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Remember Russia started all of this. The Western Nations had no interest in attacking Russia.
Briahna Joy Gray
@briebriejoy
She's smart, she's articulate, AND she's so, so wrong on Ukraine it makes my skin crawl.
Her points are whatboutisms and operate on the idea that foreign policy should rely on some great moral underpinning instead of the practical realities of running a country and interacting with other nation-states.She is making *excellent* points, we can all agree as to how we'd like the world to look like... then realize the only way to get there is one step at a time..
If the Uyghurs were an independent country fighting an imperial invasion from China, we might be arming them too.Hey, if we could invade China and free the Uighurs easily without risking nuclear war I wouldn't be opposed. It is bad, it's just not something that can be solved with force right now.
I can't remember if it was Tolstoy or Dostoevsky, but in one of their books they tackle this question. Basically it is an innate "serf mentality" that makes them gravitate towards "strongmen" and be okay with their conditions. Those books were written a while ago of course, so I don't know whether that definitely applies in this modern day...but maybe it's as true as it was back then.What surprises me about Russians is the level of acceptance/expectations of misery.
Of course they were lying, of course they were corrupt, of course they will use you and let you die miserable deaths, yet soldiers volunteer?
If the Uyghurs were an independent country fighting an imperial invasion from China, we might be arming them too.
Briahna Joy Gray
@briebriejoy
She's smart, she's articulate, AND she's so, so wrong on Ukraine it makes my skin crawl.
I can't remember if it was Tolstoy or Dostoevsky, but in one of their books they tackle this question. Basically it is an innate "serf mentality" that makes them gravitate towards "strongmen" and be okay with their conditions. Those books were written a while ago of course, so I don't know whether that definitely applies in this modern day...but maybe it's as true as it was back then.
I'm pretty confident this is a joke but you're right with Russian state TV you can't be 100% sure.
Briahna Joy Gray
@briebriejoy
She's smart, she's articulate, AND she's so, so wrong on Ukraine it makes my skin crawl.
I hope it's true, probably not, but so karmic.
Yuri murders, rapes and loots. Hauls his spoils back to Mordor for his gleeful wench to climb her new throne in triumph.
The stinking bomb that drops wasn't the one she expects.
What's the quote? All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.This thinking that people should just sit back and do nothing while someone weaker is attacked is a huge problem, it breeds complacency and acceptance of the unacceptable.
Unless you think this war will still be going on in 2025 (It might!) there's no logical way Putin would have an ally as Congress has almost zero power over foreign policy.The United States will betray Europe / NATO / Ukraine sooner rather than later. Putin isn't just buying for time with the lives of the mobilized, soon he will have an Ally.
Fox News has done its job well.
New WSJ survey: 81% of Democrats said they supported additional aid for Ukraine, while only 35% of Republicans and 45% of independents said the same
Unless you think this war will still be going on in 2025 (It might!) there's no logical way Putin would have an ally as Congress has almost zero power over foreign policy.
The United States will betray Europe / NATO / Ukraine sooner rather than later. Putin isn't just buying for time with the lives of the mobilized, soon he will have an Ally.
Fox News has done its job well.
New WSJ survey: 81% of Democrats said they supported additional aid for Ukraine, while only 35% of Republicans and 45% of independents said the same
Even that I doubt. Democrats are already putting through a big aid package before the next congressional term and Biden will be able to monkey with available funding for a good long time.They sure have a hand in voting for aid.
The United States has been a leading provider of security assistance to Ukraine, particularly since Russia launched its renewed and expanded invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022. From 2014, when Russia first invaded Ukraine, through October 14, 2022, the United States has provided more than $20.3 billion in security assistance “to help Ukraine preserve its territorial integrity, secure its borders, and improve interoperability with NATO.” Of this amount, the Biden Administration has committed about $17.6 billion in security assistance since the start of the 2022 war. FY2022 and FY2023 security assistance packages are mostly being funded via almost $28 billion in supplemental appropriations (P.L. 117-103, Div. N; P.L. 117-128; and P.L. 117-180, Div. B). FY2022 and FY2023 appropriations include a total of $14.05 billion to replenish Department of Defense (DOD) equipment stocks sent to Ukraine via presidential drawdown authority; $9.3 billion for DOD’s Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative (USAI; P.L. 114-92, §1250); and $4.65 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF; 22 U.S.C. §2763) for Ukraine and “countries impacted by the situation in Ukraine.” Supplemental appropriations also have included funds for U.S. European Command operations and related support for the U.S. military.
Congress has 100% control over the purse strings, and MAGA-Q can defund all Ukraine aid/appropriations (and they fully plan to, although it will only be 3rd or 4th priority after impeaching Biden at least 3 times, setting up special investigation and hearings on Hunter 24/7, killing all Jan 6 investigations and inquiries, and blocking all Biden appointments to all offices and judges, and hard defaulting on the US government payments to extort what they want)Unless you think this war will still be going on in 2025 (It might!) there's no logical way Putin would have an ally as Congress has almost zero power over foreign policy.
Well you will be pleasantly surprised when Republicans are completely unable to defund Ukraine aid and appropriations then, haha.Congress has 100% control over the purse strings, and MAGA-Q can defund all Ukraine aid/appropriations (and they fully plan to, although it will only be 3rd or 4th priority after impeaching Biden at least 3 times, setting up special investigation and hearings on Hunter 24/7, killing all Jan 6 investigations and inquiries, and blocking all Biden appointments to all offices and judges)