Castiel
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Notice that they say i7 950 on the right, yet on the left they say package 1156?
Bulldozer is just BULLSHIT till some real results are released.
Notice that they say i7 950 on the right, yet on the left they say package 1156?
1. All still estimated.
2. Still 8 core vs 4 core.
3. Price will be based on performance, so it will cost more than a 2600K.
4. No word on speeds yet.
Don't get me wrong, it is a huge step for AMD no question. But I do not think it is the "second coming" as some people tend to think.
i7-950 130W TDP
1100T 125W TDP
the comparison is with that 2 processors
i know SB is at 95W and the HD2000 waste ~15W at full load... SB 4x is also much smaller than the ~310 mm2 Bulldozer
Is this really true? Where have you seen this?
They are not half cores according to JF. They are 8 true cores.
And there is no way that an 8 core BD is @ 95W (which SB is at). Most likely 130W. So it can not be comparing at the same TDP. Now an i7 950 is at 130W, so that is more likely.
so bulldozer needs to be lga-1156 standard or its chipset is going to nail it's coffin.
amd needs to make pin compatible cpu's again.
so bulldozer needs to be lga-1156 standard or its chipset is going to nail it's coffin.
amd needs to make pin compatible cpu's again.
Pin compatibility is meaningless because the chipset will determine what you can plug into that socket.
The 3 tests are all very well threaded, so it shows the advantages of 8 cores in the best light. Still, the results are really good.
Overall: Probably there's few % to gain in multi-threading just because Thuban was a hackjob to get 6 cores without expanding at all on the cache subsystem. It'll also gain from having Turbo Core that can be active when all cores are active. Currently, Thubans don't have that ability.
Cinebench: From the score, the gains in pre-AVX FP performance is pretty good. I wouldn't be surprised if there's 20% or so gain from the FP on Cinebench.
Is this really true? Where have you seen this?
Why couldn't it be 95W? There are 95W client parts today.
There will be a 35W TDP 8-core server part and there will be a <95W TDP 16-core server part as well.
Notice that they say i7 950 on the right, yet on the left they say package 1156?
Exactly. That is why comparing the 2 is like comparing apples to oranges.
well... why compare a 95W CPU with two 125-130W cpus? btw... if that performances come from a 95W bulldozer you shoud change the name in "GODZiller" ^_^
4 core SBs are 220mm2 vs a 4 Module 8 Threads BD at 320mm2 ??
what about 4 core SBs vs 2 Module 4 Threads BD at 200-230mm2 ??
Notice that they say i7 950 on the right, yet on the left they say package 1156?
8 Cores going to be faster then 4 cores.. WOW who would have ever thought that? Not sure where they pulled that graph for gaming from since maybe 2 games take advantage of more then 4 cores. I want to see some Cinebench single threaded benchmarks.
So is BD going to be 4 cores and 4 half cores or 8 cores and 8 half cores or just 8 cores?
So is BD going to be 4 cores and 4 half cores or 8 cores and 8 half cores or just 8 cores?