Rummy calls for regime change in NK.

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Mill

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Originally posted by: Phuz
Maybe if the author of that page wasn't Korean... Anyway, the content is highly objectionable (at least some parts).

What specifically?

A majority of it considering it is far from the truth. NK would not win a conflict. Period. Not enough food and not enough technology.
 

Zebo

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NK would not win.

But there also comes a point in war where there are no winners.
 

konichiwa

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I love how Rummy never thinks twice about spending hundreds of billions of dollars going on his regime changing sprees when we are in a huge deficit at home and almost 2/3 of the states are in destitute conditions. Way to go...
 

Phuz

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Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Phuz
Maybe if the author of that page wasn't Korean... Anyway, the content is highly objectionable (at least some parts).

What specifically?

A majority of it considering it is far from the truth. NK would not win a conflict. Period. Not enough food and not enough technology.

I read the entire document from top to bottom. Its mainly military statistics.
Again, what specifically is highly objectionable? His opinion on who would win the war is moot.



 

sMiLeYz

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No one really "gets" it... North Korea is a infinitely more dangerous opponent than Iraq ever was. They have a powerful arsenal, a very large and well trained army, and their leader is freaking crazy.

Theres no doubt we'll win... but at what cost? Especially to the lives of American soldiers, and theres simply no public support for a war on North Korea... unless of course Bush can somehow tie North Korea with Terrorism just like with Iraq.
 

charrison

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Originally posted by: konichiwa
I love how Rummy never thinks twice about spending hundreds of billions of dollars going on his regime changing sprees when we are in a huge deficit at home and almost 2/3 of the states are in destitute conditions. Way to go...

Destitute or have budget problems? I think you are streching the truth a good bit.
 

RigorousT

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Originally posted by: Phuz
I read the entire document from top to bottom. Its mainly military statistics. Again, what specifically is highly objectionable? His opinion on who would win the war is moot.
I kind of liked this quote:

"In September 1996, a North Korean submarine got stranded at Kangrung, South Korea, and its crew abandoned the ship. Eleven of the crew committed suicide and the rest fought to the last man except one who was captured. In June 1998, another submarine got caught in fishing nets at Sokcho and its crew killed themselves. Such is the fighting spirit of North Korean soldiers."
 

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Originally posted by: Phuz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Phuz
Maybe if the author of that page wasn't Korean... Anyway, the content is highly objectionable (at least some parts).

What specifically?

A majority of it considering it is far from the truth. NK would not win a conflict. Period. Not enough food and not enough technology.

I read the entire document from top to bottom. Its mainly military statistics.
Again, what specifically is highly objectionable? His opinion on who would win the war is moot.

Quote from that link:

North Korea's main battle tanks - T-62s - have 155 mm guns and can travel as fast as 60 km per hour. The US main tanks - M1A - have 120 mm guns and cannot travel faster than 55 km per hour. North Korean tanks have skins 700 mm thick and TOW-II is the only anti-tank missile in the US arsenal that can penetrate this armored skin.

Oh this stuff is great. Now I know what the Iraqi Information Minister was doing is his spare time! LOL :D OK, now that I'm not laughing as hard, I can point out that the author can't even get basic facts straight much less show any understanding of military equiptment and tactics.
 

AndrewR

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Originally posted by: cioxx
US will lose any military confrontation with NK.

http://www.kimsoft.com/2003/nk-war-han.htm

Sorry to burst your bubble.

LMAO! Thanks for the laugh -- great stuff.

Oh, wait, you weren't actually serious, were you?
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AbsolutDealage

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Originally posted by: Phuz
Far fetched or not:

When the US plane reached a point about 193 km from the coast of North Korea, two MiG-29 and two MiG-21 fighter planes showed up unexpectedly. The North Korean planes approached within 16 m and signaled the US plane to follow them. The US pilot refused to follow the command and left the scene posthaste. The US plane was tailed by the hostiles for about 22 min but let the US spy plane go. There are two key points to be observed here.

First, the hostile planes waited for the US plane at the Uhrang airbase, located about 200 km from the point of air encounter. They knew that the US plane was coming. The North Korean planes flew 200 km to intercept the US plane. Did the US plane see them coming? If it did, why no evasive action? After intercepting the US plane, the hostile planes dogged it for 22 min. Why no American planes for the rescue? The US crew must have informed the base of the danger they were in, but no action was taken by the base. If Kim Jong Il had given the command, the MiGs would have shot down the US plane and returned to their base before the US could have scrambled war planes.

This is fact, and an unexplainable one as well. Yet another situation that just wasn't read into.. I wonder what the pilots of the Cobra Ball were thinking for that 22 minutes when their protection could have been there in 2.


This is not a show of superiority, this is a couple of fighters going up against an unarmed surveillance craft. This proves absolutely nothing.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Phuz
Originally posted by: Millennium
Originally posted by: Phuz
Maybe if the author of that page wasn't Korean... Anyway, the content is highly objectionable (at least some parts).

What specifically?

A majority of it considering it is far from the truth. NK would not win a conflict. Period. Not enough food and not enough technology.

I read the entire document from top to bottom. Its mainly military statistics.
Again, what specifically is highly objectionable? His opinion on who would win the war is moot.

The whole "article" is nothing but BS propaganda. If you believe it... then sorry.
 

Phuz

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The whole "article" is nothing but BS propaganda. If you believe it... then sorry.

Did I even imply I believed it?
I'll agree with him on one point, that NK would be a terrible mistake to go to war with.
 

Mill

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Originally posted by: Phuz
The whole "article" is nothing but BS propaganda. If you believe it... then sorry.

Did I even imply I believed it?
I'll agree with him on one point, that NK would be a terrible mistake to go to war with.

I totally agree. :D
 

konichiwa

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