Rove Regrets Banner on USS Lincoln

[conjur]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117368,00.html

WASHINGTON ? President Bush's top political adviser said this week he regretted the use of a "Mission Accomplished" banner as a backdrop for the president's landing on an aircraft carrier last May to mark the end of major combat operations in Iraq.

"I wish the banner was not up there," said White House political strategist Karl Rove (search). "I'll acknowledge the fact that it has become one of those convenient symbols."

Rove, speaking at an editorial board meeting with The Columbus Dispatch in Ohio on Thursday, echoed Bush's contention that the phrase referred to the carrier's crew completing their 10-month mission, not the military completing its mission in Iraq.

The banner has been a source of controversy for the Bush administration and has been mocked many times over the failed search for weapons of mass destruction (search) and the continuing violence in Iraq.

Last October, Bush said the White House had nothing to do with the banner; a spokesman later clarified that the ship's crew asked for the sign and the White House staff had it made by a private vendor. It wasn't clear who paid for the sign.

 

[nutxo]

It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

I have to admit, when I saw that banner the first (and only) thing that crossed my mind was that it was referring to the war. It never occurred to me that it was specifically addressing the Lincoln's mission. If you knew right off that it was actually referring to the Lincoln, Nutxo, hat's off to you.
















Oh fuggit. I'll just say what's on my mind, instead of this YABA mumbo-jumbo. (it feels so dirty)

We ain't stupid. We know what the banner was referring to in spite of what we are fed. IMO, of course.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

Enjoy what moment? It was no surprise Baghdad fell that quickly. Saddam's military was woefully lacking training, equipment, morale, etc.

The hard part was what was to come afterward. It's that part that Bush, Sr. and James Baker and Colin Powell shied away from 13 years ago as they knew it would be a very difficult endeavor. And the Bush, Sr. administration was FAR more adept at handling foreign policy than the asshat stooges running the show now.

 

[DealMonkey]

Well, if he landed on the carrier simply to congratulate the troops for a job well-done that would have been one thing. Instead, he landed on the carrier to make a speech, one that announced the end of major combat operations in Iraq. It seems pretty clear (to me at least) what that banner meant.

 

[Wag]

Rhumsfeld already said that the crew put up their banner at their own volition, and he had nothing to do with it. Where's the problem?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Wag
Rhumsfeld already said that the crew put up their banner at their own volition, and he had nothing to do with it. Where's the problem?

"Last October, Bush said the White House had nothing to do with the banner; a spokesman later clarified that the ship's crew asked for the sign and the White House staff had it made by a private vendor. It wasn't clear who paid for the sign."

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

Enjoy what moment? It was no surprise Baghdad fell that quickly. Saddam's military was woefully lacking training, equipment, morale, etc.

The hard part was what was to come afterward. It's that part that Bush, Sr. and James Baker and Colin Powell shied away from 13 years ago as they knew it would be a very difficult endeavor. And the Bush, Sr. administration was FAR more adept at handling foreign policy than the asshat stooges running the show now.

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

Enjoy what moment? It was no surprise Baghdad fell that quickly. Saddam's military was woefully lacking training, equipment, morale, etc.

The hard part was what was to come afterward. It's that part that Bush, Sr. and James Baker and Colin Powell shied away from 13 years ago as they knew it would be a very difficult endeavor. And the Bush, Sr. administration was FAR more adept at handling foreign policy than the asshat stooges running the show now.

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

No one is degrading what the troops did. Regardless of the state of Hussein's military, such a feat is impressive. But it does not mean that the defeat was a surprise.

 

[dahunan]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

Enjoy what moment? It was no surprise Baghdad fell that quickly. Saddam's military was woefully lacking training, equipment, morale, etc.

The hard part was what was to come afterward. It's that part that Bush, Sr. and James Baker and Colin Powell shied away from 13 years ago as they knew it would be a very difficult endeavor. And the Bush, Sr. administration was FAR more adept at handling foreign policy than the asshat stooges running the show now.

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

Yep, now EVEN Karl Rove thinks it was wrong

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Wag
Rhumsfeld already said that the crew put up their banner at their own volition, and he had nothing to do with it. Where's the problem?

"Last October, Bush said the White House had nothing to do with the banner; a spokesman later clarified that the ship's crew asked for the sign and the White House staff had it made by a private vendor. It wasn't clear who paid for the sign."

OMG. Youd prolly cry if bush didnt put the toilet seat down for you. Ya think Bush knows every detail of everything that takes place. They made a correction.

Well, if he landed on the carrier simply to congratulate the troops for a job well-done that would have been one thing. Instead, he landed on the carrier to make a speech, one that announced the end of major combat operations in Iraq. It seems pretty clear (to me at least) what that banner meant.

ASSumption?

Enjoy what moment? It was no surprise Baghdad fell that quickly. Saddam's military was woefully lacking training, equipment, morale, etc.

When was the last time you took part in a successful military operation?

 

[jahawkin]

Originally posted by: etech


Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

If it really was about letting the military guys (aboard the Lincoln) enjoy their moment, why was the ship delayed a day?? Why did they have to turn the ship around so the light would be right??

 

[Siddhartha]

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: etech


Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

If it really was about letting the military guys (aboard the Lincoln) enjoy their moment, why was the ship delayed a day?? Why did they have to turn the ship around so the light would be right??

It was a really expensive photo-op for Bush.

 

[0roo0roo]

its easy to say "bring it on" when you've never put your own ass on the line

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: etech


Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

If it really was about letting the military guys (aboard the Lincoln) enjoy their moment, why was the ship delayed a day?? Why did they have to turn the ship around so the light would be right??

It was a really expensive photo-op for Bush.

Carriers literally change course whenever the wind changes, its no big deal. If you guys don't think it's a big deal for the pres to come aboard I dont know what to say. Im sure a lot of those people were thrilled.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: etech


Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

If it really was about letting the military guys (aboard the Lincoln) enjoy their moment, why was the ship delayed a day?? Why did they have to turn the ship around so the light would be right??

It was a really expensive photo-op for Bush.

Carriers literally change course whenever the wind changes, its no big deal. If you guys don't think it's a big deal for the pres to come aboard I dont know what to say. Im sure a lot of those people were thrilled.

If that were the case why didn't the white house just come out and say that, instead of saying that the carriers course would not be changed. Why not let it into port and hold the soldiers on the dock instead of keeping it out in sea just so Bush could take a fighter out there? And why take a fighter when the ship was close enough for a helicopter?

It was a glorified photo-op. Bush could have easily visited the ship and gave the troops the same thanks without the fighter, without delaying their arrival, and most importantly without lying about it.

 

[Red Dawn]

If Bush would have never used the Lincoln as a Political Photo Op then the sign wouldn't have raised any controversy.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: Wag
Rhumsfeld already said that the crew put up their banner at their own volition, and he had nothing to do with it. Where's the problem?

"Last October, Bush said the White House had nothing to do with the banner; a spokesman later clarified that the ship's crew asked for the sign and the White House staff had it made by a private vendor. It wasn't clear who paid for the sign."

OMG. Youd prolly cry if bush didnt put the toilet seat down for you. Ya think Bush knows every detail of everything that takes place. They made a correction.

I don't think bush knows any details of what is taking place.

 

[chess9]

Sheezh, I'm feeling so sorry for Rove....

-Robert

 

[smashp]

The Sign BLew up in their Face.


It should have just Said.... "Welcome Home" or something simular

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: SViscusi

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth

Originally posted by: jahawkin

Originally posted by: etech


Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

If it really was about letting the military guys (aboard the Lincoln) enjoy their moment, why was the ship delayed a day?? Why did they have to turn the ship around so the light would be right??

It was a really expensive photo-op for Bush.

Carriers literally change course whenever the wind changes, its no big deal. If you guys don't think it's a big deal for the pres to come aboard I dont know what to say. Im sure a lot of those people were thrilled.

If that were the case why didn't the white house just come out and say that, instead of saying that the carriers course would not be changed. Why not let it into port and hold the soldiers on the dock instead of keeping it out in sea just so Bush could take a fighter out there? And why take a fighter when the ship was close enough for a helicopter?

It was a glorified photo-op. Bush could have easily visited the ship and gave the troops the same thanks without the fighter, without delaying their arrival, and most importantly without lying about it.

He didn't take a fighter to the ship.

Next

 

[Strk]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

We did let the military enjoy their moment. However, since then there have been over 500 American deaths, over 100 non-American coalition forces dead, and even more wounded.

Call me crazy, but the "moment" to play dress-up has passed.

 

[etech]

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

We did let the military enjoy their moment. However, since then there have been over 500 American deaths, over 100 non-American coalition forces dead, and even more wounded.

Call me crazy, but the "moment" to play dress-up has passed.

Yes that moment has passed. Will you please tell the liberals that are trying to take that memory/moment away from the sailors that information. All they seem to want to do is distort it into something it wasn't.

 

[Spencer278]

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: Strk

Originally posted by: etech

Originally posted by: nutxo
It's a shame that our guys in the military cant even take pride in thier accomplishments without the whackos making a mountain out of a molehill :disgust:

Yep, even here they won't let the military guys enjoy their moment.

It's a shame.

We did let the military enjoy their moment. However, since then there have been over 500 American deaths, over 100 non-American coalition forces dead, and even more wounded.

Call me crazy, but the "moment" to play dress-up has passed.

Yes that moment has passed. Will you please tell the liberals that are trying to take that memory/moment away from the sailors that information. All they seem to want to do is distort it into something it wasn't.

Don't blame the liberals for taking away the memory of bush's victory dance. Blame the iraqis for fighting.