it much easier for Russia to sell oil and buy equipment and gear from China. America's weaponisation of Swift have kept alot of Chinese production out of Russian reach.

Well.. unless... USA lift that block to Russia to just buy equipment ONLY to USA and viceversa.

 

[Amused]

Well, it looks like my prediction was correct:

Trump and Putin will "reach an agreement." When Ukraine rejects it, Trump will claim Ukraine is the instigator and attempt to align the US against Ukraine with Russia as the US ally.

Watch.