Running Everyday?

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


These are the shoes that I run in. I overpronate when I run, I didn't just randomly choose these shoes. I have had them for about a year now, but only in limited use (Out with injury).

-Kevin

Bout a year? How many miles have you put on them, give or take? Runner's World recommends replacing your running shoes every 350 to 550 miles. You may be due for a replacement pretty soon.

Edit- Also, you can lose fat and build muscle at the same time. You likely won't lose any weight though. You burn off the fat during exercise, which damages the muscles. Your body uses the food you intake to repair damaged muscles and fill in the holes the workout made. You won't lose weight unless you burn more calories than you intake, but you can burn fat while building muscle.

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Randum
I was a swimmer my whole life, tried running everyday, and I heard its not good to run EVERYday but maybe every other?

Bah, the human body is a highly evolved running machine. Humans are better endurance runners than most other animals on the planet.

Running every day does put some wear on your knees, but proper shoes and running on dirt trails or rubberized tracks minimize that.

You could substitute a day or two of running with a bike ride, but you'd have to bike a lot longer to burn the same amount of fat/calories. Swimming is good to do as well, and will build upper body strength, but you need access to a pool or body of water, which can be costly.

YMCAs aren't costly.

 

[Bateluer]

Originally posted by: Pepsi90919

YMCAs aren't costly.

YMCAs are fairly cheap, true. But would you rather pay monthly fees, or simply pay for a new pair of running shoes every 8 months?

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


These are the shoes that I run in. I overpronate when I run, I didn't just randomly choose these shoes. I have had them for about a year now, but only in limited use (Out with injury).

-Kevin

Bout a year? How many miles have you put on them, give or take? Runner's World recommends replacing your running shoes every 350 to 550 miles. You may be due for a replacement pretty soon.

Edit- Also, you can lose fat and build muscle at the same time. You likely won't lose any weight though. You burn off the fat during exercise, which damages the muscles. Your body uses the food you intake to repair damaged muscles and fill in the holes the workout made. You won't lose weight unless you burn more calories than you intake, but you can burn fat while building muscle.

I haven't ran that much. I only ran for about a quarter of the season last year. After that I didn't run as much as I should have (Well my shin splints kept coming back). The treads have minimal wear IMO. I think I should be good for at least 2 months (Perhaps a Christmas present )

As for the YMCA, Im at college, we have our own gyms that I can use for free (Well unless you count tuition)

Im not concerned with losing weight, im not the least bit overweight. Im 5'8" 150lbs, most of it is muscle. I wrestled in High School in Freshman year (Wasn't nearly as fit then) and even then I measured something like 7-8% body fat.

-Kevin

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


These are the shoes that I run in. I overpronate when I run, I didn't just randomly choose these shoes. I have had them for about a year now, but only in limited use (Out with injury).

-Kevin

Bout a year? How many miles have you put on them, give or take? Runner's World recommends replacing your running shoes every 350 to 550 miles. You may be due for a replacement pretty soon.

Edit- Also, you can lose fat and build muscle at the same time. You likely won't lose any weight though. You burn off the fat during exercise, which damages the muscles. Your body uses the food you intake to repair damaged muscles and fill in the holes the workout made. You won't lose weight unless you burn more calories than you intake, but you can burn fat while building muscle.

yes, you CAN, but this guy doesn't really know much about nutrition and building mass (from this thread it seems that way) and he will have much better results going in cycles rather than trying to do both at the same time.

trying to lose fat/build muscle at the same time is much less efficient than doing one then the other.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: purbeast0

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek


These are the shoes that I run in. I overpronate when I run, I didn't just randomly choose these shoes. I have had them for about a year now, but only in limited use (Out with injury).

-Kevin

Bout a year? How many miles have you put on them, give or take? Runner's World recommends replacing your running shoes every 350 to 550 miles. You may be due for a replacement pretty soon.

Edit- Also, you can lose fat and build muscle at the same time. You likely won't lose any weight though. You burn off the fat during exercise, which damages the muscles. Your body uses the food you intake to repair damaged muscles and fill in the holes the workout made. You won't lose weight unless you burn more calories than you intake, but you can burn fat while building muscle.

yes, you CAN, but this guy doesn't really know much about nutrition and building mass (from this thread it seems that way) and he will have much better results going in cycles rather than trying to do both at the same time.

trying to lose fat/build muscle at the same time is much less efficient than doing one then the other.

Woah woah, I NEVER mentioned anything about losing weight!! What in this thread has lead you to believe that I dont know much. I said I know enough to get by, but I certainly haven't said anything questionable yet.

Once again, I'm not fat or overweight; I have no desire to focus on losing weight!

-Kevin

 

[Vegitto]

Basically, if you ever want to run again sometime in your fifties, running every day now is not such a good idea.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Basically, if you ever want to run again sometime in your fifties, running every day now is not such a good idea.

Well I need to train if I am going to make the team. Their 2 Mile runners I'm sure are hovering around 10-11 mins!

-Kevin

Edit: Just know that Im going to be wearing proper shoes, Im going to start running on a path/track as opposed to concrete.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm just glad you now get to protect this house.

Ummm what do you mean?

he lives vicariously through others like you perhaps?

this has been edited.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Well I just got back from a run tonight. I was worn out this morning and just couldn't get up early enough (My day off from running and lifting was Sunday). So I swore to myself that I would run SOMETIME today. And I did

So far, I keep getting candy from home for halloween and the line for the sandwhiches is always long, so I haven't been adhering to my diet like I wanted. Aside from the candy, I normally have a few peanut butter crackers for lunch (Typically for the protein as I typically run before that) and for dinner I normally have a Salad with a side order of breadsticks.

So while I haven't noticed myself toning as far as abs, I have definitely noticed it in my calves (Less so in my Quads and Hamstrings), and it is noticeable at sight. Not only that my short run is getting a lot easier (I'm regaining track form I guess) so Ill have to monitor that.

I put the candy in a very inconvenient spot as a deterrent so hopefully I will start following my diet (Not for losing weight, I don't have much to lose) and getting notice some toning in my abs and bi/triceps.

-Kevin

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

OMGWTFSERIOUS? where are you from that 1230 is a competative hs time?

i like to run every other day for 5+ miles since i retired from track. cross trraining of any kind will help with pains.

eat candy immediately after a run, and it isnt really bad for you. fast carbs help you recover more glycogen, but a steady diet of complex carbs and protein throughout the day is a must

 

[Gamingphreek]

Last year was my first year of track. I dropped my time from ~15mins to 12:30. I think 11:30 or something was qualifying time for states, so I would have made regions. HOwever remember that was only about 1/4 of the way through the season. Im confident I could have made it.

The pain of the muscles breaking down isn't bad. In fact I like having it there because it tells me something is working correctly. As for the candy, well I dont want a bunch of cards. I still want to build muscle (Protein) Im just aiming for tone more at this pint.

This is my order of most importance:
1. Muscle Tone/ Speed (I have the endurance, but my muscle fibers are too slow for my event)
2. Muscle Mass
3. Lose any weight that might get lost as a result of the above 2

Do you guys think that me (Remember I'm a College Freshman so this will be very very hard) getting up extra early and eating breakfast will make a difference. (I have already increased my intake of fluids (used to barely ever drink water, now I usually try for 6-8 bottles of water a day))

-Kevin

 

[Ronstang]

You have bad joints and you are running? Boy are you going to hate yourself in 20 years.

 

[abaez]

Its weird how everyone says to change your shoes every 500 miles or wahtever. I have had the same new balances for about 5 years now they are just like molded to my feet now and they are just the best. My knees don't hurt, joints nothing hurts after I run (I run 3 miles maybe 4 times a week at night). I don't think I'll ever trade these things they are awesome.

 

[quentinterintino]

Your school doesn't have a gym?

 

[wtfbbq]

if you plan on trying to become competitive in distance running for your college, i'd definitely up the mileage a lot. 13 miles per week is a very small amount of mileage. also, what state were you from that 11:30 was qualifying? just curious (i'm in cross country / track for HS still)

 

[iwantanewcomputer]

wow...in ohio you need about 9:40 in the 3200 to qualify to regionals in most regions, 9:30 for state. I ran at a D3 college, and would run >60 miles a week. The good people on the team could run a 3200 in under 9:00. If you want speed and muscle, distance is not going to get you much farther. run short interval(ie, 4-10 reps of 400 meters as fast as you can run a consistant time on each, or hill repeats. you should def work your way up in distance before starting that though, to where you can run run 5 miles at a hard pace.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
You have bad joints and you are running? Boy are you going to hate yourself in 20 years.

Weak joints is a strong word. I have had joint problems, but I went to an orthopedist. He said slowly get back into running (I was on crutches a month or so ago) and so i started with like very short mile a day. But now I have managed to work back up to this. Also I am taking Glucosomine tablets to help strengthen joints.

As for a gym, well I'm in college. There are multiple gym's, one has an indoor track. But running around the track 8 times at high speed isn't really fun.

I'm from Virginia. As for 930 for qualifying times...are you sure about that. Do you have a link, that is ~4:45 a mile, which is pretty fast for high school.

-Kevin

 

[ShockwaveVT]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Originally posted by: Vegitto
Basically, if you ever want to run again sometime in your fifties, running every day now is not such a good idea.

Well I need to train if I am going to make the team. Their 2 Mile runners I'm sure are hovering around 10-11 mins!

-Kevin

Edit: Just know that Im going to be wearing proper shoes, Im going to start running on a path/track as opposed to concrete.

I think you are underestimating how fast college runners are. A good 2-mile time for a college runner is more like 9 minutes, not 10:30. If you can't run a mile/1600 in less than 5min you have a LONG way to go.

If you are serious about joining the track team go speak with the coaches *now* and find out how far you really have to go to have a realistic shot at making the team. Just a warning though, since you don't have a H.S. record to back you up (district/regional/state wins) they will probably brush you off. If you're tempted to challenge them with "come out to the track and time me" you better be ready to put up a competitive performance, which means knowing months ahead of time what you need to train for.

here's the NCAA championship results from this past June:
http://www.flashresults.com/2006_Meets/outdoor/ncaa1/

Virginia Tech Track & Field 2006 results:
http://hokiesports.com/track/stats/

 

[Adn4n]

Why exactly are you trying to buff up exactly? If it's to impress that "other" person, then your personality needs some workout.

 

[eakers]

this is a bit O/T but if you want to map out your runs and see how far you are running, check out this website

http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/

Its a great tool.

 

[Gamingphreek]

Originally posted by: Adn4n
Why exactly are you trying to buff up exactly? If it's to impress that "other" person, then your personality needs some workout.

No my personality is fine. Just she is talking with someone now (Not dating) and she isn't happy nor does she trust him. Having good muscle tone always helps, my personality is fine, trust me.

But like i said earlier it isn't all about that. I've been saying I am going to run for a long time, and now in college I finally have the opportunity. I feel better during the day, and it gives me another reason to get up at like 9 or so (on most days).

Hmm looks like I did overestimate a little there lol. Because i know full well that is near the times for the state meet last year.

Well seeing as my twitch muscle is so slow, would it be beneficial for me to look for an even longer event. My coach said that I am extremely strong, and have great endurance, but my twitch muscle fibers are just really really slow. He even considered training me with the sprinters.

We have a 6.3 mile trail here which leads into Christiansburg. So it is 12.4 miles round trip. I, for no apparent reasoon, just want to do 2 laps at no particular speed one day to see how hard it is (Even if I dont finish). My distance has just never been tested, my speed has but I think I can run for far longer than I have been. Sometime soon I might attempt the one way and try it...JUST TO SEE.

eakers...that is awesome. I was really wondering how much I was running on a typical day.

Thanks guys,
-Kevin

 

[Gamingphreek]

Wow that tool is awesome. So it turns out I have been doing about 2.54 miles on a normal day, and 3.52 miles on a Long Day. I'm going to mix it up a bit and see if I can get it to like 5 miles on a long day.

-Kevin

 

[python023]

Originally posted by: Bateluer

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

Now is it a bad idea for me to work out quads, hamstrings, and calves in addition to my running?

Is there anyway I can work out pecs with just a dumbell in my room, it is significantly easier doing it that way as opposed to walking over to the gym. But if the gym is the best place to get this done, then Ill do it.

-Kevin

You could work out the various muscles in your legs through weightlifting exercises, but you wouldn't be giving your body enough time to repair the muscles before ran/lifted again and damaged them. Better to run, IMO, it strengthens most muscles in the legs while toning them and burning fat.

If you have two dumbells and some sort of bench, you can do a benchpress with the two dumbells. Its actually preferable to benchpress with two dumbells so that your weaker side isn't being compensated by the stronger side. If you bench has an adjustable height, you could also do incline/decline chest presses, which work the lower and upper chest muscles.

Pushups are a decent poor man's solution as well, but they're more targetted to a single area of the chest than the exercises you could do with a proper bench and weights. Although, you can move your arms around to more that target slightly. Keeping your elbows in close to your body during a pushup, for instance, using more tricep muscles than chest muscles.

There are only two muscles in the Chest - Pectoralis Minor and Major. Minor is under the major, therefore Incline/Flat/Decline presses do not work "upper and lower chest." A bench press works the pecs, front delts, and triceps. The angle of the bench determines to what degree the front delts and triceps are worked. Incline promotes front delts. Decline promotes triceps. As for the OP, Muscle Tone = Muscle Mass showing. Therefore strip the fat and increase the muscle mass and voila, you have greatly improved muscle tone. However, you cant do both at the same time. So look to gain mass first and then cut the fat before you head on your trip.
Keep up the running(maybe tone it down a bit or just eat more) and hit the weightroom.
Do not do abs every day. They are still muscles. While the body does tend to repair the abs first, you still only need to work them 2-3 times per week. If you are looking for a program, research Rippetoe's Starting Strength program.

 

[sash1]

Originally posted by: Gamingphreek

I'm from Virginia. As for 930 for qualifying times...are you sure about that. Do you have a link, that is ~4:45 a mile, which is pretty fast for high school.

-Kevin

Dude, you go to VTech. There is no way you are making the team. You're Div I! I couldn't even make the team at Wake Forest and I was one of the fastest runners in my state! Even in my best two events I couldn't even compete (800m and 5k).

800m - 2:02
5k - 15:58

In high school I dominated. Div I at Wake Forest? yeah right, I had no chance. If you're not running 9:45 or below, don't even bother and go straight to club/intramural sports. The only D-I school that offered me a full scholarship was UMO (UMaine - Orono), but I would have had to train a lot harder to try and get my times down. You need to be an elite runner to make it in Div I.