Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[K1052]

Yeah this is not going to work and will just harden Ukrainian demands when there are eventually talks and the Ukrainian public will hate Russia for generations. It’s not like the source of the power outages is mismanagement, it’s Russian missiles and everyone knows it. The idea they won’t take all the blame is delusional.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595443654033817603

 

[darkswordsman17]

I mean, considering all their other attempts to frame shit as Ukraine's fault have failed, I'm sure bombing their infrastructure some more will be the tipping point and it won't at all just further prove what scumsucking psychopaths the Russians are. JHumeC, its like Russia dutch-ovened itself by catching all its propaganda farts and trapping them and then breathing nothing but(t).

 

[Racan]

Really past time to provide Ukraine with weapons 150-300km range to run the Russians out of southern Ukraine including Crimea.

Unfortunately I don’t see that happening because that would trigger an ”escalation” 🙄

 

[Young Grasshopper]

Here we go again with the brain dead claim that Ukraine is controlled and motivated by Nazis. Ukraine, a country that overwhelmingly voted in an openly JEWISH president with 74% of the vote.

This Nazi shit is Russian projection. Their own fucking mercenary group is named after Hitler's favorite composer.

Just stop. You can't seem to do more than regurgitate cheap Russian propaganda that only idiots would believe,

Still think the Nazi thing is a hoax? BTW CNN was kicked out of Kherson for airing that.


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[K1052]

Next us aid round. Refills for NASAMS and MLRS. Interesting addition of what I assume are M2A1s with thermal optics.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1595457494737879040

 

[Amused]

Still think the Nazi thing is a hoax? BTW CNN was kicked out of Kherson for airing that.


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This is the typical propaganda talking point. Take an isolated case, and present it as the majority.

Are there neo-Nazis in Ukraine? Yes. Is Ukraine controlled by neo-Nazis and motivated by neo-nazi ideology? Obviously not when 74 fucking % of the population voted for a fucking Jewish man as their president.

Yes, the Nazi thing IS a hoax, as presented. Ukraine is no more a Nazi country than the US. I dare say the US has far more neo-Nazis than the Ukraine. And our own president characterized them as "very fine people" after they marched through the streets chanting "Jews will not replace us."

Is the US "Nazified" and ourself defense motivated by Nazi ideology?

 

[Amused]

There were no nationalist battalions? There were no symbols of the SS and other divisions of the Third Reich among Ukrainian servicemen? There were no torch marches in Ukraine dedicated to the memory of Hitler's collaborators?

Your anger doesn't make you any more right, with your "holy rage" you are trying to hide an inconvenient truth, which is a very popular technique among Ukrainians.

This is the typical propaganda talking point. Take isolated cases, and present it as the majority.

Are there neo-Nazis in Ukraine? Yes. Is Ukraine controlled by neo-Nazis and motivated by neo-nazi ideology? Obviously not when 74 fucking % of the population voted for a fucking Jewish man as their president.

Yes, the Nazi thing IS a hoax, as presented. Ukraine is no more a Nazi country than the US. I dare say the US has far more neo-Nazis than the Ukraine. And our own Putin wannabe puppet president characterized them as "very fine people" after they marched through the streets chanting "Jews will not replace us."

Is the US "Nazified" and our self defense motivated by Nazi ideology?

Russia has a mercenary group led by a man covered in Nazi tattoos who is a personal friend of your totalitarian, Hitler style dictator. Is Russia motivated by Nazi ideology?

The projection is sad, pathetic, and very obvious.

 

[fskimospy]

These arguments feel exactly like blaming a rape victim for what she was wearing.

Here’s a good interview where Mearsheimer totally beclowns himself.

John Mearsheimer on Putin’s Ambitions After Nine Months of War

The realist political scientist explains why Russia’s move to annex four Ukrainian provinces isn’t imperialism.

www.newyorker.com

Basically he says that Russia had no imperial ambitions before invading Ukraine because Putin said so. When asked if maybe Putin was lying he says, and I’m not kidding, that world leaders rarely lie to each other. When asked if Hitler lied before WW2 he says ‘once or twice’.

lol.

 

[K1052]

Apparently the Moldovans are very pissed the Russians have blacked out their country. Sooner or later they should ask Ukraine for an assist to clean out Transnistria. They’d readily agree.

 

[Perknose]

Here’s a good interview where Mearsheimer totally beclowns himself.

John Mearsheimer on Putin’s Ambitions After Nine Months of War

The realist political scientist explains why Russia’s move to annex four Ukrainian provinces isn’t imperialism.

www.newyorker.com

Basically he says that Russia had no imperial ambitions before invading Ukraine because Putin said so. When asked if maybe Putin was lying he says, and I’m not kidding, that world leaders rarely lie to each other. When asked if Hitler lied before WW2 he says ‘once or twice’.

lol.

This interview is laugh out loud absurd:

"Before he violated Ukrainian sovereignty, he respected Ukrainian sovereignty, because he said he did?

I’m just telling you what he said in the July 12, 2021, article that he wrote, the famous article.

I just meant that if he’s saying that he respects Ukrainian sovereignty and then he invades Ukraine, it makes me wonder if we should believe him when he says he respects its sovereignty. I don’t know."

 

[Indus]

There were no nationalist battalions? There were no symbols of the SS and other divisions of the Third Reich among Ukrainian servicemen? There were no torch marches in Ukraine dedicated to the memory of Hitler's collaborators?

Your anger doesn't make you any more right, with your "holy rage" you are trying to hide an inconvenient truth, which is a very popular technique among Ukrainians.

Ah right..

Credit should be given where due. By far most successful division of the Russian Army :

The Russian Washing Machine Looters.. who executed the Ukrainian Civilians and then liberated and de-nazified the washing machines.

New statue just inaugurated in Moscow.

 

[Jaskalas]

This interview is laugh out loud absurd:

"Before he violated Ukrainian sovereignty, he respected Ukrainian sovereignty, because he said he did?

I’m just telling you what he said in the July 12, 2021, article that he wrote, the famous article.

I just meant that if he’s saying that he respects Ukrainian sovereignty and then he invades Ukraine, it makes me wonder if we should believe him when he says he respects its sovereignty. I don’t know."

Putin straight up said Ukraine has no sovereignty and no right to exist.

And with consistency throughout the years. Russia claims Ukrainian land. All of it.

June 25, 2021:
The Week In Russia: Insecurity, Insincerity, And Distrust

Despite the fact that until the seizure of Crimea, Russia had formally recognized Ukraine and its borders, it was far from the first time Putin has sought to cast doubt on the neighboring country's legitimacy as a nation and an independent state.​

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In 2008, he reportedly told U.S. President George W. Bush that Ukraine was "not even a country."​

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Putin has also said, as recently as last year, that Ukrainians and Russians are "one people," an assertion that seems meant to sound like a positive statement -- but to some is an affront that goes deeper than his remarks about Ukraine's statehood.​

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Meanwhile, Putin's provocative comments about the neighboring country may sound mild compared to those of Vladislav Surkov, a longtime former aide who was his top adviser on Ukraine policy -- what an interviewer from the Financial Times described as the stage manager of the seizure of Crimea and Donbas war.​

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In February 2020, in his first interview since his departure from the Kremlin, Surkov stated bluntly and falsely that "there is no Ukraine."​

 

[kage69]

I’d include the AGM-158.

Seconded.

I saw USAF just did a live Rapid Dragon test the other week off the Norwegian coast. Let's also give them a couple pallets of LRASM and watch the Russian Black Sea fleet disappear in a few hours.

 

[Young Grasshopper]

This is the typical propaganda talking point. Take isolated cases, and present it as the majority.

Are there neo-Nazis in Ukraine? Yes. Is Ukraine controlled by neo-Nazis and motivated by neo-nazi ideology? Obviously not when 74 fucking % of the population voted for a fucking Jewish man as their president.

Yes, the Nazi thing IS a hoax, as presented. Ukraine is no more a Nazi country than the US. I dare say the US has far more neo-Nazis than the Ukraine. And our own Putin wannabe puppet president characterized them as "very fine people" after they marched through the streets chanting "Jews will not replace us."

Is the US "Nazified" and our self defense motivated by Nazi ideology?

Russia has a mercenary group led by a man covered in Nazi tattoos who is a personal friend of your totalitarian, Hitler style dictator. Is Russia motivated by Nazi ideology?


The projection is sad, pathetic, and very obvious.

What does 74% of the country voting for Zelensky have anything to do with who actually runs the country? You really think Zelensky runs Ukraine? Where would Zelensky be without the help of NATO? Probably in a Russian prison. NATO runs Ukraine, and has run Ukraine for several years now, and that is at the heart of this whole conflict.

Secondly our 'defense' of Ukraine has nothing to do with Nazism, and has more to do with protecting US hegemony. The goal isn't to protect Ukraine, but to weaken Russia. That, and wash our tax money thru Ukraine and back into the transnational security elite. No different then why we spent 20 years in Afghanistan.

Here is a good article that explains everything:

Siding with Ukraine's far-right, US sabotaged Zelensky's mandate for peace

In 2019, Zelensky was elected on an overwhelming mandate to make peace with Russia. As Stephen F. Cohen warned that year, the US chose to side with Ukraine's far-right and fuel war.

mate.substack.com

 

[you2]

Unfortunately you are not presenting facts; you are presenting 'fake news'. Yes they did air that; yes they were kicked out but the reason is because they broadcast during a military blackout - why is there a blackout - to ensure the safety of military personal during active combat. Why is it dangerous to air things real time while they are still securing the city - because it provides geo information for missles, bombs and artillery. If they had waited till after the blackout per their agreement with the military there would not have been an issue (it is not what they showed but when);

Why are you spreading this fud because that is the sort of person you are.....

Still think the Nazi thing is a hoax? BTW CNN was kicked out of Kherson for airing that.


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[kage69]

The goal isn't to protect Ukraine, but to weaken Russia.

It's both; we very much want democracy in Ukraine but more importantly they want it. Are you at all familiar with the UN charter? Allowing Russia to cave in on itself helps protect the countries it normally threatens and bullies as a matter of normal Russian politics and imperialism. Not having genocidal mafia states always threatening war and employing terrorism is A Good Thing, for the world, you stupid bastard. These people act like victims while they commit war crimes, openly discuss using nuclear weapons and global starvation to get their imperialist way. And here you are defending them.

That, and wash our tax money thru Ukraine and back into the transnational security elite. No different then why we spent 20 years in Afghanistan.

You actually believe the elite of this country need Ukraine to do anything? Jesus. I'm starting to be impressed you can even manage a website login. Time to give up your trailer park Scientology man, or at least don't come in here and display what it does to people. Fuck you're dumb.

 

[IronWing]

I see that Putin and Pooh are posting again.

 

[Perknose]

Here is a good article that explains everything:

Siding with Ukraine's far-right, US sabotaged Zelensky's mandate for peace

In 2019, Zelensky was elected on an overwhelming mandate to make peace with Russia. As Stephen F. Cohen warned that year, the US chose to side with Ukraine's far-right and fuel war.

mate.substack.com

Ahhh, an article by Aaron Mate. Had to look him up:

Maté works as reporter for The Grayzone, a fringe[5] far-left[6] news website and blog known for sympathetic coverage of the Russian and Syrian governments[7][8] and denial of the Uyghur genocide.[9][10]

Maté said use of social media by Russia had no effect on the [2016]election [...] In May 2017, Bob Cesca wrote on the Salon website: "Both Maté and [Zack] Beauchamp go to great lengths to characterize speculation about the Trump-Russia connection, which I would describe as small-C conspiracy theories, as being on a similar level as Alex Jones' loony big-C conspiracy mongering."[34]

In May 2021, he accompanied Paul Larudee and other members of the Syria Solidarity Movement to observe the 2021 Syrian presidential election.[40] Bellingcat wrote that the Syria Solidarity Movement supports the Syrian Social Nationalist Party (SSNP), which it described as "a rabidly anti-Semitic, fascist organization that advocates for a "Greater Syria," incorporating Lebanon and Palestine".[13]

In June 2022, the Institute for Strategic Dialogue published an analysis of social media accounts, individuals, outlets and organisations who disseminated disinformation about the Syrian conflict. Maté was named as the most prolific spreader of disinformation about the Syrian conflict since 2020 among the 28 conspiracy theorists analysed.[42]

 

[Drach]

Please kick this asshole square in the nuts.

 

[Perknose]

Please kick this asshole square in the nuts.

You're assuming he has any.

 

[K1052]

Seconded.

I saw USAF just did a live Rapid Dragon test the other week off the Norwegian coast. Let's also give them a couple pallets of LRASM and watch the Russian Black Sea fleet disappear in a few hours.

Russia accidentally creating a whole lot of customers for difficult to intercept GPS guided standoff range armaments.

 

[fskimospy]

What does 74% of the country voting for Zelensky have anything to do with who actually runs the country? You really think Zelensky runs Ukraine? Where would Zelensky be without the help of NATO? Probably in a Russian prison. NATO runs Ukraine, and has run Ukraine for several years now, and that is at the heart of this whole conflict.

Secondly our 'defense' of Ukraine has nothing to do with Nazism, and has more to do with protecting US hegemony. The goal isn't to protect Ukraine, but to weaken Russia. That, and wash our tax money thru Ukraine and back into the transnational security elite. No different then why we spent 20 years in Afghanistan.

Here is a good article that explains everything:

Siding with Ukraine's far-right, US sabotaged Zelensky's mandate for peace

In 2019, Zelensky was elected on an overwhelming mandate to make peace with Russia. As Stephen F. Cohen warned that year, the US chose to side with Ukraine's far-right and fuel war.

mate.substack.com

For some fun context as to who the tankie is citing here this is the same clown that said threats that Russia would invade Ukraine were part of a western propaganda effort. He also declared Russia didn’t sign the Minsk accords, which is a shocking level of ignorance and incompetence for someone claiming to be an authority on Ukraine.

If you’re bored you can see Mate’s nonsense be systematically trashed here, sources provided.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1589796593003540481

 

[eikelbijter]

Here we go again with the brain dead claim that Ukraine is controlled and motivated by Nazis. Ukraine, a country that overwhelmingly voted in an openly JEWISH president with 74% of the vote.

This Nazi shit is Russian projection. Their own fucking mercenary group is named after Hitler's favorite composer.

Just stop. You can't seem to do more than regurgitate cheap Russian propaganda that only idiots would believe,

It blows my mind how easily people fall for that BS. As a musician I've spent quite a few weeks touring through various parts of Ukraine before the war. From Lviv to Kharkov, from Odessa to Mykolaiv, we covered most of the country up to about 100km from the eastern separatist fronts. I can ASSURE you that most Ukranians are NOT Nazis, not even close. On one of the tours we were accompanied by a local orchestra and they were some of the most amazing folks I've ever met, loving, caring honest people. Their sense of team spirit was something the typical American can't even dream of.

Now I'm sure there were and maybe even are some that wouldn't mind being part of Russia, but even in Russian speaking cities like Kharkov, the spirit was overwhelmingly Ukrainian. It is a HUGE mistake to assume where a people's loyalty lies just based on the language it speaks.

 

[eikelbijter]

Still think the Nazi thing is a hoax? BTW CNN was kicked out of Kherson for airing that.


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Have seen you the American Nazis? Should the US be invaded by Germany?

You're grasping here; of course there are SOME Nazis there, those fuckers are EVERYWHERE.

 

[Jaskalas]

It blows my mind how easily people fall for that BS.

You're grasping here;

Grasping, or peddling?
The difference being whether the source has an ID aligned with our enemy. And a fervent desire to believe in whatever sounds good for that ID. With a mission to spread the FUD far and wide. To convert people to their cause.

What we encounter are missionaries for the other tribe. For Russia's imperial and genocidal ambitions. We have met the enemy.