Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

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K1052

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That corner of sea has drawn the very close attention of an Italian G550 AEW and the Global Hawk drone we have over the Black Sea. Something seems up.
 
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Muse

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I would have thought Ukraine would leave a way out for the Russians that have made Crimea a home since 2014. I believe something 500k Russians have moved there since.

Could they still be making them?
Shortly after the sinking of the Moskva Russia targeted the factory where the Neptunes were made. But the story I heard was that Ukraine must have figured that that was coming after they used their Neptunes and likely had moved the manufacturing facilities elsewhere so they could continue production, i.e. before the Moskva attack.
 

JTsyo

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Does the Switchblade attack anything in its target list if seen or does it need an opertor to confirm a valid target?
 

kage69

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Does the Switchblade attack anything in its target list if seen or does it need an opertor to confirm a valid target?

They can be set to do both. When used as manually controlled recon and not flying a pre defined route an operator would need to locate/confirm a target. Set to engage autonomously, a solo Switchblade would select the highest value target from it's Approved List. If it's a swarm they communicate to divvy up the targets, making sure there are no double hits (unless the operator requests it).
 
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kage69

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Seems the Moskva wasn’t in much better shape than Russia’s garbage aircraft carrier.



That would go along with the readiness we've seen with their other Soviet designs. The carrier was definitely worse off though, it hasn't been able to go anywhere without tug escort for more than a decade.

Looks like Ukraine may have bagged another Russian ship, this time a modern frigate. Neptune is no joke, especially when you've got American eyes and ears assisting.
 

Roger Wilco

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That would go along with the readiness we've seen with their other Soviet designs. The carrier was definitely worse off though, it hasn't been able to go anywhere without tug escort for more than a decade.

Looks like Ukraine may have bagged another Russian ship, this time a modern frigate. Neptune is no joke, especially when you've got American eyes and ears assisting.

This is actually talking about the readiness of the Moskva.

Still no concrete evidence showing that Makarov was hit.
 

kage69

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This is actually talking about the readiness of the Moskva.

Still no concrete evidence showing that Makarov was hit.

Yes, I was commenting on both the state of vintage Soviet hardware and noting the current designs might not be fairing much better. Ukraine is enjoying a position of credibility in this war, I don't think we'll be seeing them forfeit it anytime soon as it's too much of a PR victory against Russia's feckless propaganda and responses. I expect the Makarov attack was legit.
 
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Lend-lease being signed into law by Biden symbolically on May 9 Russia celebration of "Victory Day".

In theory gives Biden the authority to "lend" basically any US weapon, short of a nuke, to Ukraine, without complicated bureaucracy previously required. In reality, not a lot likely changing, as the bureaucracy had been extremely streamlined in providing support already, and Biden/executive branch have been the gating factor on deciding what weapons Ukraine gets (i.e., no planes, no tanks, no HIMARS, no M270), more so than congress.
 

kage69

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Lots of rescue boats and aircraft around Snake Island all of a sudden. Ukraine says the Makarov is burning.

I doubt the place would be so popular if the Makarov was talking back to Fleet and giving a thumbs up.
 
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kage69

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Lend-lease being signed into law by Biden symbolically on May 9 Russia celebration of "Victory Day".

In theory gives Biden the authority to "lend" basically any US weapon, short of a nuke, to Ukraine, without complicated bureaucracy previously required. In reality, not a lot likely changing, as the bureaucracy had been extremely streamlined in providing support already, and Biden/executive branch have been the gating factor on deciding what weapons Ukraine gets (i.e., no planes, no tanks, no HIMARS, no M270), more so than congress.


The May 9th touch pleases me. The current level of support is admirable, but I'm all for giving it more gas. C-RAM systems for instance, maybe some Patriot batteries here and there. Russians know they wouldn't have survived WWII without 'the arsenal of democracy' helping them. I think it being official that they now have it working against them will be another morale hit for these war criminals.
 
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Jaskalas

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In theory gives Biden the authority to "lend" basically any US weapon, short of a nuke, to Ukraine, without complicated bureaucracy previously required. In reality, not a lot likely changing, as the bureaucracy had been extremely streamlined in providing support already, and Biden/executive branch have been the gating factor on deciding what weapons Ukraine gets (i.e., no planes, no tanks, no HIMARS, no M270), more so than congress.

That may prove extremely valuable next year, or later this year, after Fox's pro-Russia propaganda convinces enough of the voting base that we need to invade Ukraine for WMDs, and for dirt on Joe Biden. Or whatever insanity they make up. Point being, if it is in Russia's interests.... Fox will push it, voters will believe it, and sooner or later Republican creatures in Congress will obey it.

It won't be many more months before Biden needs to skip Congress to support Europe against invasion.
 
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