Russia on brink of ... NOPE! Russia INVADES Ukraine!

[DZero]

I wish we still had a real leader.

Good to see Merz came through and won in Germany, as many of us were hoping/expecting. That's a big FUCK YOU to fascist assholes like Leon, Trump and Putin. See ya Scholz!

Well... not only Merz, but ALL the rest of politicians except the AfD will ally to make Russia the treat is supposed to be.

Putin see that the Democratic way is no longer useful, will pull something to ruin Europe from inside.

 

[trenchfoot]

Well... not only Merz, but ALL the rest of politicians except the AfD will ally to make Russia the treat is supposed to be.

Putin see that the Democratic way is no longer useful, will pull something to ruin Europe from inside.

Putin recognizes how having the democracies of the world becoming dictatorships is so much easier to deal with when all he has to deal with is one person like himself and dangerously so, like he has with Trump. Putin doesn't have to deal with the people of the nations he wants to influence, nor does he have to deal with the legislative bodies that democracies have enshrined into their laws of their lands. Especially so, he doesn't have to deal as much with the oligarch class of America as their interests are already taken care of by Trump himself.

All he needed was to take control of one single impressionable idiotic moron that leads the most powerful nation on earth. And the voters of America gladly obliged him and agreed with him that Trump the Chump was the guy that precisely fit those requirements. And to no one's surprise, Trump is doing such an amazing job of being Putin's flunky, his pet piranha, with not a single word of concern or dissension coming from the folks who put him exactly where Putin wanted him. The folks who voted for Trump have aided and abetted Putin's victory over America and they all act as if it's no big deal, it's what's best for America, nothing to worry about, it ain't their fault because the Democrats made them do it. Fuuuuuck.

 

[IronWing]

Is the German Christian Democratic Union to the left or right of the American Democratic Party?

 

[zinfamous]

Already said

 

[zinfamous]

Well the crappy Democrat candidates (Biden and Harris) did their (large) part also. Biden was loosing it and Harris couldn't string together a complete sentence. Many people were left feeling they had no choice. I know you will deny it but those are the facts.

what the everloving holy fuck are you talking about here? What did you come up with this nonsense? the diseased rectum of greenman that shits out nonsense crap like that on our forums? Is that where you heard that?

what the fuck would you even know about a complete sentence, you illiterate fuck?

Showus a single time when this happened. Show us Trump ever speaking in English and using big boy words. Why do you accept how utterly groomed your brain has been by decades of republican pedophiles, you fucking idiot?

 

[zinfamous]

I don't take orders from racist.

You voted for Trump 3 times, so of course you do.

Also, you're racist as fuck so this is a very strange thing for you to say.

 

[Jaskalas]

Oh look, Trump shitting on any European who is not bowing to Russia.
Something tells me the new German government will take notice of the United States being an enemy of European Democracy.

Trump Snubs Polish President Duda, à la Putin​

Trump humiliated Poland, showing up 90 minutes late for a meeting with its president and only giving Andrzej Duda an 11-minute “audience” rather than the scheduled hour.​

Germany: Europe Must Reach Defence 'Independence' Of US

https://twitter.com/x/status/1893776652523520340

 

[RnR_au]

More comments from Europe...

President of the Czech Republic;


Prime Minister of Poland;

 

[Paratus]

Well the crappy Democrat candidates (Biden and Harris) did their (large) part also. Biden was loosing it and Harris couldn't string together a complete sentence. Many people were left feeling they had no choice. I know you will deny it but those are the facts.

I saw Harris in person. She was perfectly cogent. I saw Trump during the debates. The bulk of his speech was non-sequiturs, half formed thoughts, simplistic summary’s of complex topics, or outright fabrications.

If you actually evaluated them on merit you know this.

 

[trenchfoot]

I saw Harris in person. She was perfectly cogent. I saw Trump during the debates. The bulk of his speech was non-sequiturs, half formed thoughts, simplistic summary’s of complex topics, or outright fabrications.

If you actually evaluated them on merit you know this.

I am a firm believer of the notion that facts speak for themselves. However as you well know, in America a preponderance of facts can be so easily overcome by an avalanche of persistent lies, disinformation, empty promises, dog whistling, unsupported specious accusations and wild conspiracies that in concert tickles the imaginations of the unwary and beguiles them into a state of hate, fear and suspicion of their fellow Americans.

That the Republican party was compelled to exploit this method to win elections says everything anyone needs to know about how it is purpose built to serve the needs of the few at the expense of the many. The select few have even managed to convince the bulk of the religious right to be politically prejudicial, racist and supremacist, to cast stones from their glass houses of worship, that their saviors are the very corrupters of our gov't. God bless their bigoted hearts.

 

[K1052]

Oh look, Trump shitting on any European who is not bowing to Russia.
Something tells me the new German government will take notice of the United States being an enemy of European Democracy.

Trump Snubs Polish President Duda, à la Putin​

Trump humiliated Poland, showing up 90 minutes late for a meeting with its president and only giving Andrzej Duda an 11-minute “audience” rather than the scheduled hour.​

A funny outcome the Russians would really super not like could easily be a nuclear armed Poland. The sword of the multipolar world they want cuts both ways which they have clearly failed to consider at all.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

A funny outcome the Russians would really super not like could easily be a nuclear armed Poland. The sword of the multipolar world they want cuts both ways which they have clearly failed to consider at all.

I think sometimes people forget that the US was one of the main drivers of nuclear nonproliferation. Gonna be a fun ride in 10 years when a bunch of new nuclear powers pop up because the US has become more insular.

 

[Brovane]

This editorial in the WSJ today has really set off the Russian supporters in the comment sections.

A Brief History of Broken Russian Promises to Ukraine

 

[feralkid]

I think sometimes people forget that the US was one of the main drivers of nuclear nonproliferation. Gonna be a fun ride in 10 years when a bunch of new nuclear powers pop up because the US has become more insular.

All the more reasons Trumpism must go...yesterday if not sooner.

 

[K1052]

This editorial in the WSJ today has really set off the Russian supporters in the comment sections.

A Brief History of Broken Russian Promises to Ukraine

I've heard a lot of people echoing Trump bemoaning the loss of life but leaving out who is really responsible for that (Putin). Same thing going down in some of those comments.

If you told conservatives forty years ago that we can utterly destroy the Russian military for like 5% of the current annual defense budget they would scream at you for not doing it because its the deal of the millennium.

 

[misuspita]

I think sometimes people forget that the US was one of the main drivers of nuclear nonproliferation. Gonna be a fun ride in 10 years when a bunch of new nuclear powers pop up because the US has become more insular.

10? I guess it would be funny if in summer after the NATO meeting a new ETO will be announced and in a few short years USA will remove all military presence from Europe and european nuclear deterrent rockets are gonna be installed in Poland, Baltic states and Romania. Until they get their own. Fun stuff....

I guess in the end Trump was a 5D chess player. Managed to unite the most lazy and incompetent managers parcel of leaders in Europe to realise they have a greater financial power than US and so they can, if they really find the political will to make that happen

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

10? I guess it would be funny if in summer after the NATO meeting a new ETO will be announced and in a few short years USA will remove all military presence from Europe and european nuclear deterrent rockets are gonna be installed in Poland, Baltic states and Romania. Until they get their own. Fun stuff....

I guess in the end Trump was a 5D chess player. Managed to unite the most lazy and incompetent managers parcel of leaders in Europe to realise they have a greater financial power than US and so they can, if they really find the political will to make that happen

Broken clock falls off wall; kills hitler.

 

[K1052]

TFW Lithuania tests their nuclear deterrent.

 

[Greenman]

-Yep, time for the Euro's to fire up a parallel mutual defense agreement that cuts out the US, post haste.

Once it finds its legs, start the depreciation of NATO as a functional entity or alliance.

I don't think that will work. The U.S. is far and away the largest contributor to NATO, and spends twelve times more on defense than the second largest NATO contributor. I wouldn't have any issue with Europe being completely responsible for their own defense, but I don't believe they'd be willing to pick up the tab.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I don't think that will work. The U.S. is far and away the largest contributor to NATO, and spends twelve times more on defense than the second largest NATO contributor. I wouldn't have any issue with Europe being completely responsible for their own defense, but I don't believe they'd be willing to pick up the tab.

- I don't think they're going to have a choice.

 

[K1052]

I don't think that will work. The U.S. is far and away the largest contributor to NATO, and spends twelve times more on defense than the second largest NATO contributor. I wouldn't have any issue with Europe being completely responsible for their own defense, but I don't believe they'd be willing to pick up the tab.

They don't need to spend anywhere close what we do to replace our Euro commitments. What's like Bulgaria going to do with a CVN or Spain with B-21s?

Such a shift would also almost entirely eliminate US influence in Europe which Trump seems to think he can keep while pulling back militarily and threatening a trade war. Doesn't work that way.

 

[fskimospy]

I don't think that will work. The U.S. is far and away the largest contributor to NATO, and spends twelve times more on defense than the second largest NATO contributor. I wouldn't have any issue with Europe being completely responsible for their own defense, but I don't believe they'd be willing to pick up the tab.

Europe wouldn't need to spend nearly as much as that in order to achieve basically the same thing. The primary reason the US military is so expensive is that we designed a system where we can deploy, fight, and win anywhere on Earth on short notice. Command of the commons costs shitloads of money. If Europe is just looking to build a regional defense force they could do it for a lot less.

Regardless as US guarantees are no longer reliable Europe has no choice. Nobody is stupid enough to believe a word the US says anymore.

 

[mikeymikec]

I wonder how far the UK is along the roadmap of having the US renew their nuclear deterrent.

#morecompromisedshit

 

[outriding]

I don't take orders from racist.

I asked the same exact question. And you also blew me off.

So am I a racists also?

 

[repoman0]

The US completely trashing its influence throughout the world inside of a month is certainly something to see. I wonder if being a failing rogue universally hated superpower is good for the economy?