[Rumor (Various)] AMD R7/9 3xx / Fiji / Fury

[soccerballtux]

They had it running "Liquid VR" months ago.

oh ok good

 

[Gikaseixas]

 

[goa604]

Thank you but it has been posted in this thread already on page 16. ^_^

 

[Gikaseixas]

Thank you but it has been posted in this thread already on page 16. ^_^

Oops
sorry guys

 

[bryanW1995]

If it runs at ~1050MHz with 6GBps vram it'll probably be a wash. Faster in some, slower in some. That'll probably be my card for the next few years if it's priced right. I'll couple it with a 1440P monitor and be happy.

Ha, just play CiV and D3 like me, then you'll be able to use a 7970 on your 1440p monitor forever...

 

[MrTeal]

Ha, just play CiV and D3 like me, then you'll be able to use a 7970 on your 1440p monitor forever...

Heh, really.
-Has OC'd watercooled 290 CF
-Plays Alpha Centauri

 

[bryanW1995]

Ya, sorry, my bad. I shouldn't have generalized like that. I know a lot of Canadians/Americans do travel the world and work abroad and many of them were born in foreign countries too. His dismissal of a foreign site that has been used widely on our forum for a long time I found at odds with the general consensus of many other gamers who do find that site reputable.

Computerbase even called AMD out on poor texture filtering IQ in their drivers years ago, the same for PCGamesHardware. These sites have a good track record of being more objective than many of the US-based sites that seem to clearly favour advertising money, journalistic review sample privileges, etc. which of course today means a lot more favourable reviews of NV products.

Hey man, I get it, I know a ton of people who have never left Texas (or even San Antonio). I was just surprised to see you post that.

I found it laughable to see that guy questioning Computerbase as a reputable site. They might not be #1, but if not, they're certainly very close to it. I'd certainly rate them above Ananadtech in gpu evaluations, at least based the time frame from x1900xt up to 7970 ghz. Perhaps Anandtech has gotten better in gpu evaluations recently though.

I honestly don't see the need for amd to be that way if they made a gpu that is 10% faster than 980 and cost 200$ less.

that is 10% faster and 200$ less(price is rumored, but so is everything we are talking about ). why would amd need to be tight lipped about a gpu like that?

I wrote that before I realized that fiji was a higher level of performance...I thought that r9 390x WAS fiji...it's nice to see that's not the case.

I think it's more of a deterrent for leaks and what not. I'm honestly not sure how AMD has managed to keep a lid on everything, but I think it's really cool.

I think that we already know the answer. It took me a bit to realize, I just assumed that they were keeping a lid on things b/c they didn't have anything good to say...but... perhaps the GF team isn't as loose-lipped as the TSMC people were? I'm sure that a bunch of them still feel like AMD employees, whereas TSMC has no reason to hold any loyalty to a company like AMD at all. JHH was right not to use GF imho, and, if they can produce cards for them at least as well as TSMC, AMD was also right to make the switch.

Nah, you're not in the minority. People with some weird fear or reason to crap all over this launch are the loudest. Many many people are excited and silently lurking/reading waiting for reviews. Fiji is freaking exciting!

Huh?

I have probably written more doom and gloom on AMD's launch issues than anybody here over the past few days, and I have no issue with them as a company at all. If anything, I want them to succeed because I'm concerned about what lack of competition would do to video card prices. It's just that, based upon my experience over the past 8+ years of buying video cards and following the launches very closely, anybody who is 9 months late to the party never brings the best gift.

It's going to be hard to compare 980/980Ti OC vs. Fiji PRO/XT OC in AT's review because the 980 OC numbers would be from old reviews, using older games on older drivers.

Not TOO old I trust...nah...980 hasn't been out long enough to get the special driver treatment.

if crossfiring, then really should be buying a 980Ti or Fiji

Why? Lots of people get > top single card performance by going with a midrange dual card setup. I wouldn't want to do it, and perhaps you wouldn't, either, but it's a great way to get high performance on that shiny new 4k monitor without breaking the bank.

 

[bryanW1995]

AFAIK nvidia hasn't changed the labeling of the 970. So as far as most consumers are probably concerned, the 970 is still 4GB. gg consumer protection/rights.

Everybody seems to be talking about this "3.5 instead of 4gb" issue with 970. I've been out of the loop for a bit...what gives?

Heh, really.
-Has OC'd watercooled 290 CF
-Plays Alpha Centauri

No Beyond Earth yet? They just announced first expansion, that's about the time that CiV started getting good.

I don't want to derail too much, but you can get the details here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2421793&highlight=gtx+970

Putting this up here to prevent any more derailment.

Seems like a lot of sound and fury to me. The way I read it, they really do have 4gb, just .5gb is much slower memory? NV has done much worse things in the past imho, and, at the end of the day, 970 was still a solid card for the money. If anything, I would blame AMD for not having their refresh out in time...a really solid AMD card in that same segment would have hurt NV a lot more after that than little class-action suit.

 

[exar333]

Everybody seems to be talking about this "3.5 instead of 4gb" issue with 970. I've been out of the loop for a bit...what gives?

I don't want to derail too much, but you can get the details here:

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2421793&highlight=gtx+970

 

[biostud]

I wouldn't buy Fury for 4k. Waiting for 400 series.

400 will just be fiji rebranded, Fury Maxx will be next gen hardware

 

[soccerballtux]

Heh, really.
-Has OC'd watercooled 290 CF
-Plays Alpha Centauri

reduces my input lag for competitive gaming

 

[TaintedSquirrel]

 

[exar333]

400 will just be fiji rebranded, Fury Maxx will be next gen hardware

Don't you mean 'Fury Maxx Extreme Strike Pro XTX'?

 

[DownTheSky]

8gb!

Gddr5


EDIT: I think r9 390 and 390X are improved Hawaii updated to at least GCN 1.2 and on a way better process. We'll see soon enough.

 

[xthetenth]

Don't you mean 'Fury Maxx Extreme Strike Pro XTX'?

Imperator Fury X .

 

[exar333]

8GB!

That 8GB is the R9 390x, just to be clear (NOT Fury).

 

[Elixer]

Everybody seems to be talking about this "3.5 instead of 4gb" issue with 970. I've been out of the loop for a bit...what gives?

In a nutshell, Nvidia wasn't upfront on the way they neutered the 970.
While it does have 4GB, it is actually split into 3.5GB & .5GB and that .5GB has magnitudes slower access than the 3.5GB.

 

[xthetenth]

In a nutshell, Nvidia wasn't upfront on the way they neutered the 970.
While it does have 4GB, it is actually split into 3.5GB & .5GB and that .5GB has magnitudes slower access than the 3.5GB.

Worse, it slows down the access to the rest of the memory.

 

[DiogoDX]

Our system is saying the price is 449 usd. In Stock date is 6/21, but that doesn't necessarily mean that is when it will be released.
Edit: This is Best Buy pricing and I cannot benchmark it, sorry guys.
Edit 2: Also received a r9 390, r7 370, and r7 360. Will post pictures and stuff later.

http://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/co...buy_edition_spotted_in_the_wild_450/?sort=old

Hope that $449 is not the MSRP.

 

[soccerballtux]

Worse, it slows down the access to the rest of the memory.

oh , it does? I thought it was only when you access it. so, game < 3.5GB, you're fine

 

[Despoiler]

Welcome to Anandtech from r/hardware

 

[xthetenth]

oh , it does? I thought it was only when you access it. so, game < 3.5GB, you're fine

This is accurate. What happens is that the card can access the 3.5 or the .5 but not both at once. So that .5 getting used slows down the 3.5.

 

[tg2708]

A very compact card but that tubing really takes something from the aesthetics, looks ugly, flimsy and cheap might I add.

 

[VulgarDisplay]

A very compact card but that tubing really takes something from the aesthetics, looks ugly, flimsy and cheap might I add.

Only a problem for those that are into horrendous gaudy cases with windows and neon lights.

Anyone else will enjoy cramming a 4k monster into a sff case under their TV with excellent noise levels.

 

[DiogoDX]

A very compact card but that tubing really takes something from the aesthetics, looks ugly, flimsy and cheap might I add.

Agree. This other pic with sleeved tubes looks better.

Must be fake but the radiator and fan are the same.