[rumor] AMD Catalyst Omega Drivers

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KaRLiToS

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Thanks Guskline, couldn't have worded it better than that.


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Keysplayr

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Good idea about buying a R9 290 Keysplayer. I did (twice see below) and am pleasantly surprised. I have a Nvidia GTX780 Classified in my FX8350 rig and 2 GTX 670 FTWs in SLI in my 3770k rig so I feel I have a fair and personal perspective when compairing the Nvidia vs AMD cards. Might consider swapping the 2 670s for a single 970.

I'm excited about the Omega drivers. The slide clearly shows the Omega driver increase being compared to the 13.2 driver. I doubt the increase, if any, will be that great to the latest beta driver 14.11.2?

Like KaRLiToS, I'm more interested in the improvement in crossfire profiles.

I'm overdue for an AMD card. The last one I've owned was a 5870. Any objection going with a used card? Or is it to risky with miner throwbacks?
Upside of buying new is finding a game bundle that is worthwhile. Omega driver really isn't a factor here, I've been thinking of trying out R9 290.
 

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I'm overdue for an AMD card. The last one I've owned was a 5870. Any objection going with a used card? Or is it to risky with miner throwbacks?
Upside of buying new is finding a game bundle that is worthwhile. Omega driver really isn't a factor here, I've been thinking of trying out R9 290.

If you want to try AMD card, get a R9 290, but don't get the reference cooler unless you don't mind about a jet engine.

But if I were you, I would enjoy my GTX 980 cards or add a third one. :thumbsup: (Depends which resolution you are on) Your system is already top notch as it is.
 

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I'm overdue for an AMD card. The last one I've owned was a 5870. Any objection going with a used card? Or is it to risky with miner throwbacks?
Upside of buying new is finding a game bundle that is worthwhile. Omega driver really isn't a factor here, I've been thinking of trying out R9 290.
Buying a miner card is a lottery. I bought one and didn't win the lottery, the fans were vibrating badly with one of the two barely rotating and it has artifacts once in a while, although its working fine most of the time after I replaced the fans.

When are the new drivers supposed to be unveiled anyway?
 
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I'm looking forward to these. I guess you can't satisfy everyone. Maybe people would be happier if they acted more like Nvidia and enabled a crossfire profile for one game, then posted "up to 70% higher performance!" everywhere.
 

KaRLiToS

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Buying a miner card is a lottery. I bought one and didn't win the lottery, the fans were vibrating badly with one of the two barely rotating and it has artifacts once in a while, although its working fine most of the time after I replaced the fans.

When are the new drivers supposed to be unveiled anyway?

Available for download tomorrow.

They better be good.
 

Keysplayr

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If you want to try AMD card, get a R9 290, but don't get the reference cooler unless you don't mind about a jet engine.

But if I were you, I would enjoy my GTX 980 cards or add a third one. :thumbsup: (Depends which resolution you are on) Your system is already top notch as it is.

I know to stay away from the reference cooler, thanks though.
The 980s are powerful and I am enjoying using them and pushing them hard as I can. But there is always room for Jello. My system will undergo an overhaul when the next Intel arch hits. Soon enough. Omegas available yet? Or is it still the 9th?
Oops. Just saw your above post.
 

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I hope this time around the Omega drivers have some improvements to the older cards since I still own a Tahiti card.



I'm overdue for an AMD card. The last one I've owned was a 5870. Any objection going with a used card? Or is it to risky with miner throwbacks?
Upside of buying new is finding a game bundle that is worthwhile. Omega driver really isn't a factor here, I've been thinking of trying out R9 290.


You should have contacted me. I unloaded a few 290s and I had a couple of good ones that had Hynix VRAM. I just gave my last one to my cousin for Christmas.

Wait for a good deal on a Powercolor PCS+ or Sapphire Tri-x to get the best experience. If you buy reference you have to look past the noise, but the reference model is very reliable. ;)
 

tential

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I hope this time around the Omega drivers have some improvements to the older cards since I still own a Tahiti card.

How do you guys use so many different video cards? You have a GTX 970 SLI so why even bother with Tahiti?

Tahiti is my primary card still! Not that I'm really complaining since it's still doing very well for me and does all I ask of it so far. I haven't actually picked up a game the card couldn't handle so I'm good for a bit.
 

Keysplayr

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How do you guys use so many different video cards? You have a GTX 970 SLI so why even bother with Tahiti?

Tahiti is my primary card still! Not that I'm really complaining since it's still doing very well for me and does all I ask of it so far. I haven't actually picked up a game the card couldn't handle so I'm good for a bit.
Some of us like to shuffle around hardware a lot. Even if it means losing a few bucks selling one to try another.
 

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Wait for a good deal on a Powercolor PCS+ or Sapphire Tri-x to get the best experience. If you buy reference you have to look past the noise, but the reference model is very reliable. ;)

just got a sapphire tri-x from a hot deal, and that cooler is legit. big improvement even over the sapphire dual-x. it's a really long card though, had to remove the middle hard drive cage from my R4 to fit it (would probably fit with the cage rotated to be transverse rather than longitudinal, but then it blocks airflow from the fan and i'm not using it anyway).




as to the rest of the holy war, can y'all take it to PMs? i came in here looking for benchmarks and/or release dates, and got big multiquotes of people arguing about slides. i know, if people weren't arguing about slides there'd be no traffic in video cards or CPUs.
 

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Any idea whether AMD will also release complimentary drivers (Chipset etc.) that also are Omega?

Usually they have the drivers like: Catalyst 14.9 & Chipset 14.9, so I wonder, will they have Catalyst Omega & Chipset Omega?
 

Kenmitch

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Some of us like to shuffle around hardware a lot. Even if it means losing a few bucks selling one to try another.

290 deals looked to be dried up on new cards at least for now.

For the full AMD experience best to be a early adopter....Thinking next launch will be with a more optimized driver than in the past.
 

guskline

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Keysplayer: Both of my Sapphire Tri-X 290s were bought used but in excellent shape (neither had even been registered but they are now). I wanted to watercool them and did though it seems a shame to "waste" such a good non-reference cooler.
 

raghu78

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Some of us like to shuffle around hardware a lot. Even if it means losing a few bucks selling one to try another.

for a R9 290 look no further than the tri-x or vapor-x. the best cooler without a doubt. just wait for newegg's price on tri-x to fall to USD 270 and grab it.
 

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What's nice to see is the VSR ability without a third party -- really enhances 1080p and 1440p monitors -- really wonderful for compatibility considering some titles don't play nice with AA as well. Very welcomed!
 

n0x1ous

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Was hoping to see an adaptive vsync (not to be confused with freesync/adaptive sync) added like nvidia has. RadeonPRO is hit and miss for me plus the development is halted since the author joined Raptr.

Can't believe a feature like this hasn't been implemented natively in catalyst.
 

f1sherman

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Was hoping to see an adaptive vsync (not to be confused with freesync/adaptive sync) added like nvidia has. RadeonPRO is hit and miss for me plus the development is halted since the author joined Raptr.

Can't believe a feature like this hasn't been implemented natively in catalyst.

And how about (Adaptive) Vsync or even just FPS limiter that works stutter-free with Mantle

Having to run R9 290 vsync-off in all its 250W glory in BF4 - is not my idea of fun.
Yes, I can downclock/undervolt with Afterburner, but having to do so is sooo unelegant and tiring.
And direct opposite of "just works", plug'n'play, "fire and forget"... you get the idea.
 

Makaveli

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Its like they did it on purpose to reminisce some of the good ol' days.

lol when I saw the thread title I immediately thought this was a necro'd thread from 2004 :p

Certainly does bring back memories.
 

n0x1ous

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And how about (Adaptive) Vsync or even just FPS limiter that works stutter-free with Mantle

Having to run R9 290 vsync-off in all its 250W glory in BF4 - is not my idea of fun.
Yes, I can downclock/undervolt with Afterburner, but having to do so is sooo unelegant and tiring.
And direct opposite of "just works", plug'n'play, "fire and forget"... you get the idea.

Agreed - I use frame limiter built into Frostbite 3 in that particular case but its silly they can't have simple thing like this standard that Nvidia has had for a long time.
 

f1sherman

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Agreed - I use frame limiter built into Frostbite 3 in that particular case but its silly they can't have simple thing like this standard that Nvidia has had for a long time.

Are your frametimes with frame limiter equally monotonous as with Vsync-off and no frame-limiter?
I've seen another guy with CF saying its OK for him. Could be that Frame-pacing is fixing this for multi-gpu...

Because I get equally bad results with mantle+vsync-ON as with mantle+vsync-off+frame limiter.

Mantle + Vsync-OFF + no-frame-limiter is the only way for me in BF4.
Oh and DX.... which gets worse raw results than Mantle but is a more consistent experience (no intermittent spikes whatsoever) and with DX I can Vsync or frame-limit
 
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n0x1ous

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Are your frametimes with frame limiter equally monotonous as with Vsync-off and no frame-limiter?
I've seen another guy with CF saying its OK for him. Could be that Frame-pacing is fixing this for multi-gpu...

Because I get equally bad results with mantle+vsync-ON as with mantle+vsync-off+frame limiter.

Mantle + Vsync + no-frame-limiter is the only way for me in BF4.
Oh and DX.... which gets worse raw results than Mantle but is a more consistent experience (no intermittent spikes whatsoever) and with DX I can Vsync or frame-limit

Not sure - the AMD rig is on a 120hz 1080 screen so Ive been using the frame limiter from the beginning. The FX is a dog in BF4 multiplayer so no results I would give you would be helpful anyway.
 
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