Rumored (now Denied). nVidia to Recall 600 series cards? (xbitlabs via pnosker.com)

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ShintaiDK

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This thread still running? Talk about beating a dead horse.

I love how a few of EVGAs SC cards turned into every single Kepler card.

Must be a slow news day.
 

Jaydip

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"Performance degradation over time" is a very difficult metric to gouge.Only NV is authorized to really speak on this matter.How can they claim this?I am a bit surprised really.
 

ensign_lee

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Agreed. I also run some compute stuff like blastincap so GTX670/680 isn't appealing for me. However, I still haven't pulled the trigger since I see 5 negative reviews for that Sapphire card on just 1 page. The Asus DCU cards also have a lot of negative reviews. The reference 7970s are $450+ and Accelero Extreme is > $60, which I don't think is fair since Gigabyte GTX670 is $400 for similar gaming performance. It's like AMD is charging $100 more for double precision compute (sneaky). I hope HD8000 series comes out Q1 2013. ;)

I had two of those sapphire cards. I loved them. No coil whine, and they were so quiet. Noticeably quieter than the gigabyte windforce versions that I have now. You should give them a shot.

My only gripe was that I could *only* overclock to 1050 and not 1100, but whatever. haha.
 

kami

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This thread still running?

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Kooling

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I believe that I have experienced such a problem with both the 8800 and 260 series cards, the effects of such a problem are definitely measurable but one could feel slightly nutty in this situation.
 

guskline

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You are paying for the HDMI cable lol.
True but it's a Very nice HDMI cable. Not cheap either. I wanted a GTX 680 2 weeks ago and was tired of waiting so I snagged a Pny GTX 680 and paid a premium ($579 less $30 MIR). Sure you can find one cheaper but it came, is installed and running like a champ. I sent the HDMI to my son-in-law who was going to spend $$$ to buy one to hook his I-PAD2 to his TV etc. The HDMI is a 16 foot PNY. Price those suckers!

Nice to have the lifetime warranty.

Bottom line? Paid a premium but own a solid GTX 680.

It runs fine and the rumor is just that, a rumor. With the incredible demand for the GTX 670/680 and the precipitous drop in AMD 7970 prices, it's hard not to believe that this wasn't started by a marketing skunkworks.
 
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digitaldurandal

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Just because nVidia says something doesn't make it false.

I hope you are joking.

Just because some random anonymous source that does not release their name, qualifications, or any citation says something doesn't make it true...

Credibility is important - you should examine it when you are considering rumors, research, or any "facts" on the internet. I wish everyone on facebook would learn this too.
 

guskline

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I hope you are joking.

Just because some random anonymous source that does not release their name, qualifications, or any citation says something doesn't make it true...

Credibility is important - you should examine it when you are considering rumors, research, or any "facts" on the internet. I wish everyone on facebook would learn this too.
Great post! Hit the nail on the head. Why doesn't the anonomous poster "man up" and disclose their identity?
 

Lonbjerg

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I hope you are joking.

Just because some random anonymous source that does not release their name, qualifications, or any citation says something doesn't make it true...

Credibility is important - you should examine it when you are considering rumors, research, or any "facts" on the internet. I wish everyone on facebook would learn this too.


QFT.
 

AnandThenMan

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Credibility is important -
When it comes to these types of issues, Nvidia has none. Need I remind people that bumpgate was never resolved by Nvidia, they replaced bad parts with bad parts that failed again in exactly the same way. Like I said, this may turn out to be nothing, but to trust anything Nvidia says on the subject is foolhardy.
 

Keysplayr

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When it comes to these types of issues, Nvidia has none. Need I remind people that bumpgate was never resolved by Nvidia, they replaced bad parts with bad parts that failed again in exactly the same way. Like I said, this may turn out to be nothing, but to trust anything Nvidia says on the subject is foolhardy.

"Subject" is the key word here and thanks for bringing it up.

Where did this claim originate from? From whom? With what proof?

And yet you sit here and call us "fools" to take Nvidia's word on a "subject" that has no merit to begin with. Do.. you.. see.. the.. irony..... AnandthenMan......?

/shatner
 
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Lonbjerg

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When it comes to these types of issues, Nvidia has none. Need I remind people that bumpgate was never resolved by Nvidia, they replaced bad parts with bad parts that failed again in exactly the same way. Like I said, this may turn out to be nothing, but to trust anything Nvidia says on the subject is foolhardy.


They have more than http://tech.pnosker.com :D

And you...if you keep pushing a dead, cause :cool:
 

KompuKare

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When it comes to these types of issues, Nvidia has none. Need I remind people that bumpgate was never resolved by Nvidia, they replaced bad parts with bad parts that failed again in exactly the same way. Like I said, this may turn out to be nothing, but to trust anything Nvidia says on the subject is foolhardy.

+1. Exactly, they have zero credibility in my eyes and that's not because of the issue but far more how they handled it (or didn't). And most of those customers never got proper redress - if they were luck they might have got a $300 laptop for their broken $1500 one.
 

cmdrdredd

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+1. Exactly, they have zero credibility in my eyes and that's not because of the issue but far more how they handled it (or didn't). And most of those customers never got proper redress - if they were luck they might have got a $300 laptop for their broken $1500 one.

Every company has failures. Everyone complaining about Toyota never got a new car out of the deal either.
 

AnandThenMan

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And yet you sit here and call us "fools" to take Nvidia's word on a "subject" that has no merit to begin with. Do.. you.. see.. the.. irony..... AnandthenMan......?

/shatner
Huh? o_O There is no irony here, just the cold hard facts, which are terribly inconvenient for you. Nvidia screwed up, which I accept it happens. But they never made right by their customers, generally when a company is told to replace defective products, they do so with a non defective replacement. That never happened. Now for someone that gets free hardware, I suppose these types of issues don't matter. But for those that got screwed out of thousand of dollars, it matters quite a lot. Nvidia has no credibility surrounding defective chips, that is the point, so when they say there is no problem, it means nothing. Zip.

As for Toyota, they went the extra mile and recalled millions of cars which cost them billions, not to mention the reputation hit they took. In the end no fault was ever found. How is that even remotely comparable to Nvidia is beyond me, if Toyota acted like Nvidia, they would have replaced defective ECU's or some other part with the exact same defective part!
 

cmdrdredd

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Huh? o_O There is no irony here, just the cold hard facts, which are terribly inconvenient for you. Nvidia screwed up, which I accept it happens. But they never made right by their customers, generally when a company is told to replace defective products, they do so with a non defective replacement. That never happened. Now for someone that gets free hardware, I suppose these types of issues don't matter. But for those that got screwed out of thousand of dollars, it matters quite a lot. Nvidia has no credibility surrounding defective chips, that is the point, so when they say there is no problem, it means nothing. Zip.

As for Toyota, they went the extra mile and recalled millions of cars which cost them billions, not to mention the reputation hit they took. In the end no fault was ever found. How is that even remotely comparable to Nvidia is beyond me, if Toyota acted like Nvidia, they would have replaced defective ECU's or some other part with the exact same defective part!

It's comparable because you're saying Nvidia owes you a new PC. I'm saying Toyota owes me a new Car. I never got a new car.

The way you are acting is ridiculous. By your flawed logic every company who says "no issue" is lying. That's just plain false.
 

ShintaiDK

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I wonder how many actually bothered to read the actual statement:

"EVGA has isolated this problem to an early batch of GTX 670 Superclock cards (P/N: 02G-P3-2672-KR) that were not properly screened during QA/QC procedure. We have already been working with our partners to retest this particular batch. In the meantime, our R&D has also done numerous tests, burn in and component quality verification to confirm that the EVGA GTX 670 Superclock is a well designed product."

"If any of your users are experiencing issues with their EVGA GTX 670 Superclock boards, please ask them to email Jacob Freeman [mailto link], and he will assist in getting them setup with an RMA cross shipment along with EVGA upgrading them to the GTX 670 FTW version (P/N: 02G-P3-2685-KR) for the inconvenience of this."

So its a few EVGA GTX 670 SC editions. And EVGA shows the good spirit and freely upgrade people thats affected to EVGA GTX 670 FTW.

Now where did all the conspiracy start? Maybe not that many adsclicks and rage in that?
 

cmdrdredd

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I wonder how many actually bothered to read the actual statement:



So its a few EVGA GTX 670 SC editions. And EVGA shows the good spirit and freely upgrade people thats affected to EVGA GTX 670 FTW.

Now where did all the conspiracy start?

From someone like AnandthenMan who has a beef with Nvidia and only buys AMD.
 

Lonbjerg

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I wonder how many actually bothered to read the actual statement:



So its a few EVGA GTX 670 SC editions. And EVGA shows the good spirit and freely upgrade people thats affected to EVGA GTX 670 FTW.

Now where did all the conspiracy start? Maybe not that many adsclicks and rage in that?

pwned by reality.
Now it will be fun to observe if some posters will conform to reality...or continue spinning lies ;)