zinfamous
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Well then call it a penal colony right now if you want, but Liman is now effectively and unambiguously under control of the UA.
Well then call it a penal colony right now if you want, but Liman is now effectively and unambiguously under control of the UA.
Jaskalas
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Clearing that out may delay further Ukrainian advances. Hope not....
I will compromise with most of the city is under control of the Ukrainian Army.
However, until the Russian's surrender or are wiped out, it is not fully captured. I imagine m777s moving into position to end this as we speculate here.
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KMFJD
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posted and deleted by cpac, showing their true colours
MomentsofSanity
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Ukrainian occupied territories eh? Fucking water boys to the end.
Do not think it is fake.
Russian units attempted to infiltrate through advancing Ukrainian units in the forest last night to flee Lyman. Complete chaos erupted. A whole bunch likely went to ground and are hiding in the forest. This is likely going after those units.
This is also Psyops. We know from one of your posts that Ukrainian units and Russian units were intermixed in the forest last night. This is the UA claiming they won the battle to discourage remaining Russian soldiers hiding in the forest from continuing the battle and encourage disconnected Ukrainian units also in the forest reestablish command, control, and resupply.
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gorobei
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same guys who went through google maps to assess rus vehicle storage yards near the start of the war decided to pay for sat imaging of before and after the start of the war. they have some updated numbers and corrections.
seems globalsecurity.org needs to start doing their own research.
K1052
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zinfamous
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why clear it out, though? or at least, spend significant time and resources on doing it so quickly--like I said, just treat it has a penal colony and entrap them so that the primary advance forces can focus on killing more Russians along the front.
Obviously, the concern for any UKR citizens remaining in Liman is serious and should not be ignored, but I don't see why you can't put the backline, international volunteers in charge of cleaning it out. I mean, we can just ignore that because I imagine that these duties aren't relegated to the elite advance troops, anyway, so dealing with Liman asap probably wouldn't be slowing down any advance.
zinfamous
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The GOP must be eliminated in order for the United States to remain free. These fucking fascists have no place in the First World.
Russia continues to suffer massive equipment losses.
JTsyo
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From the interviews I've seen the response is most likely going to be non-nuclear so as not to escalte. An example given was sinking the Russian Navy in the Black Sea. WH has been talking to Russia directly, not sure if they laid out exact consequences.
I find it fucking amazing that this guy is still alive. Rock on.
cytg111
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Who the fuck knew that dude had balls.
I dont need a ride, I need ammunition.
He is going down next to the Churchills of history.
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You would think Russia could just use a satellite to see the dump truck they haul his nuts around with, I guess their tech is even further back than we realized.
Meghan54
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I really think that, by this point,Russia is better off with him alive. Martyrs can foment very impassioned actions…
Jaskalas
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Keeping him alive, gives Ukraine someone who can issue a ceasefire before the military reaches Moscow.
You strike Kyiv, decent chance Ukrainians don't stop until Russia dies.
RnR_au
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The Russian talking heads are slowly moving the discussion points towards a fully fledged war declaration on Ukraine allowing full war mobilisation across the economy and public assets;
zinfamous
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the troll-looking sonny bono guy will be getting windowed by the end of this night, think....
how dare he criticize the Russian failures this week, let alone mentioning that it even happened on public propaganda sphere.
bad news.
Rupert needs to whip him a few more.
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My white cat Pye passed two years ago at the ripe old age of 18. Maybe that's why I love this (the second one) so:
Drach
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Sounds like Ukraine is pushing farther into Kherson.
Jaskalas
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Russians are on the wrong side of the river. Only reason they are still there... Russia kept throwing more meat into the grinder. And Ukraine is very interested to know just how much of a sacrifice Russia is willing to make for a completely untenable position. I figure at some point the Russians, after month(s) of begging the Kremlin for a smarter defensive line... are simply going to collapse on this front. It really doesn't matter how many Russian corpses Putin wants, the military will not bleed out forever.
Meanwhile, we push on past Lyman!
K1052
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Indicates the Russians do not have control of the P66 highway and that Ukrainian recon elements have reached it. That's a problem.
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