exquisitechar
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Yeah, the full fat chip probably won't be just $200 at launch. That would be amazing, though.199-250$, IMO.
199$ would be perfect, but, you know, 7 nm process...
Yeah, the full fat chip probably won't be just $200 at launch. That would be amazing, though.199-250$, IMO.
199$ would be perfect, but, you know, 7 nm process...
You know, 160 mm2 die, with 4 GDDR6 chips. AMD may decide to once again undercut Nvidia and completely outplay them. Because no way can Nvidia offer anything similar, if Navi 14 would be 199$, considering the closest thing in performance would be GTX 1660 Ti. A GPU that costs 280$.Yeah, the full fat chip probably won't be just $200 at launch. That would be amazing, though.
Actually, yeah, it's possible.You know, 160 mm2 die, with 4 GDDR6 chips. AMD may decide to once again undercut Nvidia and completely outplay them. Because no way can Nvidia offer anything similar, if Navi 14 would be 199$, considering the closest thing in performance would be GTX 1660 Ti. A GPU that costs 280$.
How do you reason this?We are still missing Navi 12... Navi 14 is the chespest Navi, if it really going for $200 minimum we are in trouble. Also i expected Navi 12 to be something like 20 to 30 CU, not the 14.
From AMD's point of view?I think the smallest Navi will be DOA because rx570 would make infinitely more sense any day.
Yes i think. Because last few years AMD has proved they don't know how to make an entry level card. So their previous gen cards at entry level prices always make more sense.From AMD's point of view?
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How do you reason this?
Are you thinking along the lines of Navi 10 >12>14? If so, why? It could be Navi 10>14>12.
Almost certainly they'll want a PCIe-less design, which will be cheaper than this.
You cannot have 6 GB on 128 bit or 256 Bit memory bus.Oh if that 24 CU / 1536 shaders is true that's very nice. 1660 series competitor let's go.
I hope they have versions with more than 4GB. As I understand it, it's possible to get a 128-bit or 256-bit GDDR6 cards to have 6GB (or 12GB) of VRAM at full speed with no shenanigans, we just haven't seen it. 6GB on the 1660 series is a good fit, and I'd like AMD to match. Or do 8GB and one up them, though that's extra $ on that 2GB.
It can be 4 GB. Considering the engineering sample is 4 GB chip.Yea it cannot be 4gb. Days of selling 4gb card for 200 is gone.
You know, 160 mm2 die, with 4 GDDR6 chips. AMD may decide to once again undercut Nvidia and completely outplay them. Because no way can Nvidia offer anything similar, if Navi 14 would be 199$, considering the closest thing in performance would be GTX 1660 Ti. A GPU that costs 280$.
Has there been any word or reasonable speculation on the potential configuration of a big Navi 5800 series card?
Are we looking at 60CUs or 80CUs? I hope against hope that AMD has designed Navi to scale like NV GPUs where each GPC is basically a fully contained GPU and they just slap more of them together to make a more performant part.
Based off AMD data 7nm is 2x the price of 16nm per mm sq.
So whats cheaper 256 mid/upper GDDR5 with larger % of GPU being I/O or 128bit GDDR6 with a smaller % of GPU being I/O?
It’s hard to say much about memory bandwidth utilization if neither is likely to be memory bound.I'm not sure that a 128-bit memory bus would be a viable choice for a GTX 1660 Ti competitor. The TU116 cards (1660/1660 Ti) have a 192-bit bus. Now, it appears that AMD has managed to catch up to Nvidia in memory bandwidth utilization when previously they lagged behind (both Navi 10 and TU106 have the same memory bandwidth and roughly the same performance) but I don't think they've managed to dramatically surpass Nvidia on this front.
Two Words. Memory bandwidth.I'm not sure that a 128-bit memory bus would be a viable choice for a GTX 1660 Ti competitor. The TU116 cards (1660/1660 Ti) have a 192-bit bus. Now, it appears that AMD has managed to catch up to Nvidia in memory bandwidth utilization when previously they lagged behind (both Navi 10 and TU106 have the same memory bandwidth and roughly the same performance) but I don't think they've managed to dramatically surpass Nvidia on this front.
You cannot have 6 GB on 128 bit or 256 Bit memory bus.