Rumour: Bulldozer 50% Faster than Core i7 and Phenom II.

[bunnyfubbles]

I don't know if that's legit but if you look at the actual squares on the AMD side, the hexacore is still slower than the best i-5 and the 8-core slower than the i-7

do you realize that graphic is not about performance? It's entirely about price positioning, of which we can only infer performance.

 

[mosox]

I read it as a general performance chart not pricing one. They bothered to place the FX 8 core slightly lower than the i-7, does this mean the price? They have no idea how much the Intel CPUs will cost at the Bulldozer launch. Also on the right side it doesn't say "better performance", only "more cores". We'll see.

 

[Riek]

I read it as a general performance chart not pricing one. They bothered to place the FX 8 core slightly lower than the i-7, does this mean the price? They have no idea how much the Intel CPUs will cost at the Bulldozer launch. Also on the right side it doesn't say "better performance", only "more cores". We'll see.

Is that even an official slide? we have seen many slides like that passing by that were wrong. If you look at the description as advantages one has to seriously consider to throw that sheet in the trash.

 

[dma0991]

That chart is scaled according to current data but it should not be that far as it would be impossible to see SB to have a 50% drop in price overnight. Cores are threads and it doesn't really matter as an 8 core BD has 8 threads and so does the Core i7 2600K with 8 threads. As multi threading is not a replacement for a true physical core I can bet that the 8 core BD will be faster in a heavily threaded software that can utilize 8 threads/cores.

 

[Arkadrel]

@Dma0991

Problem is most games usually only use 4-6 threads currently.
There probably are a few that could make use of all 8 cores, but that ll probably be like a handfull.

Reguardless maybe haveing 8 cores/threads, means some of them could be used for the background stuff people have running while gameing, like anti virus ect, a open browser and such. This wont show up dureing benchmarks, because people that benchmark, arnt doing stuff in the background, so they can keep the compairsions and equal in situation as possible. But for real use, people might still benefit from it.

And at some point the majority of games will probably be coded to make use of 8 cores... just like today you expect codeing for atleast 4 cores/threads to be used while gameing, by producers of pc games.

 

[dma0991]

@Arkadrel

That is why I put 'software' in my statement instead of games because I do know that many games are not able to take advantage of 8 cores/threads currently. I was implying on some softwares that are not games.

 

[vas flam]

http://shiftdelete.net/amd-bulldoze...dengeleri-altina-ustune-getirdi_29353-s2.html

sanda, futuremark cpu, and crysis warhead bulldozer benchies.... ehhhhhhhhhh :hmm:

 

[996GT2]

http://shiftdelete.net/amd-bulldoze...dengeleri-altina-ustune-getirdi_29353-s2.html

sanda, futuremark cpu, and crysis warhead bulldozer benchies.... ehhhhhhhhhh :hmm:

Looks fake to me

 

[Mopetar]

Looks fake to me

Also old. I'm almost certain some of those graphs and charts have been posted before.

 

[podspi]

The inclusion of "Black Edition" parts makes me think it is fake, because isn't the entire FX-series going to be ... BE?

Also, on that graph the BE part has a slight performance boost. Not sure why that would be the case unless there is some secret sauce in there we haven't heard of, yet.

 

[(sic)Klown12]

The inclusion of "Black Edition" parts makes me think it is fake, because isn't the entire FX-series going to be ... BE?

Also, on that graph the BE part has a slight performance boost. Not sure why that would be the case unless there is some secret sauce in there we haven't heard of, yet.

AMD hasn't stated(that I know of) that all FX parts will be unlocked, but if they follow the FX's brand history it should be.

If not all FX parts are unlocked, than maybe the B.E.s have a more pronounced Turbo boost?

 

[aphelion02]

If that chart is true, the FX 4xxx series looks to be very popular, hitting nice price point for budget builds. If it can deliver i5 760 performance for around $140, it would be very competitive.

 

[formulav8]

Its stupid that AMD doesn't clean up alot of the trash out there. There is NO way them letting some of the cat out of the bag is going to give their "competiter" a leg up. Its just stupid that they are being so 'hush' over it all. I just hope its not because they don't have a 'killer' cpu. :thumbsdown:

 

[videoclone]

When you have poo in your hand, you never want to show anyone!

But when your playing poker and you have an ace in your hand you also never want to show anyone!

Its really hard to tell what analogy AMD is going with by hiding the performance, i "REALLY hope its the poker one because otherwise its going to be ......SH*T

 

[StinkyPinky]

Really weird that there's still no news on these cpus

Either they're total and utter crap or they are going to ruin Intels day.

Hopefully the latter. We need more competition

 

[Joseph F]

I don't think that they're going to be total crap or the destruction of Intel. I think that they'll be on-par or perhaps a bit slower than Intel's current offerings core-for-core. However, I think that they will be faster than SB in video encoding and other highly threaded programs.

 

[videoclone]

Joseph F ... if you qucikly look on this link here - http://www.news.com.au/ at the news story
Paid internet trolls back China's party line
You will see they used your face Avatar Image in the news story.
"Just incase its not there anymore i took a snapshot of it LOL
http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv68/vid_ghost/news.jpg

On another note... AMD BETTER give us the goods! They are losing the long time AMD supporters to Intel because of the lack of performance.

 

[Joseph F]

I suppose that had copied it from Wikipedia, where I had gotten it.
And I certainly hope that AMD can pull this one off and can truly compete with Intel in performance this time around. If not however, Then I may have to switch over to Intel also.

 

[HW2050Plus]

Looks fake to me

Again stuff from the Aprils fool 2010. It has been identified as fake since 2010 and it is not funny to repost this Bullshit again and again.

It's proven as fake.

 

[HW2050Plus]

This article blends known facts with older and partly obsolete speculation. My diagram was drawn before the first BD module slides were published by AMD. Particularly the speculated FPU contains the most errors. Also replay was a topic brought up by me because of BD-related patents describing such methods (at least one by Gary Lauterbach) - and then there is a difference between replay of exec ops and L/S ops.

As we have now lot's of official information from AMD I do not think we can find a lot in such articles. As you say it is likly more speculation because otherwise on which sources they rely on? I did not read the article BTW.

 

[Nemesis 1]

You know what I love about all this anti-BD crap posting that goes on here? It reminds me of exactly the same sort of fanboy denial that was going on when C2D was about to launch around this same time 5yrs ago in 2006. Only then the shoe was very much on the other foot back then (it was AMD fanboys who were in total denial).

I take it (the denial at the behest of the Intel fanboys) as proof positive that AMD probably does have a monster on their hands and they are about to conroe the market themselves.

Only another month or so to go!

IDC I am a little surprized that you would say such a thing . You know ding dang well that Intel showed C2D months ahead of time and the fanbois called Intel a liar. AMD has not shown anything . This is all AMD fanbois hyping amd the Intel guys saying Prove it .

 

[Dresdenboy]

As we have now lot's of official information from AMD I do not think we can find a lot in such articles. As you say it is likly more speculation because otherwise on which sources they rely on? I did not read the article BTW.

As you say there is a lot of information available. But some authors don't correctly separate facts from speculation. IIRC they also had a seemingly valid CPU-Z screenshot, but it seems to be gone (I only get a 1x1 pic now).

 

[nonameo]

As you say there is a lot of information available. But some authors don't correctly separate facts from speculation. IIRC they also had a seemingly valid CPU-Z screenshot, but it seems to be gone (I only get a 1x1 pic now).

a 1x1 pic? what color is it?

 

[Mopetar]

IDC I am a little surprized that you would say such a thing . You know ding dang well that Intel showed C2D months ahead of time and the fanbois called Intel a liar. AMD has not shown anything . This is all AMD fanbois hyping amd the Intel guys saying Prove it .

There aren't too many posters who have made wild claims that BD will be amazing. A few people have speculated why it might be good (just as some have speculated why it might be bad) and most people hope that it will be good, if for no other reason that to force Intel to be more competitive on price.

Besides, when AMD put out that Llano video, you and a bunch of others spent pages and pages complaining that the results were faked, biased, unfair, etc. Even if they did release some performance data for BD, fanboys would just find more ways to dismiss it. It wouldn't change anything around here and wouldn't benefit AMD in any way so I don't see much reason for them to release information, especially when the actual date isn't too much farther off.

 

[bryanW1995]

When you have poo in your hand, you never want to show anyone!

But when your playing poker and you have an ace in your hand you also never want to show anyone!

Its really hard to tell what analogy AMD is going with by hiding the performance, i "REALLY hope its the poker one because otherwise its going to be ......SH*T

Nobody thought that conroe would be the hit that it eventually became. Also, due to intel's current drastic underclocking, the less time that AMD gives intel to prepare the more likely intel will be to incorrectly compensate for BD, thus potentially at least giving AMD a temporary advantage in either pricing or price/performance. And their only realistic shot at the absolute performance crown is to have intel underestimate BD, if intel knows the real performance they'll be able to bring out a 4.5-5.0 + Ghz EE cpu that will crush it.