"rumor" I just saw on X about Tim Walz

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dank69

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Absolutely none. It's one idiot on X making wild claims without producing any evidence. Why would I bother looking into it? But it will produce much gnashing of teeth and cries for censorship. This has entertainment written all over it. If it turns out to be true, which seems extremely unlikely, it will be a shit show of biblical proportions.
How could it turn out to be true? No way to fast track a trial before the election.
 

Moonbeam

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Does something make you think I'm a spokesman for the repbublician party? Or even a member?
Not me. I see you as a person with conservative values which I can respect who finds people who react to things with passion and rage to be rather socially dangerously reactive, for lack of better words. Where I think we differ is that I find both the outrage and your reaction to it to be par for the course, normal reactions neither of which reacting to them makes any sense.

I have such reactions myself but I can't justify them. I saw long ago that all negative feelings are self created, that this is actually heaven we live in. Attitude is everything. It's simply a light switch that can be turned off for sleepwalking or on for enlightenment.

The only really meaningful goal I can see is how to turn it on. That answer is not out there in the world. It is within as the kingdom of heaven is.

We suffer and what we suffer from in my opinion is a loss of the joy of being we were born with by being made to feel unworthy. But that is only a feeling that is just a lie. We never lost anything, we just believe we did and search for something we can never find since it was never really lost. That is the switch, the seeing that, the transformative realization, the knowledge there is nothing lost and nothing to seek, no reasons to be unhappy with things. The world is made miserable by the miserable and isn't if you aren't.

So I see nothing wrong with reacting to injustice like lying about people if the reaction isn't simply rate and I see nothing wrong with reacting to such reactions that do consist of rage. Humans are equipped genetically to know when injustice exists and correct it where it does. But the first work should be not to be throw fuel on the fire.
 

Greenman

Lifer
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Not me. I see you as a person with conservative values which I can respect who finds people who react to things with passion and rage to be rather socially dangerously reactive, for lack of better words. Where I think we differ is that I find both the outrage and your reaction to it to be par for the course, normal reactions neither of which reacting to them makes any sense.

I have such reactions myself but I can't justify them. I saw long ago that all negative feelings are self created, that this is actually heaven we live in. Attitude is everything. It's simply a light switch that can be turned off for sleepwalking or on for enlightenment.

The only really meaningful goal I can see is how to turn it on. That answer is not out there in the world. It is within as the kingdom of heaven is.

We suffer and what we suffer from in my opinion is a loss of the joy of being we were born with by being made to feel unworthy. But that is only a feeling that is just a lie. We never lost anything, we just believe we did and search for something we can never find since it was never really lost. That is the switch, the seeing that, the transformative realization, the knowledge there is nothing lost and nothing to seek, no reasons to be unhappy with things. The world is made miserable by the miserable and isn't if you aren't.

So I see nothing wrong with reacting to injustice like lying about people if the reaction isn't simply rate and I see nothing wrong with reacting to such reactions that do consist of rage. Humans are equipped genetically to know when injustice exists and correct it where it does. But the first work should be not to be throw fuel on the fire.
I for the most part agree with you. But go back and look at my post that kicked off the mini anger fest, it was neutral. The issue is the same as it always is, I didn't jump on the bandwagon.
 
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Amused

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And no surprise. This account is now posting supposed fully redacted "emails" that are hilariously identical to the ABC affidavit he tried passing off last month. He thinks having dates on something makes it real, even though all of it is easily faked.

So obviously created in a word processor.

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Moonbeam

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I for the most part agree with you. But go back and look at my post that kicked off the mini anger fest, it was neutral. The issue is the same as it always is, I didn't jump on the bandwagon.
You said "This is going to be more dramatic than a Mexican soap opera." But why say that when it's exactly how liberals will react to perceived injustice. It will be taken as indifference to that injustice and critical of those who do despite the fact that it is actually a part of your moral code of ethics causing a distaste for hateful reactions. I think it would be fine to express a distaste for hateful reactions after you acknowledge that it was injustice that produced them. Vile claims were made without definitive proof. Many people see that as evil. To me it's just a product of being mentally ill, full of hate and intending harm. In the past such assholes might be challenged to a dual and people were more careful about opening their vial traps.

Mulla Nasrudin went to a train station to catch a train. While buying a ticket a boy ran buy and knocked off his hat. The Mulla did nothing and people said to him he shouldn't let that brat run wild like that. Nasrudin answered that. not how this is working out. Some time passed and a soldier got in the ticket line and the boy did the same to him. The soldier took his rifle off his shoulder and shot him.
 

Amused

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This fell apart quickly because the guy is a hack.


Plus, he posts videos of himself filling out the message form BUT... It's the form on the Harris-Walz website, NOT the WH website (he hilariously dates each message to dupe his followers)... then claims the receipts from the WH website proves he sent them. BUT, the date on the "receipts" is so obviously photochopped as to be laughably bad.

A number of WR hack influencers have run with it already. Curiously, they're not pushing it much after initially jumping on it.

And another gut buster:

Notice the curser? Bwahahahahaha

 

Amused

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What the fuck is this thread even? OP found some random MAGA account on twitter and thinks its important to talk about the unsubstantiated claims the account makes?

Unfortunately, this Twitter account has gained a lot of traction between this, and his fake "ABC whistleblower affidavit."
 
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Jaskalas

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What the fuck is this thread even? OP found some random MAGA account on twitter and thinks its important to talk about the unsubstantiated claims the account makes?
I'm just sad that we have not generated and distributed a Trump piss tape yet.
 

ch33zw1z

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Absolutely none. It's one idiot on X making wild claims without producing any evidence. Why would I bother looking into it? But it will produce much gnashing of teeth and cries for censorship. This has entertainment written all over it. If it turns out to be true, which seems extremely unlikely, it will be a shit show of biblical proportions.

That’s cool, you voted for a guy that does the same exact thing, wild claims with no evidence.
 

Jaskalas

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BTW, this OP's topic is now landed on my local MAGA's news feed.
They believe it all 100%.

Raving frothing at the mouth spitting hate to Walz and Democrats at large.
 

Muse

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BTW, this OP's topic is now landed on my local MAGA's news feed.
They believe it all 100%.

Raving frothing at the mouth spitting hate to Walz and Democrats at large.
Hell has a special torture chamber for such people.
 
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Jaskalas

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Hell has a special torture chamber for such people.
We DEEPLY overestimate the capacity for people to think for themselves.
That is a methodology of truth seeking that requires extensive training.
Absent that, all the truth we know is merely a belief in the source of a story.

In full knowledge of this, modern communication has unmade us.
Hell is here on earth, in the squalid conditions we make for ourselves. As we form lynch mobs to burn witches.
 

Muse

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We DEEPLY overestimate the capacity for people to think for themselves.
That is a methodology of truth seeking that requires extensive training.
Absent that, all the truth we know is merely a belief in the source of a story.

In full knowledge of this, modern communication has unmade us.
Hell is here on earth, in the squalid conditions we make for ourselves. As we form lynch mobs to burn witches.
Yes, they live in the hell they have created for themselves.
 
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This is why we're fucked. OP, this is worse than linking...fuck that one dipshit that tried making his girlfriend claim Biden raped her and that had the Marine claiming Elizabeth Warren fucked him so hard it gave him scars. And all the other full of shit assholes on the right.
 
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